Installing Today’s Hybrid Pistol Offense Run & Pass from Top to Bottom
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hey coaches any help would be appreciated here. i'm trying to break in 2 new centers, and let them battle it out in the spring. we are currently looking at going spread and being in gun the majority of the time. i'm looking for some pointers on coaching a shotgun center (do you giving an aiming point, what is it?....) any information or drills you're willing to share that you think would help it me make this as automatic and reliable as a snap under center would be appreciated.
thanks
Post by Coach Campbell on Dec 27, 2005 16:56:19 GMT
aiming point is the belt buckle of the quarterback. We are 90% gun and I ask our center to get his but lower than parallel so that the ball doesn't rise on the snap. Center will snap and hold the ball as if he is thrown it with his fingers around the kaces. Coach CAmpbell
quote: Originally posted by: Coach Campbell aiming point is the belt buckle of the quarterback. We are 90% gun and I ask our center to get his but lower than parallel so that the ball doesn't rise on the snap. Center will snap and hold the ball as if he is thrown it with his fingers around the kaces. Coach CAmpbell
Is it a dead snap or does he spiral the ball? Shift wrist or does he snap the wrist? Thanks!
What I have taught my centers in the past is to drive their elbow into the "tear drop" muscle of the knee and throw the ball like a pass. The elbow in the knee keeps the ball from going high.
You want the ball in a good tight spiral! I run a 3x2 spread with the QBat 6-8 yds deep in an empty gun.
I teach splitting the hands of the QB who has his hands in front of his numbers, as an aiming point. THIS IS ABSOLUTELY CRUCIAL TO YOUR SUCCESS ( THE SNAP) BECAUSE AN ERRANT SNAP CAN GET YOU IN BIG TROUBLE REAL QUICK! On my team the centrs get as much attention as the QB's! Make certain they go through their warmup progressioin well in preparation for any practice, scrimmage or game!
Coach Easton
J.C. EASTON<BR>HEAD COACH<BR>GA TIGERS FOOTBALL<BR>PROFESSIONAL MINOR LEAGUE
You want the ball in a good tight spiral! I run a 3x2 spread with the QBat 6-8 yds deep in an empty gun.
I teach splitting the hands of the QB who has his hands in front of his numbers, as an aiming point. THIS IS ABSOLUTELY CRUCIAL TO YOUR SUCCESS ( THE SNAP) BECAUSE AN ERRANT SNAP CAN GET YOU IN BIG TROUBLE REAL QUICK! On my team the centrs get as much attention as the QB's! Make certain they go through their warmup progressioin well in preparation for any practice, scrimmage or game!
Coach Easton
Coach:
What do you recommend for a warm up session?? Thanks!
the most important part about teaching the gun snap is the stance. butt too high, the ball sails, but to low, it wobbles around on the ground. have him squat down so that his quads are parallel to the ground. then simply have him "throw" it back to the quarterback, just like he would if he was facing him. release point is also critical to this. when a center is snapping for a punt, he releases at the knee, but when he is gun snapping, he should release a little lower than at the knee. i would normally say mid-calf, but every center releases the ball differently so whatever gets him a nice spiral right to the chest of the QB is good. although taking an aiming point is good, don't start off by telling him that, i've found that it tends to confuse some guys because they worry too much about it. just tell him to throw it back. if the ball isn't going where you want it, then pick an aiming point just above or just below where you want it, depending on where his initial snaps went.
the drills i use for gun are the same ones i use for deep-snapping. stiff-armed throw standing facing your target. under-hand throw like a softball pitch also facing your target this will help your center get the feel of how the ball will come out, then the backwards toss (face away from your target. raise the ball to eye level and then fire it back releasing at about hip level.) and finally full snaps at about 6-9 yards. these are just basic drills and info to get you started. this works well for me no matter where i try to teach it. hope it helps. if you have any questions coach just hit me up here and i'll help you out any way that i can.
don't worry about what you don't know. if you had to know what you dont' know you would've learned it by now
quote: Originally posted by: CoachPierson What I have taught my centers in the past is to drive their elbow into the "tear drop" muscle of the knee and throw the ball like a pass. The elbow in the knee keeps the ball from going high.
I always have my centers go through a progression of snaps that consists of the ball directly over their heads and spiraled properly to the QB (10 reps) at 15 yds for long snappers, 6-8 yds for gun snapper.
We follow those 10 reps with 10 reps to the side with arms at 90 degree angle from the body.
we finish with 10 reps from the regular snapping position. Just my way, but it has always been sufficient for us.
Coach Easton
J.C. EASTON<BR>HEAD COACH<BR>GA TIGERS FOOTBALL<BR>PROFESSIONAL MINOR LEAGUE
That was just what we called it in college when I first started snapping shotgun (before going to defense) It is the parto f the quad on teh inside of the knee that kind of comes down on the side. That is my best description I am not an anatomy man but a history man.
I believe that the most important aspect of the shotgun snap is not the butt, spiral, or the drive the arm. I feel that the center must never break his wrist as the most important concept and the second is keeping the butt down.
we have a great sophomore center who is undoubtedly, our team mvp, since i think the offense begins and ends with him. knock on wood - he has not had one bad snap all year. early in the summer, i told him he had to practice 100 snaps a day with his little brother, sister, dog, grandma (i didnt care who it was) until he perfected it. we obviously worked with him as well. 30-40 snaps in pre practice during two a days were mandatory.
with all this said, every offensive play we run can be and must be (in my opinion) ran under center as well. i coach at a small school and if i lose my center, i dont have many options. you dont want to be screwed if u practiced all year and then your guy goes down to injury.
After 42 years of on field coaching with the last 20 running an empty gun(long before it was heard of by most) am totally convinced that unless the ball is spiraled back to the QB in.7 of a second or less with velocity and accuracy you will not be very successful from the gun. A floting, rainbow snap will get your QB killed and there will be no timing to the play wahtsoever. As I mentioned above we utilize the hands of the QB who holds them letter high in a position to receive the snap. Butt low is an absolute must as stated above by one of the posters. Coach them up until they can get it there in an expedient manner and ride your stop watch until they can do it 10 out of 10 times, not 9 out of 10 as that one slow one will kill you some night at a crucial point in the ball game. If the ball is not in a tight spiral it is not aerodynamically correct to travel at it's optimal speed. You say that is kind of splitting hairs? The difference between right and wrong is gigantic IMO.
Coach Easton
J.C. EASTON<BR>HEAD COACH<BR>GA TIGERS FOOTBALL<BR>PROFESSIONAL MINOR LEAGUE