Installing Today’s Hybrid Pistol Offense Run & Pass from Top to Bottom
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If you are running inside zone strong and the defense gives you a 3 tech and 9 tech. would it be better to have the guard and tackle block the 3 to sam and base the TE on the 9? I would probably base it on the position of the Sam backer but it shouldn't mater anyway since the play will rollback.
The BEST way to run it is for Center & On Guard to zone Mike & the 3; On Tackle & TEzone Sam & 9. You get a better push on the 3 this way cause ball is PROBABLY going to cutback ANYWAY!!!!!
If there is a shade weak on Center - Center & OFF guard must zone it & playside Guard has 3 alone!!!!! Check 40/50 Gut in the Ram plkaybook you have - this is how MOST GOOD ZONE teams do it!
The reason I ask is because the Falcons ran tight zone force into a 3,9 look and got a big play out of it. Here is how they blocked it:
TE based 9 tackle and guard comboed 3 to Sam BSG and center blocked shade to Mike Tackle blocked Will Reverse fake took care of backside DE fullback went playside and due to the 3 getting pushed out he ended up on the weak saftey in run support
PS: THIS (above) is how it comes out following the RULES for the play.
A) NUMBERED DEFENDERS: Center = #0 (MIKE) & since #0 is a LB he can zone with playside G; On G = #1 (3 tech) & since #3 is a DLM he zones with uncovered backside teammate (Center); On T = #2 (SAM) & since #2 is a LB can zone with playside TE; & TE = #3 (9 tech) & since 9 is a DLM can zone with backside teammate (Tackle).
B) COVERED/UNCOVERED RULES: Center uncovered so zones with playside G (M to 3 tech); playside G covered so he zones with uncovered backside teammate (Center); playside T uncovered so he zones with playside TE (Sam to 9).
You gain nothing except confusion going against the rules!!!!!
When you posed your initial question - you did not indicate a shade on the Center. Read my post (just under your initial post) that alludes to a shade. As I told someone yesterday who wanted to know how to block a defense based on the align of TWO players - you can't give an answer to that. In order to intelligently answer a question - I need to know:
1. Your formation (determines where you get the blockers needed to take care of the potential extra man in box). 2. Defensive align of front (Over/Under/Over Shade/Under Shade/ ETC. 3. Number of defenders in BOX (that determines Atlanta's use of the "FORCE" block). Might necessitate checking out if you are short blockers, ETC. 4. # of Safeties deep (helps determine how many people in box, AND if an extra blocker is needed ("FORCE"), & where run force is cominf FROM.
Oh yeah I'm assuming that was a call made at the LOS, it is probably going against the rules but that is how they do it. In the play the SS went back to cover the MOF and the corner followed the reciever who was carrying out the end around fake. The fullback probably read the 3 going out and took it backside knowing the back would rollback.
The fact that there was a shade (C now covered) changed the blocks. We don't use "Force" call because we are STRICTLY one back in bacfield. We prefer to stick with the rules - if not, there will be MASS CONFUSION!
Here is another example of what the Falcons do. They ran tight zone force against an underfront with the Mike and Will shaded weak. TE blocked Sam tackle blocked 5 guard and center blocked shade to Mike BSG and BST blocked 3 to Will FB read the defense and ended up going behind the centers block on the shade to help out on the Will corner on playside got sucked in by end around fake. There was a SS that came down but didn't factor into the play.
I agree with Coach Mountjoy. Stick with the rules. With the 3 tech being playside then there is usually some sort of shade either on the center or a 2i. With that being said there is a natural bubble for the cutback. Simply have the BSG cave in the A gap player while the BST comes down on Will. This will give the back a great cutback seam. The problem I see with having the PST come down on the 3 tech then go to Sam is that Sam will probably have some sort of outside leverage. Having the Tackle come down inside then possibly having to change direction to block out on Sam which is a smaller and faster than the tackle is not setting him up to be very successful. Keep him going playside. If you had the PST step down to the 3tech first what would happen if Sam blitzed Cgap or 9 and Sam played a game? If you use covered/uncovered then that could easily be picked up.
Thank you coach Mountjoy. Might I add that I thoroughly enjoy reading your posts in the installing the passing game forum. Would you mind if I picked your brain some time about the passing game?
I am working on some stuff for QB's. We ALWAYS put the "HITCH" in first (WR runs a 5 step route & QB takes 3 step). Enclosed is what my mentor (SID GILLMAN) gave to his QB's on throwing the "HITCH":
QB COACHING POINTS ON "HITCH PASS" (SID GILLMAN)
KEY: CORNERS.
A) BEST LOCATED CORNER — DEEPEST AND FARTHEST OFF X OR Z. B) IF ROTATION — CHANGE SIDES OF HIT THE DRIFTER (BACK) C) HIT THE FADE VS ROTATION — LAY IT UP. ALSO VS BUMP AND RUN (VS B&R WITH NO DEEP HELP — PUT THE BALL IN THE AIR TO HIS OUTSIDE WHEN HE IS AT 8-10 YARDS — LAY IT IN THE AIR & LET HIM RUN UNDER IT).
SET UP AND THROW:
A) STRETCH OUT 3 STEPS AND RELEASE ON THE RECEIVER'S HITCH. THE BALL MUST BE IN THE AIR AS HE TURNS. B) CARRY THE BALL WITH TWO HANDS, CHEST HIGH AND AS YOU SET TO THROW — PUSH THE BALL UP WITH BOTH HANDS. C) GET THE BALL UP AND READY AS YOU SET UP. D) THE BALL MUST BE ON IT'S WAY JUST AFTER YOU PLANT. E) YOU MUST KNOW WHERE YOU ARE GOING WITH THE BALL AS YOU SET UP. F) YOU MUST NOT FLAG THE BALL AND CHANGE SIDES — IT IS TROUBLE! YOU CAN HIT THE DRIFTER (BACK) BUT NOT SWITCH SIDES. YOU CAN CHANGE SIDES IF YOU DECIDE EARLY. G) IF YOU ARE GOING TO CHANGE SIDES — SEE IT BEFORE YOU SET UP. H) THE "CATCH" CORNER IS HARDEST TO BEAT.
COACHING POINTS:
A) YOU MUST NOT STARE AT THE RECEIVER — MOST CORNERS ARE "CLUERS" AND READ YOU. LB's WILL BUZZ TO THE OUTSIDE. B) ZERO IN ON A SAFETY TO THE SIDE AND THEN TRANSFER YOUR VISION — GO TO THE RECEIVER JUST BEFORE YOU ARE SET TO THROW. YOU MUST SEE THE UNDERNEATH COVERAGE. C) YOU MUST BE ABLE TO SEE YOUR DRIFTING BACK AND BE PREPARED TO GO TO HIM IF YOU READ KICK — (ROTATION). D) THE HITCH WILL GO TO A FADE VS ROTATION. THE FADE IS A VERY DELICATE PASS AND NEEDS PRACTICE. E) YOU CAN THROW THE HITCH ANY TIME, ANY PLACE IF THE CORNER MEN ARE DEEP. F) IF YOU DON'T LIKE WHAT YOU SEE (EVERYTHING COVERED TOO TIGHT) YOU CAN: 1. RUN 2. THROW THE BALL OUT OF BOUNDS