Installing Today’s Hybrid Pistol Offense Run & Pass from Top to Bottom
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I guess I would rather plan on not turning the ball over, BUT I guess I'm going to have to live and learn since I have NO EXPERIENCE ACTUALLY COACHING THE OPTION.
Chewbaka - Unfortunately, a stalemate is all that usually occurs on a combo block for us. I think with the option, I am going to talk with my OL coach about more of a double team and hopefully it will run into the back side LB, as it seems like penetration or even a stalemate can kill the option.
In my experience, a stalemate on a combo on a non-option running play, although not ideal, has been ok for us. As long as we can stay engaged on the los, and get bodies on bodies, we have been successful. We have had some mediocre linemen do very well against bigger / better bodies, but they haven't necessarily moved them off the los every play.
TigerOne and others - Thanks for all your input. Tiger, I know I probably seem like a pain, but ... I have doubled my knowledge of football in the last 4 years on this site. I love debating viewpoints and hearing others' opinions. Thanks a lot.
OLINE - The down hill run takes place by replacing the read and attacking the inside number of the read, this is where the downhill normally takes play. Coach CAmpbell
Can you explain your meaning of "replacing the read" as you have lost me on that one? Thanks for your time in advance, coach. I know our terminiology is different, but can't grasp what you mean here.
My meaning of "following the OL surge downhill" is just that. The OL explodes off the line, keeps their legs driving, drive their assignments back off the ball (downhill) and the QB is right up in there on their butts.
This is a good topic, sure hope we can get other coaches to weigh in on it. I know you love talking offensive line play. I will look forward to your reply, coach.
Coach Easton
J.C. EASTON<BR>HEAD COACH<BR>GA TIGERS FOOTBALL<BR>PROFESSIONAL MINOR LEAGUE
Post by Coach Campbell on Jun 1, 2006 13:34:36 GMT
Replacing the read is the defender you are optioning and visually looking at the inside jersey number of the read. By replacing in the inside jersey number gets the QB running down hill. The inside number sets the path for the QB. The inside jersey number dictates give or keep. I have much video on this as well. Coach CAmpbell
Coach Campbell - I have your video series on installing the I offense - option game, passing game, running game, and overview. They have been very helpful. However, I would like to see more film strictly on your option game if at all possible. Please let me know what I would have to do for this, if it is possible. Thanks.
I think most combos will get movement, at least a little. CUI, if you are having trouble, I suggest treating it more like a true double team. We worked on teaching combo blocking last year and the guys understood it but were slow to perfect it so at times we'd tell them to just blow up the double team which would take them where the LB was anyways.
Here's a Geometry question. If you combo fires out & stalemates at the LOS & the DK naturally takes a step or 2 across the LOS, won't that allow your QB to attack that inside number...even at a slight angle.
I'm really playing devil's advocate here. I like to imagine the worst thing that could happen so that I know how to fix it when it happens on the field.
I too enjoy debating the pros and cons of all the different techniques. That is the reason most of us are on the forum here, IMO. When you can have an intelligent exchange of ideas, questons, etc. and they are conducted with class and not a bunch of malarkey, that is what makes a good board to me. I am in my 3rd year now here at JCFB and because of my health problems can no longer be active on the field coaching after 42 years of having done so. This is my way of keeping my hand in and staying current with the latest methods and techniques, while attempting to help anyone I can become a beter coach. I appreciate you, coach.
Coach Easton
J.C. EASTON<BR>HEAD COACH<BR>GA TIGERS FOOTBALL<BR>PROFESSIONAL MINOR LEAGUE
Appreciate your input, coach. Was curious as to how you treat a midline or ISV read that dictates pull while still in the PSL? Do you just bypass the reaching back to the mesh then, or what?
Coach Easton
J.C. EASTON<BR>HEAD COACH<BR>GA TIGERS FOOTBALL<BR>PROFESSIONAL MINOR LEAGUE
Just want to make sure...PSL meaning Pre Snap Look?
If our QB sees s 4i (IV) he knows before the ball is snapped that it is going to be a pull. We tell him not to worry about making a grade A fake, just flash it to the dive back and move on to the pitch key. There is no "ride"...the QB simply pulls it and gets around the DB.
On the Midline, even if the QB knows its a pull, he makes a longer ride, mainly because of the timing of the play. We lead the TB up into the B gap and the QB has to wait for him to get in front. It also freezes the LBs longer.
"You cannot expect greatness unless you sacrifice greatly."
Thanks for your explanation. Another question, why would you ride the midline LONGER when reading the 3 tech instead of the ISV when your reading a 4i-4-5 tech? Yes, PSL= PRE SNAP READ.
I understand what we call a pee fake or flash fake when we read pull in the PSL, AS YOU STATE, that is sound. I enjoy talking option with you!
Coach Easton
J.C. EASTON<BR>HEAD COACH<BR>GA TIGERS FOOTBALL<BR>PROFESSIONAL MINOR LEAGUE
Thanks for your explanation. Another question, why would you ride the midline LONGER when reading the 3 tech instead of the ISV when your reading a 4i-4-5 tech? Yes, PSL= PRE SNAP READ.
I understand what we call a pee fake or flash fake when we read pull in the PSL, AS YOU STATE, that is sound. I enjoy talking option with you!
Coach Easton
Many teams, us included, lead the Tailback through the B gap as a lead blocker for the QB. You have to give the RB time to get there...
I wouldn't say we ride the midline longer when we're reading the 3 tech than we do the 4 or 5 tech for the IV because we're reading in both of those cases. But when we run midline toward a shaded nose or 2i (and our QB knows its a pull before the ball is snapped) we still have to ride it in order to get the play to time up right. Sometimes our QB gets in a hurry and wants to pull it and get going, which is fine on the IV against the 4i, but he's not waiting on a lead blocker.
This last year we ran midline more from a trips formation than the "I" and its much quicker with our TB lined up as a tight slot. He can pull it faster and go when we're in trips.
We're going to make a switch to split backs for next season, and even though I'm excited about the how I think split backs can/will improve certain aspects of our option (and passing game), I'm worried about whether midline will be as effective. I'm going to get the line marker out tomorrow and get my backfield together and try it. Up to this point, split back midline has been possible in theory only. We'll see how it looks...
"You cannot expect greatness unless you sacrifice greatly."
Post by OutlawJoseyWales on Jun 24, 2006 16:56:05 GMT
Coach, thanks so much for your help these last couple of years.
I'm going right now to look for my copy of a televised game of Lee vs. Raines, back when Corky was at Lee and Raines ran the bone.
My question, and my reason to coming to this post, I have a really fine fullback and a QB that passes well.
But I don't want to run option with him. I know this sound nuts, but I want to run the dive option with this fullback and then let my QB keep with a blocker. Do you have anything in your "big bag of tricks" that might get me going in the right direction, or do I need to forget it.
I run just about anything out of any formation that I can get to work after all these years, so formations don't scare me.
Thanks in advance, David.
David, any time you make the move to the option, you are helping your football team. This is pending that you train your backfield how to execute the dive, keep, and pitch... regardless of the method, if you teach it in a consistent, systematic way, you will improve your program.
Lou Cella
Head Varsity Football Coach
Greater Nanticoke Area High School (PA)
With 25 years or more experience that you have under your belt, you know you have to go with what you feel comfortable with. BUT, in this instance will offer my opinion as you asked me for it. It sounds crazy to me, coach. The dive back (FB) can carry the mail, let him do it. The QB is a good passer, why take the chance of getting him beat up by running the ball as a major part of your scheme? My recommendation, Coach, taking for granted you have the other personnel to make it go, would be to go with a one back set and let the FB run the ball (inside/outside zone, counter, power, etc.) and then whatever formations you like to throw out of, get your passing game ready. Now this is provided the FB is more than just a straight ahead power runner. If he can hit the c gap and turn the corner with speed, then I would work on that aspect of your game. But, if your not going to run the option with him, just to say if he isn't getting the ball to have your QB run all night with a lead blocker, doesn't appeal to me at all. Sorry I couldn't be more supportive! With your experience of the competiton in Florida, I'm sure you will work out something a little more viable. Just my opinion as always. What year is the film from? Who was my QB? Are we playing in the Gator Bowl against Lee? Let me know, will you?
Coach Easton
J.C. EASTON<BR>HEAD COACH<BR>GA TIGERS FOOTBALL<BR>PROFESSIONAL MINOR LEAGUE
Post by Devilsadvocate on Jan 20, 2011 8:14:13 GMT
We are headed back to the bone, meaning our FB will be directly behind the QB. Do you use your point method in that instance? My SBV friends are Point Method guys, and the general consensus supporting their point method is that the dive back hits the hole too fast to adequately create an effective mesh. I am curious if the ride and decide isn't more suited to wishbone since the angle at which the FB is attacking the LOS is different than SBV, subsequently creating a little more time for the mesh to happen. I'd love to hear the "Point Method'ers" thoughts on this.
I aplogize if this has already been covered. I'm new to the site, the search results didn't satisfy my question.