Attacking a 5-3

hitches, slants, pop passes, etc. oh yeah, swing passes and bubble screens work reall ywell in addition to what oneback said.

YES ON THE 4 VERTICALS VS.COVER #3 AND YOU SHOULD SEE THEM SCRAMBLE WHEN I SEND 5 OUT OF MY 3 X 2 SPREAD PACKAGE! OFF TACKLE HAS ALWAYS BEEN THE NUMBER ONE SPOT TO ATTACK AND WILL REMAIN THAT WAY IN MY BOOK.

JC

Oh almost forgot, we run a really cool bootleg pass when facing a strong run defense 5-3 too.

Enlighten us on the boot, Saintrad!!!

Ok i will try to explain it, much easier to see it than explain it. The play is called: Ted @ 8/9 (depends on which way called)


1--------------------TGCGT----------------------5
-----------2------------Q--------------4
-------------------------3


Ok, 3 back is tight. WE run a hard dive action at the 3 hole, faking dive then have 3 back block man over LG. OL fire blocks selling the dive.
QB fakes hand off, nuts the ball, rolls as getting depth to the right of the formation.
LG pulls and gains depth after passing the center to lead block for QB. As the LG gets to the end of the LOS he gains a little depth and sets up no closer than 4 yards from original RT position, 1 yd off LOS, and turned back towards OL to eliminate pursuit.
5 runs a 15 yard comeback (to 12 yds) heading for sideline.
4 runs a post-flag route at 12 yds. going over the top of the RCB.
1 runs a 5 step crossing route staying under control as he crosses midfield trying not to pull too many defenders across the field with him onto the play.
2 has an option of running a post (if MOF open) or a post-dig route (if MOF closed)
QB reads RCB for depth and hits either comeback (usually hits this since it opens up first), post-flag, then post/dig, and then crossing route. QB attacks LOS with passing look at all times and reads on the run.

NOTE the throwback screen on this pass play is a killer, especially after having run the actual bootleg 4 or 5 times. We also can call front, or back, switch and the WR on that side switch routes. We can call also call Ted @8 give, where we actually give the ball to the 3 back and carry out the bootleg. We can also call Ted@8 Keep and the QB carries out the bootleg, but actually runs the ball.

Oneback,

You have not seen anyone run on these teams because they obviously have great PLAYERS. IMO, great PLAYERS can take the X's and O's out of the game. The strength of the 5-3 is in the off-tackle and perimeter defense. The nose and Mike against 2 G's and and a C gives the offense the advantage - on the chalkboard!. But the orignal post did not mention pinching or an Eagle look. If that were the question, I would have agreed with everything you just said above. I think the Eagle front is the most effective defensive front out there!
If I was prepping against a 5-3 with read DT's playing 4 tech's, I would buck, crossbuck, trap, midline, etc until they switched out or brought their tackles inside to an Eagle look. Then I would hit the perimeter and off-tacle.

Coach Easton, what do you think?

In my opinion, off tackle is the achilles heel of ANY defense that aligns according to Hoyle. Now I stop the bleeding in my defenses by moving the LB's around, as most people do, but to try and run inside on a 5-3 with just average HS athletes in the key spots isn't a good choice, coach, but that is just my opinion as always. However, when you are talking to Bill, you are talking to a VERY KNOWLEDGEABLE OL COACH and Coach Pierson played for him as well. They know what they are talking about. However, in the end you have to go with what you know and are comfortable with, agreed?

Coach Easton

GCTIGER57,

Thats all any of us bring to the table, coach, is our own personal experience and our point of view. We all understand there are numerous ways to get a task done on the field, we all just share what works for us. New or old, it don't make a dab of difference, just jump right in with your opinion any time you choose! Thats what makes our board the best, we don't take offense, normally, over another man's opinion. We have some very well experienced, knowledgeable , coaches here on the forum who will do anything they possibly can to help the other coaches. As for "knowing it all" I want to meet and shake that man's hand, agreed? Ha HA

Coach Easton

Your sure right about that, coach, and they hung HIM on a tree before he went "back upstairs"!!!

Coach Easton

Oneback, I dont think we are disgreeing here. i think you are misinterpreting what i am saying. I stated that I would go with wider splits and hit the middle agains 4 techs playing 2 gap. Against the eagle look, i totally agree with you. I hate the Eagle front and personally think it is the most difficult front for me to face with my offense - as i run trap, midline, belly and the eagle shade kills me! Against a 40, I can run away from that 3-tech and have success with my offense.

In my league with my competition, and up on the whiteboard, it is MY opinion that i can have success between the DT's against the 5-3. The original poster can take it or leave it.


TIGER ONE -

Please check your personal email if you read this

GCTIGER & BILLATLAS - Yes - you do have a shot if you can get a "4" to split out with you. Vs 3's & pinching 4I's, IT'S A BITCH!!!!!

According to Hoyle = according to established rules.

The book of Hoyle is the rules for card games and the expression is from my generation. I intended it to be taken in that context meaning that some teams just line up any old way (not according to the established rules or correct techniques).

Coach Easton

Thats called a "solid" front and the ONLY way you can block it is MAN that I know of.

Coach Easton