Installing Today’s Hybrid Pistol Offense Run & Pass from Top to Bottom
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I think I remember seeing something about playing quarters from an 8 man front - maybe dropping the backside outside backer up to serve as the backside safety. Is this a legitimate concept ? If so, why would you choose this over 2-deep robber (like Va. Tech, etc.) ? If you can provide details, please do.
QUARTERS (this is how we play it) -there are a number of different ways to play this coveage. We run it this way because we feel it fits in better with what we do overall.
Corners are locked on #1; expect no help
Safety read #2 #2 to flat - get inside and ontop of #1 - but - if #2 runs a wheel, get ontop of it #2 vertical - lock on #2 #2 shallow inside (under LB's drop) - look for crosser or help corner #2 deep inside (behind LB's drop) - lock on #2 We tell that safety that if he ever becomes confused as to what #2 is doing, simply lock on to #2.
OLB (to 2-receiver side) has whoever comes to the flat #2 or #3. If #2 goes vertical, the OLB should try to give him a shot (to help the safety). If #2 does a wheel, the OLB will run to the flat with him, but the safety will play the deep part of the pattern.
On the backside the OLB and LB combo the back (in a 2-back set). If the OLB stunts, the LB has the back, and vice versa.
We run this coverage only to the following formations: pro, tight slot, 2TE/2FL. We do not run this coverage to a twins or to a TE/wing.
In this coverage the corners are really pass defenders; they don't have to be great run defenders. The safeties have to be able to play the run. I like this coverage vs double width formtions better than cover2 because I feel it does a better job of squeezing the runs off-tackle and outside. It cuts down the alley that a 2-deep half field player must fill, and it puts a defender closer to the action than a 2-deep corner. If the offense does not release #2, the defense ends up doubling #1. There is never a blocker assigned to block the FS; he's not only the 9th man in the bax, he's also an unblocked player.
When we face a 1-back team we will jump into a 4-3 scheme that has our SE-side OLB become the SE-side deep 1/4 player.
I want to see if I have you correct. I'm looking at your Robber package vs. your Man-Free. Your Robber is keyed out in your previous post. Am I right to say that your Man-Free coverage has your OLBs locked on #2 with the FS hanging back a little deeper? I'm thinking that I read a previous post from you saying that you still have the FS reading #2 in Man-Free (Cover 1).
If I am correct, do you differentiate at all how aggressive the FS is on coming up against the run. In other words, do you have him hang back a little longer since the OLB over #2 is locked on?
Drills and keys to teach the FS to defend the wheel - We don't drill the FS specifically vs the wheel, but we do drill him on his reads/reactions. We will do a lot of 3 on 2 drills which are 1/2 line. We'll put the ball in the middle of the field and have a SE and slot on each side work against a corner, OLB and FS on each side. The coach stands behind the defense and signals to the offense what patterns to run. One side of the offense goes, and then the other. That's it. We get a ton of reps.
As far as keys/read go - we tell the FS that there will be a definite difference on #2's release if he is going to the flat and if he's on a wheel. One difference is that on a flat pattern, he'll want to get his around to see the ball. He'll start to straighten up. On a wheel, he probably won't look back or will fake a look. He'll keep a low body profile.
When the FS sees #2 going to the flat, the FS can not simply fly out to the flat. We tell the FS to get his eyes on #1. This will help the FS stay inside #1 on a post/curl and not get too far in front of him. Getting eyes on #1 also helps the FS see #2 on a wheel.
VS twins -we do not like to run this type of robber to wide twins (it takes our flat player too far away from the box). Sometimes we will play a cover2 pattern-read or man-free (it depends on what the offense likes to do)and send a LB. We might even go pure man and send the OLB.
In our form of ROBBER the FS is responsble for #2 if #2 goes vertical; the FS will have #2 all alone. If #2 goes to the flat, the OLB has #2 on any short pattern; the FS will have #2 if #2 turns up field. At times we have had the OLB play under #2 on a wheel while the FS played overtop. If #2 goes in/out right now, the FS will help the C by playing inside and ontop of #1.
In MAN-FREE the FS is really not responsibile for anyone. When he gets a pass read, he first looks for crossers. If there are no crossers, he reads the QB's front shoulder as he gets depth. He is truely a centerfielder. In MAN-FREE the OLB has #2 all over the field. The only time the OLB might get some help from the FS is if #2 runs a fade or a post (depending on what other receivers are doing).
I think I omitted something in one of my posts that might clear everything up. We have three different calls for the three different coverages. HAWK is the call for 1/4's pattern-read out of the 8-man front(What many call ROBBER) FREE is the call for traditional man-free with the FS playing centerfield, helping on anyting in the middle ROBBER is the call that tells the corners and OLB's that they are playing man with no help. This call tells the FS that he is more of a run player (he aligns about 6yds deep in the middle of the formation). The only time the FS is concerned with #2's release is HAWK. In ROBBER and MAN-FREE(our terminology) the FS is not really concerned about the release of #2.
When we play cover3, we have the FS read #2's release to get an idea as to whether he has to stay inside and ontop of #2 or to look for #1 coming inside.
Yes, thank you. How deep do you play your FS in FREE?
I do have another question. You said that you are not concerned about #2s release in Robber yet that is who the FS picks up if he goes vertical, wheels, or crosses behind the LBs. Help me with this one.
In FREE the FS plays abot 9-10 yds deep, not any deeper. If you put him any deeper than that, you are playing with 10.
HAWK is the call we use for our pattern-read; this is the coverage where the FS reads #2. #2 to flat - get inside and ontop of #1 - but - if #2 runs a wheel, get ontop of it #2 vertical - lock on #2 #2 shallow inside (under LB's drop) - look for crosser or help corner #2 deep inside (behind LB's drop) - lock on #2 We tell that safety that if he ever becomes confused as to what #2 is doing, simply lock on to #2.
When we are in FREE, the FS is really a deep hole player; after looking for crossers he reads the QB's front shoulder.
I can't thank you enough for your help in clarifying for me and taking the time to answer my questions. If you don't mind I'd like to keep going on this theme. Why do you watch the front shoulder of the QB instead of his eyes? Do you find it easier or a truer read?
You mentioned the following in an thread about Cover 3 techniques. "By the way, we have our DB's read #2 even in cover 3. If you want to know more about this, drop me a line."
You key O-linemen to get your run/pass read while slow shuffling 3 steps back, correct. How do your Corners read #2 from there?
Why do you watch the front shoulder of the QB instead of his eyes? Do you find it easier or a truer read? One simple reason: the QB has to turn his front shoulder toward the man he is throwing to. Think about it. If the QB is throwing to a receiver on the QB's right, he must trun his body to his right in order to get torque in his body. I haven't seen a QB who can point his shoulders one way and throw another. In addition to this ides, a QB can look one way and throw another. I just think this way is truer.
By the way, we have our DB's read #2 even in cover 3. If you want to know more about this, drop me a line." How do your Corners read #2 from there? After C's get a pass read they must get their eyes on #2. If they start at the proper depth, they will be able to see #2 while seeing #1 peripherally. If #2 is coming vertically down the field after the C has taken his 3 read steps, #2 is going vertical. The C knows he must stay over top of #1 (unless #1 runs a short inside route). If #2 goes inside or outside (during the read-step phase), the C knows her must squeeze #1 but don't allow #2 to cross his face. This is eally not a probelm vs a pro or wide slot foramtion. Vs a TE/wing or twins we will change the coverage, we will not always run cover 3.
The FS also read #2 in cover 3. If #2 goes vertical, the FS know he must get over top of #2. If #2 goes outside, the FS knows to look for #1 on a post, curl or dig. There are a couple of other things we do vs #2 inside.
Having the C's and FS read #2 in cover 3, as well as other coverages, has really helped us in that pattern-reading is no big deal. We simply tell the kids whom to read ;what their reactions are to certain patterns; and rep it up. The kids really like the entire concept.
Keep asking question on anything you're not sure about.
Thank you again for clarifying what you do. I'm very glad that you and others share your knowledge. I do not like to change the way I do something without thouroughly researching it. All too often people see something that looks good to them and try to coach it up without learning it inside and out first. That is why I often ask the obvious question.
Also, if anyone has been paying attention to the Radar thread you will notice that the coach who goes by afwayiv is very passionate about it. I just received a playbook on the D from him and I'm sure that many others have also. I would guess that he has spent a lot in postage and I hope that coaches show him appreciation for it. The playbook is very complete, especially considering that it was written in the early 70s. I have emailed electronic information to coaches who have asked for it without trading since it is easy and cheap but I don't know many who will mail out several copies of something without receiving something in return.