Post by kc361 on Feb 4, 2005 11:27:09 GMT
Coaches,
We run the flexbone (+variations) and are committed to multiple options (especially midline, ISV and OSV). We also run counter option with a gap scheme (BSG pulls and logs the 1st defender outside the PST). Many times, the player we are trying to log rushes upfield (once he sees the HB in front of him go in motion) to prevent the counter option from getting to the perimeter. We are looking to run a good QB counter play that can run inside a kickout block by the BSG on the player we normally try to log. Here is what we are thinking...
If we are running the counter to the right...
OL blocks it as a gap scheme with the BSG and BST pulling to the right (BSG kicks out the EMLOS, BST leads up/inside on LB), just like counter trey or whatever it's called now. The RHB or slotback runs in orbit motion, as if he is getting into a pitch relationship for an option to the left. The QB opens left for a dive fake to the RB, who fills for the pulling T. The QB, after the dive fake, turns to the PS using counter option footwork and follows the BST into the hole, along the inside seal of the PST and PSG. The LHB and BSWR block on the perimeter as if it were an option to their side. The PSWR blocks the CB.
Our concerns are (1) Will the QB be too close to the BST to read his block? (2) Is the QB coming from to shallow to make the play as effective as a TB running it? (3) How do we account for the force player to the PS in a 1 safety defense? Do we spin the motion HB back to the PS to block him? Do we reduce the split of the PSWR to block him? Do we have the BST look outside for him (assuming the PST, PSG can block the PSDT and PSLB)? (4) Are we trying to fit a great TB play into a non-TB offense?
Thanks in advance for your replies.
kc361
We run the flexbone (+variations) and are committed to multiple options (especially midline, ISV and OSV). We also run counter option with a gap scheme (BSG pulls and logs the 1st defender outside the PST). Many times, the player we are trying to log rushes upfield (once he sees the HB in front of him go in motion) to prevent the counter option from getting to the perimeter. We are looking to run a good QB counter play that can run inside a kickout block by the BSG on the player we normally try to log. Here is what we are thinking...
If we are running the counter to the right...
OL blocks it as a gap scheme with the BSG and BST pulling to the right (BSG kicks out the EMLOS, BST leads up/inside on LB), just like counter trey or whatever it's called now. The RHB or slotback runs in orbit motion, as if he is getting into a pitch relationship for an option to the left. The QB opens left for a dive fake to the RB, who fills for the pulling T. The QB, after the dive fake, turns to the PS using counter option footwork and follows the BST into the hole, along the inside seal of the PST and PSG. The LHB and BSWR block on the perimeter as if it were an option to their side. The PSWR blocks the CB.
Our concerns are (1) Will the QB be too close to the BST to read his block? (2) Is the QB coming from to shallow to make the play as effective as a TB running it? (3) How do we account for the force player to the PS in a 1 safety defense? Do we spin the motion HB back to the PS to block him? Do we reduce the split of the PSWR to block him? Do we have the BST look outside for him (assuming the PST, PSG can block the PSDT and PSLB)? (4) Are we trying to fit a great TB play into a non-TB offense?
Thanks in advance for your replies.
kc361