Counting Defenders for Option

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Counting Defenders for Option Jan 17, 2006 9:41:58 GMT

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Post by History10 on Jan 17, 2006 9:41:58 GMT

Does anyone use a numbering system when running the option as far as numbering defenders. I know Inside/Outside zone teams use it to count defenders and was wondering if anyone uses it and how you number the defenders, etc. Thanks in advance.

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Counting Defenders for Option Jan 17, 2006 10:03:00 GMT

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Post by kc361 on Jan 17, 2006 10:03:00 GMT

Coach,

There are a lot of ways to do it. Here is our way.

#1 = 1st DL on/outside the PST. He is the dive key (read key) on ISV.
#2 = Next defender stacked/outside of #1. He is the pitch key on ISV and the dive key on OSV.
#3 = Next defender stacked/outside of #2. He is the 'danger' player. We must block him or we are outnumbered. If we don't have a good angle on him, then we must block #1 or #2.

kc

History10 Member Posts: 56	Counting Defenders for Option Jan 17, 2006 10:12:16 GMT Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top Post by History10 on Jan 17, 2006 10:12:16 GMT Do you count defenders such as the Nose guard, Middle LB, etc or just the outside players? Do you count the same way on Inside veer as outside veer?

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Counting Defenders for Option Jan 17, 2006 10:51:22 GMT

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Post by TIGER ONE on Jan 17, 2006 10:51:22 GMT

History 10,

Forget all that counting jazz, is my advice. If you coach a team of average high school linemen you know that teaching them to count ANYTHING takes them to much time. If they know WHO TO BLOCK by his position in front of them, that is what is really important to me. Who cares what number he is? Just a suggestion as always.

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Counting Defenders for Option Jan 17, 2006 10:57:52 GMT

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Post by TIGER ONE on Jan 17, 2006 10:57:52 GMT

KC361,

The rule of thumb for the ISV is always read the first man outside the B hole, not the first man outside the playside tackle. The reason for this is a lot of teams who really know how to defend the ISV, will put a 5 tech on the line, BUT WILL WALK UP A LB IN A TIGHT 40i TECH. NOW, AS HE IS THE FIRST MAN OUTSIDE THE B HOLE, HE BECOMES THE READand not the down lineman who is in a 4 or 5 tech. See my point?

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Counting Defenders for Option Jan 17, 2006 12:07:56 GMT

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Post by kc361 on Jan 17, 2006 12:07:56 GMT

TIGER ONE,

I agree. The 40i is the dive key IF he moves up on the LOS. The next defender stacked or outside him is the pitch key. That is why our counting rule is the 1st DL on or outside the PST. "ON" means within the framework of your body. And, we treat anyone on the LOS as a DL...we do not differentiate between 2-point stance players and 3-point stance players. We found that it is simpler for our kids.

Also, I agree with not making the OL count. We give them blocking rules. Only our QB and HB's (slotbacks) learn how to count.

kc

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Post by History10 on Jan 17, 2006 9:41:58 GMT

Post by kc361 on Jan 17, 2006 10:03:00 GMT

Post by History10 on Jan 17, 2006 10:12:16 GMT

Post by TIGER ONE on Jan 17, 2006 10:51:22 GMT

Post by TIGER ONE on Jan 17, 2006 10:57:52 GMT

Post by kc361 on Jan 17, 2006 12:07:56 GMT

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