Installing Today’s Hybrid Pistol Offense Run & Pass from Top to Bottom
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how do you guys run the option when the defense run a TNT look? TNT being a 0 tech nose and two 3 tech on the guardss with a 3 backer set. 1 stacked on the nose and the other 2 in the bubble over the tackle.
It is very difficult to run midline vs. a 5-3 eagle look (TNT).
This is how we would run veer vs. that look:
PSE- Stalk
PSB- OLB
PT- 3-tech.
PG- 3-tech.
C- MLB
BG- Scoop (NG)
BT- Scoop (backside 3-tech.)
BSB- Veer Path
BSE- Crack
QB- Veer steps
FB- Veer path
If you HAD to run midline vs. the TNT look this is how you would block it:
PSE- Stalk
PSB- Near Safety
PT- OLB
PG- Veer release to MLB
C- Base (NG)
BG- Base (backside 3-tech.)
BT- Base (backside OLB)
BSB- Mid Path
BSE- Crack
QB- Mid Steps
FB- Mid Path
Coach, I hope this helped and I will expand on this further if requested.
Lou Cella
Head Varsity Football Coach
Greater Nanticoke Area High School (PA)
RUN A PLAY ACTION PASS OFF THE ISV ACTION AND FORGET THE OPTION. ONCE YOU HAVE PULLED THEM OUT OF THAT LOOK WITH P/A GO BACK TO THE OPTION. JUST MY WAY.
Coach Easton
J.C. EASTON<BR>HEAD COACH<BR>GA TIGERS FOOTBALL<BR>PROFESSIONAL MINOR LEAGUE
I like inside veer with a seal block by your TE.FB dives up the Guard's butt,O-Guard and o-Tackle double 3-tech to MLB.TE inside releases and blocks LB over the Tackle.QB reads DE for dive/keep.
In the option game, we attack this front one of two ways.
MIDLINE: We triple-wedge the NT with the G's and C (PSG comes off late to the MLB)...we want to push the NT into the MLB; PST turns out on the DE; PSHB (slot) ducks under the PST to the stacked LB; QB reads the 3-technique; QB follows the PSHB into the B-gap on a pull read.
OUTSIDE VEER: The C, BSG have the NT and BSLB; PSG, PST combo the 3-technique to the MLB; PSHB works inside the DE (EMLOS) to the stacked LB; if the LB scrapes, then the HB goes up to the FS; WR blocks the CB; QB reads the EMLOS for the give/pull; QB reads the stacked LB for the keep/pitch.
We have been pretty successful with this plan against ANY defense that covers the C and G's. Again, just our way (not necessarily the best way).
We saw this defense almost every game last season!
We also saw alot of the 3-5, with a zero, two 2 tech's over the guards and two DE's lined up over our slots, with 3 lbs. We ended up running alot of Trap at it with alot of success.
Anyone else see this front much and if so, what worked well for you?
Run outside veer. They cannot stop it. Have the guard cut the threee tech, have the tackle and the tighend track backers to safety. We have absolutely crushed this defense with this play.
After drawing up the outside veer, I couldn't agree more with MG, now a general question for the group. I am adding midline and inside veer to my offense this year (last year mainly belly series) we run a fullhouse backfield. More than likely I will see this type of defense. Do I also need outside veer in the game plan?
I will agree that outside veer is an excellent play to run vs. a TNT look. Also, I agree with Coach Easton in that if you start throwing the ball and exposing the apparent weaknesses and favorable matchups this front provides, they will get out of that front and you will be able to go back and have success running the triple.
Lou Cella
Head Varsity Football Coach
Greater Nanticoke Area High School (PA)
Lou, I was reading your rules on the ISV up above. How do you coach the center to get to the MLB when he is covered? Also, let's say he is a slanting nose and slants playside. Will the center and backside guard kind of exchange responsibilities?
I think the outside veer is a difference maker and if you are going to be an "Option" team it is a necessity. We don't run speed option. It is hard to stop a team that runs midline, inside, and outside veer.
You attack three different gaps. It places defense in different conflicts.
IMHO there is not a better play at the goal line than outside veer.
Midline, ISV and OSV attack the A, B and C gaps with a dive threat.
OSV has been THE difference maker for our success, offensively.
OSV is a great play on the GL.
Glenn, yes, the center and backside guard will exchange responsibilities.
He will snap the ball, rip across the nose, and get to the middle linebacker. This is what Navy and Georgia Southern do vs. a TNT look.
Outside veer is a great goal-line play, but I don't run it at all, b/c it doesn't fit into my offense. I don't like running outside veer unless it is out of split backs. We've discussed this thread on many occassions.
Lou Cella
Head Varsity Football Coach
Greater Nanticoke Area High School (PA)
Coach Cella, as a former split back veer guy myself, outside veer is much different than from the fb spot. It is the play in a split back veer offense. I have had to re-train my thinking about the play when in the I formation or flexbone. If you compare it to the play out of split backs you will not like it. It is not as good a play, but it is still extremely effective and in my opinion still needed. We are now a flexbone team with a tightend slot. Outside veer, and g-belly were the two most consistent yard gainers in our season. The rise of 3-3 stack teams, it is very tough to stop.
MG,
You have brought up just the think I needed to hear. In our area the 3-5 is becomming the newest rage and we are searching for ways to attack it. Could you please explain how you block the g-belly and outside veer that you said gave you some positive yards?
OV- To the tight side have the tightend double down witht he pst to the first backer head up to inside. The guard doubles nose to mike. Looks for run through. PS wing blocks ist inside to fs.
QB reads first man head up or outside teh TE. Against a 3-3-5 this is usually the OLB on the wing.
G-Belly- Wing bloocks first LB inside. TE and PST combo to first backer inside. Guard pulls and kicks out the eol.
Notre Dame, when Lou Holtz was there ran outside veer as a goal-line play out of the I Formation. He made it work. It just doesn't fit into my offense. Who knows? Maybe one day I'll put it back in.
Lou Cella
Head Varsity Football Coach
Greater Nanticoke Area High School (PA)
We run the midline to this look the exact same way.
Run Double Option (fake FB on iv) - release PST up to seal MLB
Crack the fire out of the olb with the PSE and arc on the corner with the playside slot.
pitch off the DE.
I don't understand everybody trying to run midline or ISV or whatever against a look such as this that makes it difficult at best to do so. Why not just run complimentary plays that will force them out of this look? It never has made sense to me to run something just to prove you can. Would love to hear your thought process on this topic. Not looking for arguments, just curious as to what you guys are thinking.
Coach Easton
J.C. EASTON<BR>HEAD COACH<BR>GA TIGERS FOOTBALL<BR>PROFESSIONAL MINOR LEAGUE
quote: Originally posted by: mg Coach Cella, as a former split back veer guy myself, outside veer is much different than from the fb spot. It is the play in a split back veer offense. I have had to re-train my thinking about the play when in the I formation or flexbone. If you compare it to the play out of split backs you will not like it. It is not as good a play, but it is still extremely effective and in my opinion still needed. We are now a flexbone team with a tightend slot. Outside veer, and g-belly were the two most consistent yard gainers in our season. The rise of 3-3 stack teams, it is very tough to stop.
Coach- Why do you think it is so much better out of Split Backs? We LOVE it out of the I but i am lloking for an opinion on what makes it a better Split Backs play.
I don't think IV is good against this look, but midline is pretty good. I would base the nose with the center & let him go whichever way he wants to (let the FB make the cut off of him.) Send both guards to MLB. Cut the BS 3 Tech with the tackle and ps tackle blocks out on the DE. PS slot folds on the ps olb (or you can arc him if he is reading the slot). The bs slot in motion can fold up and block ps olb. QB read the 3 tech - I think it's a pretty good play. My favorite play would either be rocket or double opt. with a crack. Just my thoughts.
bst-cut 3 tech
bsg - scoop nose to mike w/ center possible cut
c- scoop nose to mike w/ BSG possible cut by bsg
psg- take best path to olb
pst - fan on DE
pshb - drop step take inside path olb to safety
bshb- run pitch course
fb - run course aiming inside cheek of psg
qb - ride and decide run option course with bshb
Post by Coach Campbell on May 13, 2006 17:00:29 GMT
vs a double eagled look and if we are talking inside veer and midline we would slot our tight end and break the playside triangle to make the inside veer a good football play. One reason the inside veer becomes a good play to the perimeter is because the defense has over loaded the box. Coach CAmpbell