Seeking opinions. I am a first year head coach in a brand new program that is entering its first varsity season this year. We are implimenting a double wing offense this year. We will run midline, veer, load and speed. Because we are running option I am putting my best athlete at QB. I am wondering what other plays should I impliment? Because of the double wing, should I impliment some wing-t plays (buck, sweep, waggle, counter)? If I do put these in am I utilizing my athletic QB? If I don't put in the wing-t, then what? What are your thoughts on running two QB's. Athlete with the option game and the second QB with other plays? Any and all suggestions are appreciated.
My adivce is to not put in a hodge podge offense. The double wing is a very good offense and it is difficult to defend. You can run your basic "wing-t" plays from the double wing. The double wing does use a great deal of misdirection as well as power. Talk with some double wing coaches. www.coachwyatt.com/ is a good web site. Also, there is a book by Jerry Valooton called "The Toss". It is excellent for implementing the double wing.
If you're implementing the double wing offense and not just the formation (either the DW or the flexbone), your best athlete should not be playing QB. If you want to be an option based team, there are better formations to use. The biggest problem you will have running option in the double wing is the extremely tight line splits (zero to six inches) which do not go with option football at all! The only option I would run in that set would be outside veer, which would have inside veer footwork for the fullback and QB because of the tight line splits. The base of the double wing is POWER football and misdirection, not getting to the perimeter and running the ladder.
I do not know much about coaching the offense or setting up the Wing-T I do however know that If you are going to run the Wing-T you might want to think about how you would attack a 3-3-5 or 30-stack. Coach Lansdales team was very successfull (in the 30 stack) at stopping and forcing other teams to opt out of the Wing-T. As Far as D- Line is concearned if coached right there is no way you can run the Wing-T against a well coached 30 stack D-Line. Jst a thought. Coach Taylor
If your going to run the option, your Qb selection doesn't have to be the kid who is the fastest, quickest, or most athletic. THE ONE THING HE DOES HAVE TO BE - THE SMARTEST. The young man who can READ IT THE BEST, is always my choice. To make the right DECISIONS, as a QB, is a huge part of success in running any option! Lou's opening sentence, pick the kid you think can do it the best, and support him is right on in my book. Most true option teams throw the ball maybe 8-10 times a game, "balance" isn't their thing for the most part, so if the kid can throw adequately that will suffice. Work on his ball handling skills i.e mesh point transfers, center /QB exchange, etc. and REALLY TEACH HIM PROPER PITCH TECHNIQUES FOR WHATEVER METHOD (THUMB DOWN, OR BASKETBALL) THAT YOU DEEM THE BEST. THIS IS A CRITICAL PART OF ANY OPTION ATTACK. I have always had 6 goals for my QB's in any scrimmage or game situation. #1- no fumbles on the c/qb exchange #2- no fumbles on the qb/fb/rb mesh #3- no bad reads #4- no bad pitches #5 -no interceptions #6 - no sacks! If he can play clean in these 6 areas all night, your chances of winning is greatly enhanced!!! Another thought on the passing aspect- just because he isn't going to be required to throw it alot on game night, HE MUST BE READY TO DO SO. THE times that you insert a pass IS MOST ALWAYS INTENDED FOR MAXIMUM RESULTS, AND HE HAS TO BE ABLE TO PRODUCE. The only way he is going to be able to do this in a satisfactory manner, is to throw every day in practice and any other time he can. An option QB is not afforded the luxury on game night to establish his rhythm, he must run and run and run the option and then be expected to throw a dart to a receiver in perfect timing! It is not easy by any means. Just some food for thought in helping you arrive at your decision. Coach Easton
J.C. EASTON<BR>HEAD COACH<BR>GA TIGERS FOOTBALL<BR>PROFESSIONAL MINOR LEAGUE
Coach, don't buy the hype about the 30 stack. Attack it just like you would a 5-3. Spread it out. You'll have a field day running the jet series against it. If you have an option component, run the outside veer. The 30 stack will give the buck series a problem. Power is still great, down is still great. As far as your rules go treat that middle stack linebacker just like you would a tackle in the 4-4. The nose is going one way and he's going the other. No defense can shut down the wing-t if you use the complete package. You may run into a team that is just superior to yours, then it won't matter what they run. The stack is a good D but it isn't the end of the wing-t, I assure you. You just need to be able to pull a different tool or two out of the toolbox and go after it.
dc... just so you know...the 3-3 is the rave here in Carolina. So we have spent time looking at it's strengths and weaknesses. A slew of teams have went to it and I think you'll see it spread a little. They ran it the year before I arrived at the school I was at prior to accepting my current position. They went away from it because while it was great versus multiple formation, balanced teams the more "line up and drive it down your throat teams" were pounding it down the field. You need some serious stud tackles to prevent that and those guys are a rare thing. My suggestion is put in the wing-t nuts and bolts. Use the inside and outside veer as compliments. I'm a converted veer guy myself. I'm finding myself moving away a little because the jet package is so great. The outside veer is not as time consuming (IMO) and will get those 4-techs to widen in a hurry. Alot of times versus the 30 you won't need a great blcok on that stacked backer over the four cause his butt will over run that dive back in a hurry. Either way your getting 3-4 yards a pop every time. I used to be a wing-t hater myself. I started looking at some of the wing-t counter stuff just to add it to my option package. The more you learn about the wing-t the more you see how great a system it is. If I was at a school that was a power house and had athletes out my ears I'd probably be running the Nebraska I option. However, since most jobs don't offer that luxury, run the wing-t. The key is to run a system. Whether it's double wing, academy option, double slot, single wing etc. So many coaches just coach plays and formations, I see it at 50% of the schools where I'm at. Pull a play out of a hat stuff.
Coach, A lot of it reminds me of our old sandlot days. When the real players who have talent, and make it to college in spite of those kind of procedures in HS, they are so far behind in fundamentals, it is a real shame for the kids.
J.C. EASTON<BR>HEAD COACH<BR>GA TIGERS FOOTBALL<BR>PROFESSIONAL MINOR LEAGUE
I've been looking at the 3-5-3 vs the base wing -T formation and it seems that if you shade the nose to the wing and move the weak 5 tech to a 4 tech in the 3-3-5 that the blocking schemes will be disrupted. I'm interested in hearing your thoughts since you have run the offense. I'd be interested in hearing what you think about the big 4 plays you gotta stop: trap, waggle, buck sweep and down vs this alignment.
Coach, Any wing-t coach worth his salt is running more than those four plays and one formation. Spread 'em out a bit. Run belly. If they shift to the wing you have every play in the book with motion to the split side. Use unbalanced. I'm not saying that the system is the end all for every body. What I'm saying is no one defense is going to kill the wing-t if it is installed and called by a coach who knows the sytem. Read Creehan's article on bucksweep.com about attacking the 53. It's the same defense with the same weaknesses. The bottom line is whoever has the pen last will win this argument. Luckily for all of us the game isn't played with pen and paper.