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Oneback
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Your favorite play Apr 9, 2005 13:03:52 GMT

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Post by Oneback on Apr 9, 2005 13:03:52 GMT

Our best ALL PURPOSE play is the simple HITCH pass at 6 yds. I has all the advantages of a TOSS SWEEP, SHORT PASS (HITCH), INTERMEDIATE PASS (converted FADE 18 -20 yds deep vs Cover 2), and A DEEP UP route (take it to the "house" vs press man with no deep help).

Bill Mountjoy

TIGER ONE Senior Member Posts: 6,423	Your favorite play Apr 9, 2005 15:56:55 GMT Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top Post by TIGER ONE on Apr 9, 2005 15:56:55 GMT Bill, I replaced the sweep with the hitch as a much more expedient way of getting the ball on the perimeter! JC
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Oneback Senior Member EMAIL: billmountjoy@yahoo.com Posts: 6,225	Your favorite play Apr 9, 2005 18:03:49 GMT Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top Post by Oneback on Apr 9, 2005 18:03:49 GMT JC - it is FOUR plays in one! PROPERLY TIMED - it is like "stealing" vs "free access" Corners!
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Your favorite play Apr 9, 2005 18:42:26 GMT

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Post by TIGER ONE on Apr 9, 2005 18:42:26 GMT

Bill- I agree with that 100%!!! We repped it and repped it today! Man, those twins I signed mid week put on a clinic in precise routes and pass catching skills. It is like looking at two peas in a pod, they are going to contribute big!!! I don't know if I told you or not, but I have finally got my QB. He is 6'3 235 and has a cannon. HIs upper body strength, Bill, is nothing short of amazing. In the weight room the other night, he repped 225 35 times BACK TO BACK WITH ABOUT A 5 MINUTE BREAK BETWEEN SETS. He then took a breather for about 30 minutes, proceeded to put 315 on and repped it 5 times. With a minute or so break proceeded to rep it another 5 times. I'm talking full extension, no cheating , flat backed and the whole 9 yards!!! He played safety at Clemson. I have worked with him for awhile now and he is coming around beautifully, decison making is getting better along with nice improvement in the mechanics area as well. I'm tickled pink. You should have seen him hooking up with the twins, I'm starting to get a little excited now.

JC

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calande Member Posts: 53	Your favorite play Apr 11, 2005 10:01:10 GMT Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top Post by calande on Apr 11, 2005 10:01:10 GMT you can see my diagram of "ray 26 power" and even video of it on www.doublewingonline.com

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Your favorite play Apr 11, 2005 10:27:27 GMT

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Post by Knights of 3 on Apr 11, 2005 10:27:27 GMT

Bill,

You said that the hitch converts to:

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INTERMEDIATE PASS (converted FADE 18 -20 yds deep vs Cover 2), and A DEEP UP route (take it to the "house" vs press man with no deep help).

I understand the fade conversion. The QB drop remains the same, and the hitch is converted to a fade vs rolled up corner. Hit it in the "window" with lower trajectory. When you say it also can be a deep up, what do you mean by this? Do you change the QB's drop to 5 step, or are you still throwing a 3-step drop fade but with more air under it?

(P.S. I love the hitch as well. Coverdale/Robinson say the quick out has better run after catch potential, but I think a hitch caught right as you break with a spin to the sideline is a first down every time! Combined with the fact that it is an easy throw for the QB, this is a very most dependable play!)
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Oneback
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Your favorite play Apr 11, 2005 11:42:12 GMT

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Post by Oneback on Apr 11, 2005 11:42:12 GMT

Danny - some coaches go to 5 steps on the deep up, but since our protection for 3 & 5 is ROUGHLY the same - we just have QB sit on back foot on step 3 until he releases the ball WITH TRAJECTORY to WR on "UP". Ball may be caught as deep as 35-40 yds. as opposed to 18-20 on fade, BUT the trajectory times it out that (even though the ball is thrown 15-20 yds deeper) it can be released at ROUGHLY within same time frame (18-20 drilled in as opposed to 35-40 with air under the ball).

QB will release it about the same time he would a fade, becuase with press B&R with no deep help - the Corner is up tight almost as much as Cover Two "roll corners".

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Your favorite play May 29, 2005 20:05:58 GMT

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Post by phantom53 on May 29, 2005 20:05:58 GMT

Our favorite play is power. We'll run it every week, regardless of the defense or opposition. We're not stupid. We're going to have things to counter the defense if they become unsound to stop power. We're not overwhelmingly huge but we feel that belief, reps, and technique will allow us to run the play successfully against anybody.

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Your favorite play May 30, 2005 10:15:26 GMT

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Post by TIGER ONE on May 30, 2005 10:15:26 GMT

Bill,

I teach our QB's when throwing the deep go that he is to release the ball as soon as the DB comes abreast and opens his hips out, or never later than when our receiver is 20 yds. down field. We throw it ALWAYS on the 3 step drop if in a conventional passing formation, if in our 3 x 2 spread he is already back at 6-7 yds and has a full second more to throw the ball! He is ALWAYS MOVING AND 90% OF THE TIME THROWING ON THE RUN WITHOUT PULLING UP TO PLANT.

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Oneback Senior Member EMAIL: billmountjoy@yahoo.com Posts: 6,225	Your favorite play May 30, 2005 17:25:39 GMT Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top Post by Oneback on May 30, 2005 17:25:39 GMT J.C. - good thinking. WISH you could be at our coaching get together on July 15 & 16 to talk on your offense! Several coaches from the site will be there!
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Your favorite play May 30, 2005 17:40:33 GMT

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Post by TIGER ONE on May 30, 2005 17:40:33 GMT

Bill,

I sincerely wish I could be there also!!! But, as we open the following weekend in North Carolina against a team that made it to the semi's last year, I will be up to my butt as you well know. Our second game the following week is also in North Carolina against a team that made it to the Championship game in 2003 and the semi's last year. To have to open on the road with two consecutive games against the two best teams in our division (what idiot scheduled this?) is a pretty tough order for a team that went 0-9-1 last year! Oh well, we will discover really quick what we are as a team. Have a very tough opponent this weekend in our second preseason, will let you know how it turns out. we will be working extra hard to cover this loss of days for the hoiday from our normal routine. Sincere thanks for the invitation anyways!

JC

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newguy Senior Member Posts: 249	Your favorite play May 31, 2005 7:55:44 GMT Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top Post by newguy on May 31, 2005 7:55:44 GMT Favorite pass is run and shoot Choice route, favorite run is rocket toss

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Your favorite play May 31, 2005 15:41:39 GMT

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Post by joboo59 on May 31, 2005 15:41:39 GMT

Favorite Run...if it ends with option, chances are I like it! Big, big fan of the load however,

Favorite Pass...something quick and deep. I don't like to put too much stress on my big hogs up front and if its only for five yards might as well just run the ball. Three things can happen when you throw the ball and only one is any good.

Favorite Special teams play (other than PAT).... I love the "Muddle Huddle" Kickoff, something about ten guys running into one unexpecting, possibly retreating opponent tickles me!

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Coach Nicholson Senior Member Posts: 780	Your favorite play Jun 2, 2005 13:26:20 GMT Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top Post by Coach Nicholson on Jun 2, 2005 13:26:20 GMT If I can have only 1 play give me the midline option out of a pro I.
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groundchuck Senior Member Posts: 472	Your favorite play Jun 2, 2005 20:24:24 GMT Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top Post by groundchuck on Jun 2, 2005 20:24:24 GMT Favorite run--midline or anything ending in option Favorite Pass--Waggle Pass off our power I like midline from anything, but in the pro I, I feel I can better predict where opponents will align
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HawkCoach Junior Member Posts: 13	Your favorite play Jun 4, 2005 20:07:06 GMT Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top Post by HawkCoach on Jun 4, 2005 20:07:06 GMT Favorite run---26/27 Truck Favorite pass---5 yard out/10 yard curl combo

rhair Member Posts: 28	Your favorite play Jul 7, 2005 20:29:18 GMT Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top Post by rhair on Jul 7, 2005 20:29:18 GMT My favorite run would be the Sprint Draw out of the I. Favorite pass would be 22 Z-In out of Strong Off-Set I.
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Your favorite play Jul 11, 2005 16:42:54 GMT

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Post by jbutler on Jul 11, 2005 16:42:54 GMT

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Originally posted by: groundchuck
bpolson--Are you in MN? I am also here in the land of 10K lakes. And we also run Belly as our base. We like to run it with 2 TEs for the same reasons. We simply could not get enough blocking at the POA without 2TEs when running weak. Where do you coach?

What is the FB & QB's footwork on the Belly give to the FB? Thanks!

sparkey

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Your favorite play Jul 11, 2005 20:21:07 GMT

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Post by groundchuck on Jul 11, 2005 20:21:07 GMT

Going to the right:

FB: Lead step stay low and run through the hole. Not too complicated.

QB: Open to the playside and get the backfoot (right foot) deep to 6:00. Reach and ride with the FB allowing your hips to follow the FB. Ride the FB into the hole and push off with your front foot reaching the ball back to the 2nd back.

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Your favorite play Aug 30, 2005 4:54:44 GMT

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Post by TedSeay on Aug 30, 2005 4:54:44 GMT

Coach: Favorite run: 132 CT, the classic Wing-T tackle trap from belly action. To my mind, the single best misdirection play with the QB under center.

(Best misdirection series, QB under center -- the Fly; best misdirection anywhere -- the full spin from the single wing.)

Favorite pass: The Go route package from the Mouse Davis R&S.

Favorite run-action pass: The optional running pass from the single wing.

Favorite pass-action run: The Statue of Liberty from Hamp Pool's old Fly-T offense.

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comet Member Posts: 154	Your favorite play Aug 30, 2005 7:56:10 GMT Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top Post by comet on Aug 30, 2005 7:56:10 GMT Coach Mountjoy, You said earlier that the redskins counter to the weak side is you favorite run. I assume you like it against a shade and a 5 to that side. Joe Bugel said this play draws up good, but he doesn't like it. Why the difference in opinion?
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Your favorite play Aug 30, 2005 8:22:04 GMT

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Post by Oneback on Aug 30, 2005 8:22:04 GMT

It can be run MANY ways (they run it ABOUT 7 ways - not sure WHICH of the 7 ways you are talking about). You are PROBABLY alluding to a DE that SPILLS the play - but there are MANY ways they have to handle that! I GOT the series personally from Bugel! Saw them run it well in practice last week, also vs the Steelers Friday night (in person). It looked GOOD!

In the last game of last season - Ladell Betts broke it for 39 yards in the win over playoff-bound Vikings!

A FEW (not all) of the 7 ways to run it aren't great vs a FEW (not all) defensive adjustments, but you have to block it the proper way (& use the proper motion or formation to remove weak run force). This is true of ALL plays in the COUNTER/POWER, AND ZONE series - you must have the proper blocking call and/or use a motion/formation that enhances the play. That is the whole THEORY of the offense!

If you eliminate the OLB that the DE spills the play TO - they can't use a "spill" technique! If you remove the secondary run force from the "well" weak - they are EXTREMELY VULNERABLE. It is GREAT vs all "Nickle packages", ETC-ETC-ETC!

PS: If you know Joe Bugel - you are familiar with his famous quote: IF YOU LOVE A F-----G PLAY - DON"T LET THEM RUN YOU OUT OF IT"!!!!! THUS THE ADJUSTMENTS TO KEEP IT ALIVE (that is why he has so many WAYS to run it)!

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