Questions about the term "BELLY"

Bill, I now wish I had the foresight to have undertaken such a project. I just learned from the guys I worked with, the clinics, etc. and added my own stuff as I went along. Congratulations, sincerely, for a job well done.

JC

Coach,
I believe that Bill will tell you that the word "option" should never be used in conjunction with "predertermined". It has to be one or the other. If it is predertermined, then there is no option to it, and vice versa. The second part of your question, is if it isn't it sure is mighty close with the excception that we don't banana path the FB to the outside leg of the tackle in the OSV, we just go directly to it and hope his path does not get bubbled in any way.

Coach Easton

Coach John,
Can't agree with you on this one, coach. If it is predertermined to the FB, then their is no option left for the QB, period. He gives it to the FB. He does not have the option of keeping or giving, he must give it or else it is no longer a predertermined play, it then in reality is an option. It's not just semantics here, coach, it is just the facts of the matter. The one thing I do agree with you in this post is the fact that a lot of coaches use the two terms collectively (synonymously) and that is not correct, imo. An example of my thinking would be with the terms reduction and eagleing. How many coaches do you hear say "oh, their eagling down on the frontside" when the proper term for frontside reduction is called "reducing"? On the backside they eagle, on the front side they reduce. When reduction on the frontside occurs simutaneously with eagleing on the backside, the proper term to describe that action becomes "double eagle". The only reason I'm trying to help in this area, coach, is the fact that I know you are a new coach and I want you to learn the right way, not just my way, but the right way so that when you get your own staff one day you will be on top of this issue.

Coach Easton

Coach Easton,

I understand exactly what you are saying. I guess I could have worded my last post better. What I am saying is that if the QB is instructed to pull the ball on the fake to the FB then he still has the option of pitching it to his TB, doesn't he? Since QB still has the opton of keeping or pitching wouldnt this now be considered an option play? Doesnt the play now just become a double option between QB and TB?

Oneback, Thanks for yet another detailed explanatoin.

About predetermined and option. This is not my idea, as I love the true option idea, but Roger Freeborn (of BFS, Equalizer offense and I am sure many more fames) uses a FB dive as his base play and as he says it isn't wether the offense knows it is a true option, but does the defense think it is. Not my ascertion, but many spread option teams use this idea on their inside zone dives with the dive back.
Greg B

I've nothing to add...except a hearty THANK YOU to bill, Coach E, and the rest of you guys for teaching and mentoring me with knowledge I'd have never thought possible.....big THANK YOU to Coach Campbell for this site...it's a true gold mine!

Hey Greg, I owe you a phone call concerning the Metro youth league. Drop me a line to mikewms@mac.com with your number and I'll ring you up.