Installing Today’s Hybrid Pistol Offense Run & Pass from Top to Bottom
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Need a little information regarding the footwork of the uncovered man with the IZ and OZ. I am concerned with the difference in steps and technique when the covered man has 1) inside shade, 2) head-up, 3) outside shade. How does the uncovered man step for each of these? Thanks again for all the help I receive on the site.
We do not get any more technical than this. From here - it has to be repped quite a bit:
INSIDE ZONE BLOCKING ("40/50 GUT")
NOTE: Uncovered man responsible for inside half of down lineman and covered lineman responsible for outside half of down lineman.
UNCOVERED MAN: Take a lead step and catch up with your covered teammate as you READ the near knee of the down lineman on him. As you work through your playside gap — if the near knee comes towards you block his inside number & fit him up sliding in the direction he is going (eyeball Lber in case he comes inside); if near knee doesn't come towards you work up on Lber. 3 situations can occur (see COVERED MAN).
COVERED MAN: Take a lead step with your outside foot eyeballing outside number of down lineman on you — second step with inside foot thru crotch of opponent. You must think man block and only go to Lber when wiped off by uncovered teammate. 3 situations usually occur: 1) Down lineman is in an outside shade & stretches — you stay on him and uncovered teammate works up on Lber. 2) Down lineman is head up & anchors on you — use double team technique driving him into Lber & stay on him until wiped off by uncovered teammate then work straight up on Lber. 3) Down lineman head up or inside shade & slants inside — force him to flatten his slant & stay on him until wiped off by uncovered teammate then work straight up on Lber.
LINEMEN NOT ZONING USE "DRIVE" (MAN) BLOCKS. Don't worry about getting position on defender — worry about blow delivery. When coming off the ball you guide with your eyes (aim with your face), and your eyes take you to the aiming point or landmark which is the playside #. Your first step is a short directional step and you throw your arms out of the socket ("don't shoot from the holster"). On the second step, your power foot must be on the ground and you arm thrust (100% blow delivery) with your fists into his short ribs (below the pads), tucking your tail and "lifting him out of his socks". Don't put your face or shoulder in, because you will be overextended and your head will be down.
NOTE: OUTSIDE ZONE BLOCKING ("60/70 OUTSIDE"): Only difference is that it is a wider reach (almost a pull) — uncovered blocker "piggybacks" covered blocker & covered blocker reaches almost to hip of outside teammate. Uncovered blocker will stay on a down lineman head up on covered teammate, and covered teammate comes off on Lber — "forcing the switch". RB aims for butt of TE and cuts off his block.
RUNNING BACK ("40/50 GUT" — INSIDE ZONE): 1st. step with playside foot, roll, crossover, and aim nose for Tackle's inside hip (if bubble over Grd) or Guard's outside hip (if bubble over Ctr or Tkl). Key the block on the first down lineman outside the Center, and make your cut on THEIR side of the L.O.S. If there is daylight in the B gap — cram the B gap — otherwise, if DLM goes out you cut inside (& vice versa). NOTE: On the OUTSIDE ZONE ("60/70 OUTSIDE) — RB drop steps & runs a straight line for butt of TE — cut inside or outside of his block.
QB: On Inside Zone the QB opens to 5 o'clock on 40 GUT and to 7 o'clock on 50 GUT. On the Outside Zone the QB opens to 4 o'clock on 60 Outside and to 8 o'clock on 70 Outside.
Coach, We have been having trouble with our uncovered man taking a bad lead step. We have tried it two ways, uncovered man PS foot replacing the BS foot of the covered man, then stepping to the BS leg of the DL with his 2nd step, and the 3rd step to the crotch of the DL. The other way was to 1st step go to th crotch of DL and the 2nd step with BS foot to the BS foot of the DL, then get push (we have hasd trouble with penetration this way. I realize the shade and width of splits make a difference as well, but I am looking for an easy way to teach this problem. I have also read the gap down and zone steps are the same, with that being said: would the uncovered man open up with PS foot, 2nd step with BS foot to crotch , 3rd step would square the OL up with the DL. Or would it better to just step to the crotch with the PS foot and then on the 2nd step take BS foot the BS leg of DL, and 3rd step splits the crotch. Do you teach the uncovered mans shoulders to always stay square to LOS>
Quite simply put - the lead step on the INSIDE ZONE is more AT the DLM on your outside teammate; and on the OUTSIDE ZONE it is more AT your outside teammate (since you are "piggybacking" him). We don't get any more technical than that.
I described OUR (& Joe Bugel's) methos on a previous post (above). Here is how Tom Osborne did it at Nebraska: Note the similarities:
Inside Zone Blocking
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Inside zone blocking is designed to use the movement of the defenders against them as the running back finds the crease in the defense. Though inside zone plays are usually called to the guard or tackle holes (3,4,6,or 7), they can break open anywhere from tight end to tight end, depending on how the defense attacks.
Inside zone blocking rules allow linemen to use the movement and attack angles of the defenders against them. Whichever way the defender chooses to go, he is sealed off and the running back is prepared to cut off the block. Nebraska running backs are taught to attack the line-of-scrimmage (LOS) before cutting on inside zone plays. This gives the blocks the needed time to develop. The rule for the I-back is that his feet must replace the feet of the lineman before he can cut.
Inside zone blocking rules are keyed by whether a lineman is covered or uncovered. A covered lineman (one who has a defensive lineman aligned across from him) will execute a "stretch base" technique. This means he will take a short stretch step to the play side (step right on a 44, left on a 46) and attempt to control the playside shoulder of the d-lineman. The purpose of the stretch step is to invite movement by the d-lineman, then immediately engage him.
Uncovered linemen (no d-lineman across from them) execute a "stretch double" technique. Stretch double also calls for a stretch step to playside. The uncovered lineman then attacks the backside shoulder of the same d-lineman, creating double teams on most of the defensive linemen.
NOTE: the linemen operate on a system that moves to playside, NOT toward the hole called. On a 44 dive the play is called to the right guard, but the key is that it is a right side play. The right tackle's and right tight end's playside shoulders are their RIGHT shoulders even though the play was called to the left of them. The 4 hole is to the right side of the center, so right is playside for everyone on the line.
In executing the stretch double technique, the uncovered lineman assists the covered lineman to the playside; i.e., if a center and playside tackle are covered, the playside guard executes the stretch double with the tackle, NOT the center. If side-by-side linemen are both covered, the playside lineman is "on his own," and executes a stretch base block without double team help.
When executing the double team, both linemen follow what some coaches call a four hands-four eyes technique. This means they have four hands on the defensive lineman and four eyes on the linebacker in the area (their zone- which is where the name of the blocking comes from). When that linebacker commits to attacking the LOS one of the linemen chips off the double team and blocks him. The other lineman must be in position by then to take over the block on the lineman by himself. The linebacker is technically the responsibility of the uncovered lineman, but in practice either lineman can chip off and take the linebacker, depending on their position.
The goal of the stretch and stretch double is to create a cutback lane for the running back. When executed correctly, the "stretched" defender has moved in the direction of the call, and the stretch double prevents him from reaching a running back that has "cut back" against the flow of the play. If the double team can prevent the down lineman from making the tackle, and the "chip off" block prevents the playside linebacker from doing the same, the play can quickly get into the secondary.
The beauty of zone blocking is that the defense can pick its poison. Which ever way they choose to attack or stunt, the linemen (if they have perfected the zone blocking teamwork) can account for them. And the running back is trained to watch this block develop and cut off of it, no matter which direction the defenders are moved.
A very important block on an inside zone play is the backside seal block that allows the IB to cut back all the way to the backside TE spot if the whole defense fights to the playside. Depending on the formation used, the backside tackle, tight end, or fullback can be used to block the backside. A sure sign of an inside zone play is when the fullback heads away toward the TE without a fake while the IB goes straight ahead for a handoff. In one-back sets the backside seal cen be done by a wingback in motion. This is one area where big WB Troy Hasselbroek shone at the end of the 1999 season.
Outside Zone Blocking
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- The offensive line blocks Outside Zone Rules. These are similar to Inside Zone Rules in that they use the covered/uncovered read and playside direction. The blocking techniques, though, are different, as the plays are designed to get the defense moving laterally across the field and create seams in their coverage.
The covered lineman executes a "rip-reach" technique. He takes an angle step at the playside shoulder of the defensive lineman and rips with his backside arm. His job is to turn the DLs shoulders and get him off-balance and prepared for his partner.
The uncovered lineman executes a "pull and overtake" technique. He takes a shallow pull step toward playside (sometimes called a bucket step) and works to take over the block of his partner.
The covered lineman wants to rip through his d-lineman to get to the linebacker, while his uncovered partner takes over his original block. If the covered lineman is unable to rip through because the DL fights to the outside, then the covered lineman stays with that block and the pull and overtake lineman pulls around that block and finds the linebacker.
PS: Your "lead step" takes the defender on the angle you find him on - therefore you are NOT exactly square to the LOS. As Rams O-Line coach - John Matsko (disciple of Bugel & Hanifan) used to say: "If you are pushing a stalled car - you push it on the angle you find it on; you can't square your shoulders in any way other than the angle on which you are pushing the car"!!! Another words - if the DLM is on a 45 degree angle to your outside - you can't get a push on him with your shoulders square to the LOS!
This is from Steve Loney (coached with Bugel at Arizona Cardinals). NOTE: He says that on INSIDE ZONE - uncovered lineman steps at HIP of DLM to outside. That is what I said WE do (step AT DLM). On OUTSIDE ZONE - it is a bigger hip turn more to your outside (covered) teammate.
PRINCIPLES OF INSIDE AND OUTSIDE ZONE SCHEME
ZONE SCHEME- MID TEMPO SCHEME DESIGNED TO BLOCK MULTIPLE FRONTS. DESIGNED TO LATERALLY STRETCH THE DEFENSE OPENING DIAGONAL RUNNING LANES WITH BIG CUTBACK POTENTIAL.
KEY PRINCIPLES:
1. INITIATE MOVEMENT ON THE FIRST LEVEL AND CLIMB TO THE SECOND
2. NEUTRALIZE 1ST LEVEL AND PICK UP 2ND LEVEL AS IT INSERTS INTO THE FRONT
3. MUST BLOCK FORCE ( ALLEY OR SECOND LEVEL PLAYER ASSIGNED TO TURN PERIMETER PLAY INSIDE ) AND ZOT ( ZONE OF THE BACKSIDE TACKLE )
INSIDE ZONE
KEY: MUST DETERMINE IF COVERED OR UNCOVERED- THIS DONE BY SIGHT AND FRONT DETERMINATION
A. COVERED- 3 STEP ZONE (MAY HAVE HELP IF HEAD UP TO INSIDE)
1. WEIGHT TRANSFER STEP ( 6"-8" POWER STEP JUST OUTSIDE DL ALIGNMENT )
2. STEP TO CROTCH MIDLINE (KNEE TO NUTS )
3. WIDTH AND DISTANCE STEP - MAINTAIN BASE, GET GOOD POSITION AND DOWNHILL MOVEMENT
NOTE: MAY HAVE VERY SLIGHT HIP TURN TO TRACK
B. UNCOVERED- ZONE STEP ( STEP TO HIP OF PLAYSIDE DL- EYES ON LB) 3 CHECKS
1. CHECK SLANT- COVERED MAN PLAYSIDE ( 1 HAND IF SLANT BRING TWO )
2. CHECK PLUG- BACKER FILL (ATTACK V.S. IMMEDIATE FILL)
3. CLIMB TO BACKSIDE BACKER
NOTE: HELP INITIATE MOVEMENT THEN CLIMB- NO PIECE THEN CLIMB NOW
NOTES: BACKSIDE TACKLE IS ALWAYS CONSIDERED UNCOVERED
21 BLOCK- BACKSIDE TACKLE BLOCK END AND CLIMB TO WILL AS HE CROSSES MIDLINE
Excellent stuff gentlemen!!! We have used 3 different lead steps with our inside play with our uncovered man the past 3 seasons. We first started with the lead step to the near hip and found that penitration was killing us, so we went to a laterial lead step and did'nt feel like we could handle a slant inside real consistantly. Met with the o-line coaches at the Univ. of Minnesota last spring and they use a bucket step with the uncovered man. They feel that the bucket step is a great timing device allowing the uncovered lineman to key the near hip. If the near hip stayed at home or came towards the uncovered lineman he assumed he would combo and try to take over the block. If the near hip disappears stay on your track to 2nd level.
We had great success with this technique this past fall. Our uncovered lineman did a better job of keying the near hip of the defender and it seemed that it allowed us to get more of a vertical push rather than the horizontal push that we were getting.
Keep up the great posting, I look forward to reading and learning from these post each day!!!!
Jetsweep
"Your work ethic determines your future" Boyd Eply
All of the techniques have merit. Penetration has not been a problem for us when lead stepping on the Inside Zone BECAUSE: A) we are OFF the ball as far as legal; B) man you are zoning with will contact the outside 1/2 of the man (regardless pf his charge) & there will be no penetration unless he "whiffs"!
Post by Dublin Ireland on Nov 10, 2004 2:08:13 GMT
I have a few questions about Inside Zone blocking: Does the covered lineman execute a stretch step even if the DL is inside shading him? If so, is the intention to get the OL onto the DL's outside shoulder, sealing the DL from getting outside? Or is it that the OL takes the DL with him? Let's say the playside G and T were covered, and the T had an inside shade on him. The T is one-on-one, so should he still step to the outside, giving the DL a chance to penetrate inside? I just want to make sure I understand the intention of the steps.
How is the force player blocked, generally?
Take the example of a standard I-Form against a 4-3. The 4-3 has a BSDE in a 5 Tech, a BSDT in a 1, a PSDT in a 3 and a PSDE heads-up on the TE (can't remember what that technique is... it gets all confusing when you get to the TE, doesn't it!). Will is over the Backside B-Gap, Mike has the playside A-Gap and Sam is over the playside C-Gap. The SS is the force defender.
In this example, from what I gather of Inside Zone: The BST will go straight for Will. The FB will cut off the BSDE. The BSG and C will combo the BSDT to Mike. The PSG will take the PSDT alone. The PST and TE will combo the PSDE to Sam.
Who blocks the SS?
Also, What happens if the BSDT is aligned in a 2i? Does the C go straight for Mike? How close does a BACKSIDE DL have to be to 'qualify' to be comboed? In this case, the C can't get to the frontside DL (3 tech), and the backside DL is inside shading the BSG... when does that backside block become a no-no?
Sorry for the amount of questions, but I am giving serious thought to installing inside and outside zone next year. (I had ditched the idea, but then I watched Pittsburgh demolish Philly last Sunday with what looked to me like zone plays.) Thanks for your time. Andy
Look above to my post of Nov 9, 2004. Undered "covered man" (in zone blocking) your first step with playside foot is to the playside # of the defender & your second step is thru his crotch (you have the OUSIDE HALF of the man when zoning with inside (unccovered) teammate). You use those steps REGARDLESS if he is inside shade, head up, or outside shade. THUS - the angle you come off the ball changes slightly on each.
If you are covered & your inside teammate is covered, you are NO LONGER ZONING, & use a BASE DRIVE BLOCK (also described in my post of Nov 9, 2004).
Force player always handled by EITHER H or X or Z (depending on personnel package, motion &/or finished formation (there are literally dozens of possibilities from 3x1 personnel, as well as 2x2 personnel).
As to the defenses you mentioned - we do not think that the Inside Zone is a great play INTO the 3 technique. Some pretty good O-Line coaches (such as Alex Gibbs, Joe Bugel, Russ Grimm, etc.) tend to agree. Running it into the 3 technique FORCES the cutback (sometimes into a shaded nose). The play is BEST to the side of the 2I or shaded nose (where B gap is defended by a LB - NOT a DLM! That way - the RB gets a chance to CRAM THE B GAP for 5 yds. (which is the GOAL of the play). Running it to this side frequently get you in behind THREE DOUBLE TEAM BLOCKS (in a 2 TE set) also.
Coachjd or anyother's, Just wanted a little more information on the bucket step. Is this the theory of giving ground to gain ground? We have used the lateral step and near leg step as well with limited success, I am very interested on the technique of the bucket step. Would you use the bucket on the outside zone as well. Once again thank you for your help.
BASICALLY - here is how the good zone coaches block the "OVER" & "UNDER" fronts, which make up probably 80% of what you will see. This is how I learned it from Joe Bugel, Jim Hanifan, Russ Grimm, etc (I have had people want to debate this - but I'm sold on this way of doing it - Bugel taught it better than it's ever been taught & Grimm executed it better than it's ever been executed - that's good enough for me)! Note: Time will not allow me to go into other looks - suggest anyone interested in ZONE BLOCKING get the Alex Gibbs tape now offered on EBAY!
I. VS 4-3 OVER: (INSIDE ZONE RIGHT)
H kick out 5 tech backside LT reach Will (B gap backside) LG reach 2 I backside (depending on exactly where WILL is - LT & LG MAY zone) Center & RG zone from Mike to 3 tech playside RT & TE zone from Sam (C gap) to 6 tech playside.
NOTE: If there is a 4-3 OVER/STACK (shade nose weakside INSTEAD olf a 2I) - the following changes occur: LG & Center zone from shade nose to Mike RG = alone on 3 tech.
II. VS 4-3 UNDER (INSIDE ZONE RIGHT)
H kick out 5 tech backside LT & LG zone from Will to 3 tech backside (Will usually between 5 & 3 tech.). Center = alone on playside shade nose playside RG & RT zone from Mike (B gap) to 5 tech playside TE = alone on Sam (9 tech) playside
NOTE: If shade nose moved to a 2 I playside - the following changes occur: Center & RG zone from 2I to Mike (B gap) RT = alone on DE (5) Te = alone on Sam (9)
Now this covers the play against both OVER & UNDER - with & without shade noses. Do not have time to cover other looks. Once again, SERIOUS students of zone blocking should get the A. Gibbs video available on EBAY: I copied this from EBAY (below)
EBAY item # 7112918785 (Alex Gibbs Coaching Football Online Video Playbook): This is a video from the 2001 and 2002 COOL Clinic. Alex Gibbs goes over the entire wide zone and inside zone play. It is a great video and one of the best that I have ever seen. He is considered the reason why the Denver Bronco offense has been so successful at running the ball. This video goes 4+ hours and goes over every detail that is related to running the zone play. Not the greatest quality of film but the content is tremondous. Also goes over protection and other things as well. Great video and would be a great addition for any coach.
Hos-Hos - my reply above was to a coach from Ireland.
As to the "bucket step": Many good line coaches use it (McNally, Howard Mudd, University of Minnesota, etc.). Many good line coaches do NOT use it - they "lead step" instead (Bugel, Hanifan, Grimm, Matsko, A Gibbs). This has been a source of friendly debate among NFL line coaches for years, & it is strictly a matter of PERSONAL PREFERENCE. I like the "lead step". Best thing for you to do is to study CUTUPS of the teams in question & choose what is best for you. Get the Alex Gibbs video on ZONE BLOCKING (see my post above). It is the best video out on the subject. Regards; Bill
Not to confuse anyone, we only bucket step with our uncovered lineman, the covered linemen will lead step to the playside number (as discussed very will by Oneback).
The combo we have to work on the most is vs. the inside shade. Teaching the lineman that his lead step is picking his playside foot up and stomping it right back into the ground. We tell them to use their nose as the landmarks on the playside number, so vs. the inside shade, our nose is already aligned with the PS number.
The uncovered lineman will bucket step, key near hip of defender and align his nose on the breast plate of the defender, driving vertically downfield.
Jetsweep
"Your work ethic determines your future" Boyd Eply
OneBack, The bucket step is like a pull step? Open at 90 degree, 2nd step would be to the DL near leg or crotch, and the 3rd step would square me up and then drive. With young linemen would this be a good idea? I live in Ohio and travel to Bowling Green and Toledo to talk with their coaches and I believe they bucket on the outside zone not on the inside zone.....to dangerous they let the back work for them. Would you agree with this assesment bucket ( is this the same as piggy-back) on the outside but not on the IZ. Thanks!
Hos-Hos: As you said - WE take the 6" lead step AT the hip of the DLM on our outside teammate on the Inside Zone. On the Outside Zone - it is more of a pull - stepping at your outside teammate in order to "piggyback" him. A "bucket step" is more of a DROP STEP. McNally defines a bucket step as a "drop step when covered by a LB - thus it isdeeper than a drop step taken if covered by a DLM" (he says: "the deeper the LB - the deeper the bucket step"). As I said - we don't do that. Howard Mudd & McNally do. Check out their tapes. There is one that I know of on Mudd (who was McNally's guru) from the "COOL" clinic group. McNally has a bunch of tapes out - done with Anthony Munoz demonstrating. You can get the McNally/Munoz tapes from "SYSKOS" (1-800-932-2534). This would show the sanswer to your questions about "bucket step", etc.
I will forward you something on Howard Mudd below. As I said - we don't use the drop step nor the bucket step, so I can't elaborate on what he is saying. You might find iut interesting anyway:
HOWARD MUDD — INSIDE ZONE BLOCKING TECHNIQUE
I. ONSIDE:
A) COVERED WITH NO HELP
1. Outside middle target (aim nose 1"-2" outside middle) 2. Controlled strike — "hanging" lead step/drop step. 3. Accuracy more important than force — take time. 4. Step on outsides of his feet. 5. Hands on both sides of your nose. 6. Work hands and feet & press him away from you — no turn — Even if you're not moving him — be ready to finish him when RB moves him.
B) COVERED WITH HELP
1. Same as above until man leans or stunts to your help. Then free outside hand & wait till you get to the depth of LB. 2. When it's time to come off — block the LB on angle you find him on — middle of cylinder — nose outside. 3. 2 hands goes to 1 hand.
C) UNCOVERED HELPING
1. Drop step & crossover — lead hand up. 2. Landmark — "piss on inside foot of defender". 3. Target outside middle. 4. Stay on down lineman until you reach depth of LB — until he comes to you. 5. See LB — feel the pile. 6. Don't abandon course — wait for LB to read — don't be impulsive. 7. 1 hand goes to 2 hands.
II. OFFSIDE:
A) CUTOFF (WORKING ALONE)
1. Take HIM to the play — don't let him take YOU to the play. "Cross the T" on him. 2. Drop step deeper when he's tighter. 3. Rip and arch your back. 4. Meet him in front of your buddy.
OHER COACHING POINTS ON INSIDE ZONE BLOCKING: (next page) 1. Block them on the angle you find them on — cover them up with the proper target — push and pester — stay on angle (don't turn) — let RB move them for you. 2. Leverage the P.O.A. — target! — intercept pursuit ("cross T"). 3. Leverage the man — footwork — knee bend — hands & feet. 4. Finish — feet — hands — attitude. 5. Middle of cylinder — aim nose 1" — 2" outside — big toe of my outside foot on outside of little toe of his outside foot, and little toe of my inside foot on outside of big toe on his inside foot (i.e. step on outsides of his feet).
OneBack, Thanks for that info. My biggest problem is the penetration we were getting from the head-up DL. We tried to cut down the split but that goes against the rules of the IZ. We taught our uncovered lineman to replace the BS foot of the covered lineman while stepping laterally. I have heard on here that they should step to the DL BS leg. We did teach them that but on the 2nd step (which put one foot in front of the other), then on the 3rd they squared up by bringinng the PS foot around. I guess the other thing we could do is get off the ball more to allow more room for our OL to get into position. I like the lateral step because it gives you more flex, the stepping to the DL BS leg on the 1st step concerns me because of the penetration we had. Your thoughts?
If you have the line off the ball (at LEAST helmets' on the Center's belt), & cut splits down (I PREFER 18" or LESS) - then penetration is not a problem on Inside Zone. The Outside blocker will contact the DLM on his outside # (with inside shoe to crotch) & get a BIG BITE on the outside half of the DLM. That is all we teach. If the DLM in a 4I or 4 - the covered lineman is coming off RIGHT AT HIM (not reach stepping outside - which would open the door inside).
Oneback, Thanks for the help. I just lined up some of my guys and we were at 14" vs. 2i also 4i and it looked pretty good. I guess like anything else it is a matter of reps and more reps. We see a lot of what we call tite 50, the guard, tackle, and te covered. In this front the only double you are going to get will be with the center and psg...correct. Regardless of the tech. on the pst and pste they will be what I call "solo". So if the pst has a 4i he will take him "solo" Is this correct?
In that defense you describer - What are they playing on the OTHER SIDE? If there are 4 men to one side of the Center & 3 men to the other side - run the Inside Zone to the 3 man side. ALSO - how do they adjust to 2 TE set (with 2 WR's & 1 RB - like the Colys use)? Vs. the front you described - you should have a FIELD DAY on the Outside Zone!!!!!
In that defense you describer - What are they playing on the OTHER SIDE? If there are 4 men to one side of the Center & 3 men to the other side - run the Inside Zone to the 3 man side. ALSO - how do they adjust to 2 TE set (with 2 WR's & 1 RB - like the Colts use)? Vs. the front you described - you should have a FIELD DAY on the Outside Zone!!!!!
Oneback, I just replied to you on my other post and I answered your question for this post....confusing? I agree we like to run the OZ to that open side with 3 defenders, I will run my Q with the A back leading. We have messed with the 2 TE and 1 Rb set and we get a base 50, I love to run the IZ vs. the base 50, you are assurred 2 combos and the BSTE cuts off the BSDT so the BST can get to the BSLB if needed. We always leave the DE's unblocked because our QB reads the IZ, Gt, and Gh. What do you think?
Post by Dublin Ireland on Nov 11, 2004 9:08:04 GMT
Coach Mountjoy, Thanks for your response. I've just been reading through some old threads on Zone blocking on this forum and there's one question that I couldn't find a satisfactory answer to. I'll use a scenario to illustrate my problem:
It's Inside Zone Right. There's a DL in the backside A-Gap, right in the middle of the gap, and a DL heads-up on the PSG. The idea that each lineman is responsible for a zone at a 45-degree angle to his playside would suggest that the C would combo with the PSG. But I worry that the A-Gap defender would be washed into the play by the block of the BSG.
What should happen here? Does the C combo with the BSG or the PSG? Regards, Andy
I cannot speak for coach Mountjoy, but we do take our center to zone with the PSG and the backside guard needs to stop any penatration and pin the A gap defender either flat down the LOS or push him across and upfield. Our running back was very good and reading the blocks infront of him this past season and hitting the cutback. We put or 2 best OL at the guards just because of the A gap defender away from the play.
"Your work ethic determines your future" Boyd Eply
Yes - in 4-3 OVER with a 2I backside, Center zones with playside Guard from M to #2. HOWEVER - IF there is a shaded nose backside (rather than a 2I) it is more secure for Center to zone with BACKSIDE Guard!
Post by Dublin Ireland on Nov 12, 2004 1:33:11 GMT
Thanks for the replies, I think I'm getting it now.
A lot depends on the BSG's ability to make that killer block on the 2i. Or for the RB to cut back around the BSG?
You say that the C blocks a shaded nose to the backside. Is it correct, then, to apply that to all linemen (except the BST) and tell them that a defender is 'in their zone' if he is shading them to the backside? Anything further to the backside than that and it's not your responsibility anymore.
How do you handle a situation where, say, the C has a 0 tech on him, with a LB walked-up in the playside A-Gap?
Would this require an audible from the linemen, or is there a catch-all rule that would help counter this sort of situation?
Andy - just based upon a 0 tech on the Center & a LB in the PS A gap - doesn't tell me enough to intelligently give you an answer to your question. What formation are you in? Where is EVERYONE on defense (how many Safeties deep; how many men in the "defensive box", etc.; which sidew is the "wide" side of the defense - where B gap is defended by a LB; which side is the "redfuced" side of the defense - where the B gap is defended by a DLM)? Even IF I knew the answers to the above questions, in order to game plan, I would still have to know something about your personnel AND theirs; their defensive tendencies & techniques, etc.
A Shade on the Center is considered IN the Center box, & the rule says that if you are covered - you zone with an uncovered teammmate backside, so Center ANF Off Guard zone vs shade weak. Just follw the rules!!!!!
ZONE BLOCKING RULES:
A) (EVERYONE) IF YOU ARE UNCOVERED — ZONE WITH YOUR TEAMMATE TO PLAYSIDE. B) (EVERYONE) IF YOU ARE COVERED LOOK BACKSIDE - #1 IF YOUR TEAMATE BACKSIDE IS UNCOVERED - ZONE WITH HIM. #2 IF YOUR TEAMATE BACKSIDE IS COVERED — MAN BLOCK