Installing Today’s Hybrid Pistol Offense Run & Pass from Top to Bottom
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We do run a a midline-dive option. It is our play of choice when the defense does not give us an invert on the open side of Pro or Twins-Open. We basically zone block it, much the same way we block our speed option. The difference is that with the dive fake the LB will not be as likely to fly outside, so we don't have to crack him. The PST uses a technique we got from a Denny Creehan video called "shadow". He zone steps like he is trying to reach the DE. Assuming the DE will fight to keep contain, the tackle releases inside and looks to seal the scraping LB. If the PST can reach the DE (which is quite often when they really start to squeeze tighter and tighter) the QB will simply take it to the next level. If we're able to reach the DE, we can add the crack by the slot back into the equation if the LB is scraping. Now (for us) this is exactly the same as Speed Option because instead of pitching off of the DE, we're pitching off of the OLB/SS.
"You cannot expect greatness unless you sacrifice greatly."
I have used the ride and decide for years and really don't want to change it I think im going to give a short ride a little more then a poke and then just pitch it .
Whatever trips your trigger and you like it, stay with it. I was a QB that was taught the ride, and I coached it for many more after that. 20 years ago, I learned the point method and have never looked back, there is no comparison,IMO, and I wouldn't coach anything else. Just my way as always.
Coach Easton
J.C. EASTON<BR>HEAD COACH<BR>GA TIGERS FOOTBALL<BR>PROFESSIONAL MINOR LEAGUE
Newguy: Since we're not reading it anyway, a simple point will suffice. Personally, I think the FB's path is what gets the LBs attention, not the ride. As for the backside end, we do turnback with our backside tackle just as we would with midline. We can get away not really worrying about the backside LB again, because of the path of the FB. If he's ignoring the FB's path and flying over to get our QB we haven't countered or trapped enough!
"You cannot expect greatness unless you sacrifice greatly."
Tiger: I know you've posted on this before. Does the point method work with a behind the center FB? Also does it work as well with a tighter FB landmark? We like to hit the FB a little inside of the Guard.
As I watch our clips, I'm wondering if the point method will get our QB going quicker. Actually, I don't see us taking an exaggerated ride, but the QB still has to wait for the FB to clear before he can go. Maybe my FB is too deep for his speed?
I call us a hybrid style option team. On the OV we use the point method. I tell the QB to get down the line and point the ball. The FB knows that if the ball is still there when he gets there, it's his. OV is faster than IV for us for that reason. But both the QB and FB are sprinting. On IV, the QB is waiting for the FB...Now if he does keep, as a ball carrier, he's starting almost from a stand still while the defense has a running start. Our QB is our fastest runner. I'd like to maximize his keeps. Will the point method help us?
"You cannot expect greatness unless you sacrifice greatly."
I am of the opinion that the point method is the only way to go for any option you run. First off, as you tell your QB "to get down the line" IMO, is wrong. We do not want him to run down the line PARALLEL EVER. We want him to take a 6 o clock deep step, gather front foot to back and step DOWNHILL on rhythm behind the necessary line surge towards his read man.
To me your REAL PROBLEM seems to be that your FB is way to slow getting to the hole! With his knuckles at 4 yds off the ball behind the QB, the QB should be hard pressed to beat him to the mesh point on ANY option (midline, ISV,OSV) if he is exploding off the ball as he should be! In any option going, the dive back's speed in getting to the hole is PARAMOUNT, as is the QB's. If your QB is having to wait, then you have the wrong guy at FB. This is one time it is not just my opinion, but rather a general consensus. Do everything you can to get his feet faster! No better way, imo, than with faithful working of the dots and jump rope, ladder drills. EVERYTHING IS CONTINGENT UPON HIS GETTING TO AND THRU THE HOLE IN AS EXPEDIENT A MANNER AS IS POSSIBLE.
Coach Easton
J.C. EASTON<BR>HEAD COACH<BR>GA TIGERS FOOTBALL<BR>PROFESSIONAL MINOR LEAGUE
so you basically blocking the backside linebacker with the fullback??? I like it but it changes are zone scheme a little just have to make a new tag for it.....got any suggestion???
Newguy: Yes, as to using the FB on backside LB. By tag, do you mean a name? We call the play "Freeze" option after the Freeze Option at Syracuse. Obviously, we aren't pulling anyone like they do but we are still "constricting" the LBs like they do. Also, I failed to mention, the TB (at least from the "I") freezes until the QB's second step touches the ground. If the TB left on the snap he would be out of pitch relationship. Because the TB freezes on the snap, the defense will not get a directional key if/when you run the counter option (same basic blocking).
For us, we have 3 options off of the midline path of the FB. Follow (double option-give or keep by QB), Freeze (double option-keep or pitch) and Midline which is a true triple option for us. We read the 3 tech and come down and pitch off of the D gap player.
"You cannot expect greatness unless you sacrifice greatly."
well we are double slot by nature of our offense I like the idea of the midline triple option but feel that its a play that you have to committ to if you want to have it in your offense meaning that you need to run it enough to justify having it in and i can basically do the same thing with the midline double and your freeze that i could with the triple plus im not putting my game plan in the hands of a 16 year old kid ....I can live with the double option reads but not the triple....Just how i am and no one will change that...I mean nebraska never ran a triple they were totally predetermined when osborne was there and they did pretty well
Thank you for the interest in the point method. I have posted any number of times on this subject over the last two years. If you will just go into the archives on any option thread, you will find any number of pages where I go into minute detail of the technique. Thanks for your interest.
Coach Easton
J.C. EASTON<BR>HEAD COACH<BR>GA TIGERS FOOTBALL<BR>PROFESSIONAL MINOR LEAGUE
think of a stacked 44 vs. i formation, no te's. (even if it's not a formation you would use, how would you block it if you did)
who do you have your center block, and who does the fb block?
we've had success sending center to bsilb, and with the dive fake, the psilb goes to the dive man. we look at it like this: if the backer is flying outside, then we need to run the dive more (or as stated earlier: we aren't running enough counters and traps)
A bit confused by your use of no TE's in an "I" formation, are they both flexed or what? I have never been one to use those wierd formations. Your approach to blocking the stacked 4-4 appears sound as you describe it.
Coach Easton
J.C. EASTON<BR>HEAD COACH<BR>GA TIGERS FOOTBALL<BR>PROFESSIONAL MINOR LEAGUE
I have had some success @ the JV level with turning the Midline from a double to triple option. The key part that made it so successful was how little we had to change. Our midline triplets are Mike, Marc, and Mitch. Mike is the base play just like coach campbell's 10/11 Jill. With Marc it is a midline with an arc scheme on the force player. WR will stalk the corner, TE or PS WB will arc onto the force player and the PS T will block the LB either the OLB in a 43 or the inside guy in a 44. Read the tackle and the end for dive and pitch. Mitch is the midline with a switch scheme on the perimeter. Now the TE/WB and the WR switch blocking responsibilities. Now the crack on the force player and the kick out on the corner has yielded some big yardage for us and eats up very little teaching time due to the similarity of blocking schemes and the dive/keep/Pitch of the Triple option.