Pro's Defensive Recognition Terminology

dkrolak
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Pro's Defensive Recognition Terminology Jul 21, 2008 17:46:06 GMT

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Post by dkrolak on Jul 21, 2008 17:46:06 GMT

I've have been looking at a 2004 Saints Offensive Playbook. I cannot fiqure out how the pros designate various defensive fronts such as a 57, 25 ,45, 47 ETC.. . Does anyone know how they arrive with these labels?
"57"
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"25"
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"45"
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"47-"
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"49"
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"59 Loose"
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Oneback
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Pro's Defensive Recognition Terminology Jul 22, 2008 12:10:38 GMT

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Post by Oneback on Jul 22, 2008 12:10:38 GMT

Almost ALL of them are different.

Try THIS (does not matter if they are 4-3, OR, 3-4):

1. "UNDER" = Uncovered Guard to side of strength.

2. "OVER" = Uncovered Guard away from strength.

3. "EVEN" = Center uncovered.

4. "OKIE" = Center covered, & both Guards uncovered.

5. "SOLID" = Center AND both Guards are covered.

What else can there be?

Bill Mountjoy

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Pro's Defensive Recognition Terminology Jul 26, 2008 10:40:59 GMT

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Post by Huey on Jul 26, 2008 10:40:59 GMT

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Originally posted by: dkrolak
I've have been looking at a 2004 Saints Offensive Playbook. I cannot fiqure out how the pros designate various defensive fronts such as a 57, 25 ,45, 47 ETC.. . Does anyone know how they arrive with these labels?
"57"
-----------------S------------M-----------------
-----------E--------T-----T--------E--W---------
-----------O---O---O---C---O---O--------------
-------------------------Q------------------------
--------------------------------F-----------------
-------------------------T------------------------

"25"
-----------------W-----------M----------------
-------------E----T-----T--------E-----S----
--------------O---O---C---O---O---O-----------
----------------------- Q------------------------
----------------F---------------------------------
------------------------T-----------------------

"45"
-------------------------M------W----------------
-----------S---E----T--------T-----E-----------
-----------O---O---O---C---O---O--------------
-------------------------Q------------------------
--------------------------------F-----------------
-------------------------T------------------------

"47-"
---------------------M-----------S--------------
----------W-E------T-----T--------E------------
--------------O---O---C---O---O---O-----------
----------------------- Q------------------------
----------------F---------------------------------
------------------------T-----------------------

"49"
---------------S--------M------W----------------
-----------E-------- T------- T----E-------------
-----------O---O---O---C---O---O--------------
-------------------------Q------------------------
--------------------------------F-----------------
-------------------------T------------------------

"59 Loose"
---------------S------M--------W-----------
----------E--------T------T--------E-----------
-----------O---O---O---C---O---O--------------
-------------------------Q------------------------
--------------------------------F-----------------
-------------------------T------------------------

This defensive system is a 2 number system in which the technique/alignment of defenders is numbered. The first number indicates the alignment of strongside defenders and the 2nd number indicates alignment of the weakside defenders. So, in the "57" defense, the strongside defenders are aligned in their respective positions called for by a "5" defense while the weakside is aligned according to a "7" defense alignment.

Look at the "57" and the "47" defenses ... weakside alignment is the same .. i.e. defenders on the weakside are aligning in the "7" front/defense. However, the strongside defenders align in either the "4" or the "5". Likewise, if the weakside of the defense will look the same in the "17", "27", "37", "67", etc. Flip it around, and the strong side of the defense will be the same in the "48" as it is in the "42" or the "45".

There are "tags" being used as well to describe subtle adjustments within the alignment. "Loose" is simply a tag that tells one of the defenders to do something slightly different. Looks like "loose" in this defense tells the DT to shade more to the center. All other defenders stat with the called alignment. So, "#9" and "#9 Loose" are roughly the same but the weak side DT is shaded more to the center. {speculating on the tag "loose" here as I'm only going on the diagrams you've drawn}. There are likely several tags within this defense to slightly adjust 1 defender -- easier than creating tons of numbers.

Bottom line, a defensive system such as this describes 10 basic fronts for both the strong and weak side (i.e. on a "1" alignment the strongside DT aligns in a ___, the strong DE aligns in a ___, Mike aligns ___, etc., etc.). Then, they piece a strong side alignment with a weak side alignment to get their overall defensive structure.

Coach Huey
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Mervin Senior Member Posts: 259	Pro's Defensive Recognition Terminology Jul 26, 2008 12:49:16 GMT Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top Post by Mervin on Jul 26, 2008 12:49:16 GMT It sounds like Coach Mountjoy figured out the fronts that you mentioned. He is a great resouce if you have any further questions.
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Pro's Defensive Recognition Terminology

Post by dkrolak on Jul 21, 2008 17:46:06 GMT

Post by Oneback on Jul 22, 2008 12:10:38 GMT

Post by Huey on Jul 26, 2008 10:40:59 GMT

Post by Mervin on Jul 26, 2008 12:49:16 GMT

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