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Slide Protection Feb 28, 2005 19:50:25 GMT

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Post by plowboycoach on Feb 28, 2005 19:50:25 GMT

One back, You seem to be very knowledgeable. I have a question for you. In zone protection schemes such as slide have you heard of having uncovered linemen getting behind covered linemen overlapping their near leg to facilitate blitz pickups and trade offs. I heard Danny Hope who was the offensive line coach at Oklahoma with Howard Schnellenberger talk about using such a technique. At least I'm pretty sure I did. I've never heard anyone else talk about using it. Am I crazy?

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Slide Protection Feb 28, 2005 19:56:53 GMT

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Post by Oneback on Feb 28, 2005 19:56:53 GMT

Plowboycoach - haven't heard of overlapping legs, but I do know that the covered man who's leaving the man on him to slide to the gap in the direction of the call (where there is a LB) stays square & on the 1/2 of the DLM in the direction he's sliding to give all-important BODY PRESENCE to his teammate who is sliding TOWARDS him (amost HIP TO HIP). In other words - if no one is showing immediately in the gap he's slding to, he isn't in a hurry to get there (just be ready in CASE someone comes). Overlapping legs sounds like an interesting concept - I would be concerned about them getting their feet tangled, & perhaps tripping.

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Slide Protection Feb 28, 2005 20:01:17 GMT

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Post by plowboycoach on Feb 28, 2005 20:01:17 GMT

They way I remember Danny Hope teaching it was thus. Say that you had a center and guard responsible for a 1 technique and a mike any blitz to the opposite A gap. The Center would take his normal pass set on the one technique and the guard on the snap would (say he's the left guard) begin working back and stepping behind the center keeping square to the line of scrimmage so that he could be in good position to take the nose if the center had an blitz in the opposite A gap.

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Slide Protection Feb 28, 2005 20:07:30 GMT

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Post by Oneback on Feb 28, 2005 20:07:30 GMT

We use a similar technique in all our protections when the Center is uncovered & blocking LT or RT. In the 5 step game - If we are zoning - we get HIP TO HIP. If we are man blocking - we allow the Guard (in the example you gave above) to get a little deeper than the Center in case Mike blitzes to the other side (so he could shuffle behind the Center & pick him up).

I like the HIP TO HIP idea when 2 adjacent blockers are zoning off TWISTS (E-T; T-E; etc.).

PS: In response to your last post - once we get a direction for turning back - nothing is going to make us go back the other way (you mentioned Center stepping left & then going back the other way to pick up A gap blitz) . Not sure if you were alluding to "slide", but (IMO) if you slide - stay with the gap responsibility to that side.

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