Installing Today’s Hybrid Pistol Offense Run & Pass from Top to Bottom
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Just find it hard to believe Fla. could get away with running the type plays they ran, and beat, what I thought was a sound and very talented Ohio St. team.
They ran dink and dunk passes, a running game that consisted mostly of the 2nd string QB....how in world Ohio St. could not stop that is mind boggling. I am glad I taped it, I will definitely have to go back and watch.
The one thing that jumped out at me as well was the fact that Ohio St. defense was on their "heels" ALL night long. I don't know if the D. Coordinator was truly worried about Fla's speed, and that is why he would not blitz, stunt, etc., but in my estimation, beside the O'line not performing well, the vanilla defense they employed truly hurt their opportunity to win.
Their defense reminded me of when Cincinnati "tried" to defend Indianapolis on Monday Night Football. Sitting in Zone and rushing 4 all night is not what I would do. Ohio St 's LBers were dropping 10 yards back in coverage on the snap. They GAVE them the underneath stuff all night long.
In my opinion, it is a big MISTAKE to sit back and be cautious with speed. Fla was quick but i think you have to meet speed head on with your speed. Dont let guys catch balls and try to catch up with them in space.
Also, why let Fla's good QB sit back there all day long. Cincinnati made the same mistake and let Peyton Manning (arguably the best QB in the league) throw darts all day long to his wr's.
Pressure the QB if he can throw!!!!!!!!! That was really bad.
Following is just my opinion (of course, "hindsight is 20/20"). Hope I don't offend anybody:
OSU TRIED to get by with 5 man protection vs a 6 man rush, & 6 man pro vs a 7 man rush. Even a Heisman Trophy winner couldn't deal with an unblocked defender (too much of this "hot" crap will get you beat). I saw TCU do this to Texas Tech & hold the "Air Raid" to 3 points.
At some point in time - I believe you have to max up & give the QB TIME TO DO HIS JOB (rather than running for his life).
Mark Richt had the right idea when he was OC at FSU (& we used a lot of his stuff). He had 5, 6, 7 & 8 man protections. This wasn't as hard to teach as it sounds, because (other than the 5 man pro) they were all the SAME rules - just adding a blocker as you went from 6 to 7, & 7 to 8.
I believe in the philosophy of Norm Chow (on his National Championship teams at BYU & SO. CAL) in that you should try to get a hat on each rusher & leave no one unblocked.
Here is what the passing game guru, Bill Walsh, said at the 2003 AFCA Convention verbatim):
"There should be a better way to protect the passer than we do. One way is to use the “tight end” plus “H” & “RB” as pass protectors. All three of them would check and then release, but you would have a way to pick up eight rushers.
You have eight blockers. You’d have a way to pick up eight people. You have two receivers working against man-to-man coverage. Then as those people checking and then releasing, they would release on patterns that would be open vs. the zone. So you could deal with the zone with your late releases, you could deal with man-to-man with your two best receiving people, but you can protect the passer. Do I suggest that you do that full time? No. But I’d have the ABILITY to do it.”
excellent post as usual Coach Mountjoy! I hate to second guess coaches because we don't know their game plan; what they practiced; how they practiced it; what their personnel limitations were and what adjustments were made.
However, ( lol) I didn't see, from the perspective of my easy chair, any defensive adjustments by OSU. Florida seemed to run the same passing schemes over and over - Tripps clear out with a Drive / Under and Motion to Quads Bubble package. The few times I saw man, Florida picked and rubbed them. It seemed like a superior game plan by Coach Urban and his staff.
Duke - Norm DESERVES the Cardinals job. It will be a TOUGH ONE for anybody! Bugel thought it was not a good situation.
KR - you are right - we are all open to second guessing in this business. As I have stated on this site probably 100 times - leaving unblocked rushers in the passing game will ultimately get you in trouble (& either get your QB hurt, or CONFUSE your QB). The Heisman Trophy winner was most certainly CONFUSED, to say the least! TWO Florida TD's in the first half were the direct result of an unblocked defender (the first causing an interception, and the other a sack plus fumble recovery).
"Bear" Bryant had a good quote about where to place the credit for winning & losing:
"If anything goes bad, I did it. If anything goes semi-good, we did it.
If anything goes real good, you did it. That's all it takes to get people to win football games."
I am shocked that OSU ran predominantly out of a two deep look for the entire first half and that they failed to properly adjust to UF's motion the entire game. Just so I will not be accused of second guessing, here is what I posted on this site after the UF vs. UGA game:
I had the chance to go to the UF-UGA game last Saturday in Jacksonville. I recomend it to anyone who likes football, beer or pretty girls. If you like all three it is tough to beat
Anyhow, Georgia came out in a 2 deep look and UF was just killing them. UF would send 3-4 guys vertical, one of whom would break off his stem at 12-15 yards and be wide open. They were gaining 17-25 yards on each completion. When Georgia would go man under, the QB would just run. Often, I think UF got a pre-snap read with their motion, but even if they didn't, it is pretty obvious when 3 or 4 underneath defenders turn their backs to run with the vertical routes that they are in man.
After it was 14-0, UGA adjusted and the UF offense did not score again.
My questions:
Is it sound to run cover 2 against a spread team with a running QB?
If so, what is the right way to do it?
If not, what were the UGA coaches thinking?
I now ask, what were the OSU coaches thinking (and did they watch the tape from the UGA game)?
Cover 2 ZONE UNDER is better vs a running QB than Cover 2 MAN UNDER - BECAUSE - in MAN UNDER the undercover frequently ends up turning their back on the QB.
ALSO - If the RB flares wide (vs MAN UNDER) the ILB has to run WITH him - leaving a great running lane for the QB! Cgharley Ward won the Heisman in the mid 90's running an "automatic" QB draw vs man/under teams!
I noticed that UF used a 3-stack I formation a few times on the goal line. I took particular notice because I have been considering this for a 7-8 year old youth team next year, and wondered what people think of the formation in general.
Notice that it was used JUST on the GL. That formation was INVENTED by Tom Nugent at Hopewell HS (Virginia) in the mid 1940's. He also used it (Short Yardage & GL) at VMI & FSU (1950's) and U. of Maryland (1960's).
Two things if you use it full time:
#1 EXPECT 10 in the box;
#2 You have practically NO passing threats!
January 19, 2006
Tom Nugent, Inventor of the I Formation, Succumbs at 92
TALLAHASSEE, Fla. (AP) - Tom Nugent, who was credited with developing the I formation at Virginia Military Institute, died of congestive heart failure Thursday, his family said. He was 92.
A member of the College Football Hall of Fame for his innovations, Nugent was also credited with creating the "typewriter" huddle where players stood in two rows rather than a circle while plays were being called. He was a head coach for 17 years, posting an 89-80-3 record before turning to broadcasting and public relations.
He was 19-18-2 at VMI from 1949-52. During his six years at Florida State in the mid-1950s, he also served as the school's athletic director and coached ESPN college football analyst Lee Corso and actor Burt Reynolds.
"He put FSU on the map in the early years," Reynolds said Thursday. "He was an innovator, who brought a whole new style of football with the I formation. I love him and I'll miss him."
Nugent led Florida State to a 34-28-1 record and two bowl games during his stay between 1953 and 1958 and coached the school's first game against Florida.
In 1958, the Seminoles went 7-4 with a schedule that included four Southeastern Conference opponents. Florida State defeated Tennessee 10-0 at Knoxville.
Nugent took the Seminoles to their first New Year's Day game in 1955 when they were defeated by Texas Western 47-20 at the Sun Bowl. In 1958, Florida State lost to Oklahoma State 15-6 at the Bluegrass Bowl in Louisville as a then-relatively obscure broadcaster named Howard Cosell did the game.
Nugent coached seven seasons at Maryland from 1959 through 1965, posting a 36-34 record.
After coaching, Nugent was a sports broadcaster, spending four years in the late 1960's with ABC at WPLG-TV in Miami. Nugent then did public relations work for several years, including a stint at Florida Institute of Technology in Melbourne in the 1970s.
Nugent was inducted into the halls of fame at Florida State and New York's Ithaca College, where he won 10 letters in baseball, basketball, football and track.
A captain in the Army Air Corps during World War II, Nugent served as a fitness trainer for officers heading overseas, and later as a director of entertainment at a base in Missouri.
A native of Lawrence, Mass., Nugent began his coaching career at the high school level in Virginia before accepting his first college job at VMI in 1949.
Nugent's wife of 61 years, Peg, died in 2002. He is survived by five sons, four daughters, 15 grandchildren and five great grandchildren.
A memorial mass is scheduled at Blessed Sacrament Catholic Church in Tallahassee at 4 p.m. Monday.