Playside Slot Block in Triple Option

Coach,

If your PST calls the PSLB "OUT" that is #2, the Pitch key and the PS SB would block the #3 force player, probably the SS in cover 2. If the PST calls him "IN", then he is Not the pitch key, and does get blocked by the PS SB, who releases o/s the DE.

Stopping the stunt from the SLB would end up coming from the PST when he inside/veer releases. The rule for the PST is I/S/Veer release to the MLB (If PST calls PSLB Out), but if someone crosses your face, engage him and drive to LB level. Not saying that would be easy, but even if the PST can cause a pile, it may force the MLB to widen his path to get o/s.

Also, the center (if uncovered) should be taking his correct angle for the MLB as well.

BSG= man on
BST= I/S/veer release to BLB.

Hope this makes sense and best of luck....

As I told you before, it's up to your coach to count defenders. If they are in a 4-3, and you are running inside veer to the sam, you are outnumbered 6 to 5.

However, if your coach is still that determined to not count defenders and the sam is blitzing B gap that fast, it would have to mean that the 3 tech. is going A gap. Once the 3 tech. goes A gap, the tackle MUST be trained to start climbing to the next level because the 3 tech. is taking himself out of the play and the tackle must work to the sam. If the sam is blitzing that fast, the tackle will make contact with him anyway.

In regards to #2, you are right.

In regards to #3, the slot blocks the sam so he would not become the pitch key.

The FB will hug the wall block of the sam.

You are absolutely accurate about conflicting the force player. The play is statistically successful if the force player does not turn the ball back inside.

The motion is taking too long if safeties are rotating toward it. Even on the toss, it should not take that long. On inside veer, the slot should take two steps in arc motion before the ball is snapped. He will take more than that on the rocket toss; however, if you run toss crack with the playside receiver blocking the safety and the slot blocking the corner, you won't have that problem.

I look forward to further discussion.

Jerry, exactly! The defense has to put 5 1/2 people on both sides of the offense and if they don't it's up to the quarterback to be trained to put the ball in the opposite direction.

Coach Allore's head coach is reluctant to not count defenders and as I told Coach Allore, it's the HEAD COACH'S responsibility to teach this!

Fellas,
I don't necessarily know that it is a reluctance to count defenders or simply his belief that we must run the triple to a 1-tech DT everytime. After doing my research on this forum and some other websites, while running the triple to a 1-tech may be desirable to some, I now realize that it can be run to a 3-tech without problems. My HC is not a stubborn guy but any argument you present him must be based on research. He is listening to me. The way we currently run it is OK but certain blocks are tough. We had over 150 yards of rushing offense in the 1st quarter of our last scrimmage (which was a game simulation at University of Toledo) and ran about 30-40% Option. I was talking with another Coach from Michigan and he said that you can run the option into numbers, it doesn't matter. I argued that the reason to count was that when you hit the edge, there will be no safety to bring you down and you'll take it to the house. He just shrugged.
My point being is that my HC IS listening to what I'm saying.

Eric

I'm sorry guys,but I must have missed something.How do you figure the SB will block the Sam LB for the FB by going around a DE that is head up on the SB? The DT is in an outside shade over the guard (3-tech) , the DE is head up on the SB,and the SAM LB is head up on the DT.I don't see the SB getting there. Please help me.I rather run MIDLINE or Inside veer the other way.

OK, I ACCEPT THAT CHEWBAKKA BUT DON'T HARDLY AGREE WITH IT AT ALL. LIKE ANY DEFENSE, IF YOU STACK YOUR BACKERS IN A 5-2 OR EAGLE THEM TO A SOLID FRONT AS YOU SAY THE 5-3 YOU SEE DOES, HOW ARE YOU GOING TO KILL THAT WITH THE MIDLINE? JUST CURIOUS AS TO YOUR HC'S THINKING.

Coach Easton-TIGER ONE

Yes, I have thought of the OSV but have stopped researching it because of the direction that our HC wants to go. I will definately continue to research it though & perhaps next season as we've already decided on our playbook for this season (which may be too large already). As always, it's easy to talk about Xs & Os in the forum and what you should/could do, but hard to narrow it down to those 4 or so plays that you hang your hat on at the end of the day & run to perfection...at least for me early in my career. I'm learning though. I agree, those 3 options would be hard to stop when all in 1 package.

Coach Easton, you are right, there is always a scheme to stop everything. I don't know what he would do then. I actually enjoy the relationship I have with my HC which is good. We've been going back & forth about which option will better defeat our first opponent, the Midline or the Triple. If I remember (I forgot today) I'll ask him how he runs the Triple to a 5-2.