Outside Veer difficult?

kARJAW,

EASY AS A,B,C. ESPECIALLY IF YOU HAVE ALREADY INSTALLED THE ISV WITH IT'S DOUBLE READ BY THE QB, AS NOW YOU ARE READING ONLY THE EMOL ON THE CALL SIDE.

AIMING POINT FOR THE DIVE BACK IS OUTSIDE LEG OF THE OT. IF THE EMOL DOES ANYTHING EXCEPT STEP INTO THE C GAP (STRONG SIDE RIP FOR THIS EXAMPLE) IT IS AN AUTOMATIC GIVE. IF IT BECOMES A PULL THE QB IS OFF TO HIS NEXT READ WHICH IS USUALLY THE CB, AS WE ARE GOING TO ARC THE TE TO SS OR OSLB, DEPENDING UPON WHAT DEFENSE YOU ARE LOOKING AT.

Best Drill in my opinion is a simple read drill that incorporates the EMOL stepping into the gap, or feathering or going to pitch. His action, of course is what dictates what decision the QB will make. If he plays HARD, PITCH IT. If he plays SOFT(FEATHERS) GIVE IT. If he GOES TO PITCH, QB cuts it up! These are the ONLY 3 things a DE can do to you, so I always just drilled the backs and the QB to run their paths, make the correct read, then execute whatever assignment is called for as a result of the read.

I always had an assistant or myself stand behind the offense and give a hand signal to the EMOL which of the three you wanted him to do. THEN, JUST REP THE HECK OUT OF IT UNTIL THE QB IS MORE OR LESS JUST REACTING AUTOMATICALLY TO WHAT HE READS WITHOUT HAVING TO THINK ABOUT IT!

YOU SHOULD HAVE NO PROBLEM INSTALLING IT IN 10 MINUTES A DAY WITH YOU WORKING WITH THE BACKS AND QB'S AND YOUR LINE COACH WORKING WITH THE OL ON THEIR ASSIGNMENTS AGAINST THE DIFERENT FRONTS YOU WILL SEE. But, as summer is almost here and school is out, now is a great time to install it without having to worry about time constraints, as I'm sure you know coach. Just my way, but it worked exceedingly well for me for a lot of years.

Coach Easton-TIGER ONE

We only run the OV vs. 5 man fronts. 43 and 44 is difficult unless you can get 1 out of the box.

Jerry,
I have often heard you and other coaches say "never let the defense dictate what you run". So, I must ask, isn't a huge part of succeeding with the option game about taking what the defense gives you? Isn't that what checking to the best option is all about? taking what they give you, attacking the bubble, hitting them where they aint?

I also like the idea of running at the bubble and those particular technnique / option matches.

I can get a defense to give me the look I want with my formation (most of the time). So then I get to run which ever option I want at which ever tech.


Coach TD

Ok, many coaches say "they never let the D dictate what they run". But, then they use audibles and hot reads to get into the best possible scenario. Is that not a complete contradiction? If I have IV called to a 3 tech DT and I flip the play to the 1 tech DT, am I not taking what the D gave me? If my QB makes a hot read and throws to an uncovered slot WR, did he not take what the D gave him?

I understand the concept of using motion and multiple formations to get the D to move where you want them. I also understand the need to be the aggressor and "dictate" the flow/pace of the game. However, audibles are made based on what the D gives you, especially in the option game. I just don't see how anyone could think otherwise.

Good explaination Tiger.

Coach TD

Depending upon the defense, the backside is lots of times the best side to run it to!!!

Coach EastoTIGER ONE

HEY KARJAW,

As with any option going backside, be sure and drill your QB on the "quick pitch" as you don't have that TE up there blocking for you (if your running it from the "I") and the need to get rid of the ball quickly will become readily apparent to him. Just a suggestion as always.

Coach Easton-TIGER ONE

May someone please diagram the ov for me?
Thanks.

Thank you for the quick reply.
May you please describe for me the blocking scheme against odd and even fronts.
Thanks in advance.

Go to any library & get the book "THE GRASS IS GREENER" by Lou Holtz. He has his entire VEER offensive playbook in there (great detail). It is out of print, but ANY library can gewt it for you thru INTERLIBRARY LOAN in just a few days!

I agree with most of these, but since the outside veer is so much further from center than other meshes, the key is timing. The QB has to move his rear end! As far as drills there are some good ones in here, but if you really want this to be a staple of your offense, you have to have the kids practice timing and footwork. It is an easy play to block, but it is not that easy to run unless the kids have ample time to practice thier timing.

JRKELLY,

The easiest way going to get the QB to move on the option is to trash the old "ride and decide" mesh and simply use the point method. There is no way the QB can move as fast with the dive backs and his hands on the ball at the same time! As an ex-QB I feel qualified to tell you that UNEQUIVICALLY the point method is far superior when it comes to QB movement, fumble reduction, and teachability( it is far simpler). I have coached it for 20 plus years now, and will never even consider going back to the ride and decide. THe main detractors to the technique are those who do not know how to coach it and condem it as not worth the change. Too bad for them.

Coach Easton-TIGER ONE