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I agree with coach Mays on the 2 points he makes. We also ran our zone with the FB starting from a stacked stance behind the Tackle, also 1/2 yard deeper than QB so he's already moving downhill. When we call "choice" our QB knows to read the DE. He actually always reads the DE and itis responsibility to let us know when he sees a DE who crashes often. Usually the coaches see this first, but I like to try and make my QB think all the time, even when he's just handing off the rock.

Coach,

Making them think is great, but do not make them think so much that it takes away their "natural" ability to make plays. As a long time QB/HC coach, think that sometimes we really tend to over coach the position.
AFTER MAKING SURE THEY HAVE A GOOD SOLID FOUNDATION OF YOUR SYSTEM AND QB FUNDAMENTALS, Let them make plays as their number one job, bar none, is to win.

Coach Easton

tog, I wasn't sure who you were asking, but I know CoachMays and he's a WVU guy also. He may have a different spin though. WVU wants the back to clear the mesh and take two steps on the zone and wants the back wide on alginment. It gives the fast flow look and also gives the QB time to read. We don't like it too wide, again, because of the trap.

For our counter ... I just coached an all-star game this December and we installed some of our stuff. When we ran dart it was a QB keep. The problem I found with one of the QB's was that he was impatient with the mesh. He was flashing and going. I think the most important thing is that the QB be patient and let the LB's react to the mesh.

We're looking at Utah's alignment/steps because I've never seen the back to be able to cut-back very well from that outside position, coming across the QB. It's more of an outside zone. Utah lines the back up a yard deep behind the QB and behind the guard (at least that what it looks like). He takes a flat/45 step inside with his inside foot, gathers with the back foot and goes. We're going to work those steps and also work specific steps for the cut-back and downhill after the mesh.

Urban Meyer is going to be at the Nike, Atlantic City clinic this weekend. I'm hoping to get the backfield alignment/steps from the source then.

tog, I guess you feel like I'm overcoaching or that I'm awful full of myself. I've been breaking down a lot of the Utah cut-ups and have been seeing a pattern in the backfield with the RB's steps with the back both cutting back and him heading downhill. I'm into footwork and patterns. We do a lot of ladder work in the offseason because of this and work a lot of drills with the backs during individual time in-season with pattern movements. I consider it no different than a stimulus response that we would teach our d end with his reads on the offensive tackle. As for being full of myself, it may come across that way, but I'm throwing things out just as much for myself as for others. I use the message boards to organize my own thoughts and make sure I can explain things well. I have a word document that I set up and copy posts that I don't want to forget - both mine and others. Not real sure how to take your post though - there was no LOL attached.

Geez, I'm sorry. Really I am. As you know being on message boards sometimes guys get going. I'm sorry. I hadn't heard it that way ... and actually I like the term now that I understand it.

I want the back to clear and for the QB to visually pick up the puller in front of him. Once both of those have happened, he goes. It was a great experience to try and put some of our stuff in in such a short period of time in that all-star game. It taught me to really condense what's important. Some stuff I just took for granted. It was like starting all over from scratch.

I feel bad about the miscommunication. Sorry again.

I'm probably not the one to ask for input on that one. We stopped running the dart with the back early on. I just felt like he was getting stuck in the backfield witht the change of direction and things weren't quick enough. We found we liked it better with the QB keeping. We also tried to balance out the plays between the two (RB and QB) and felt we'd give that one to the QB.

Now, we may go back and look at it again with the Utah alignment. It becomes a more downhill play and the RB can keep square. Now that I think about it, it sounds like a good one. It would break some tendencies with our alignment. You'd be reading the opposite d end and optioning the other side. I like the concept your working on.

Longtigercat,

You are the Man!

Gentlemen,

Tog has been banned from the board. Sad day at JCFB.com. Best wishes to tog, you helped me out a ton on the gun offense.

JD

For negitive posts. Sad day at JCFB.com!!!! Some coaches seem to have more pull than others.

JD