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Post by Coach Tinglof on Mar 31, 2005 14:22:08 GMT
Coach,
Running 4 across can disguise coverages and help in reading also for the safeties. We run a multiple 40 front based out of the 4-3 and have run different alignments with the secondary and different coverages. You just need to make sure your safeties know there responsibilities and don't cross up coverages. Good luck.
This 4-across secondary concept is a key component to our base defense. From it, you can get 9 defenders dedicated to the run depending on your reads and alignments, while at the same time disguising so many different coverages:
Lochness, brought about another advantage. The nine man box. Often we will cheat our safeties into a five yard territory, especially if we do not feel threatened with the forward pass, or if we know that our athletes are that much better than theirs where they can recover if they bite on a playfake.
Lou Cella
Head Varsity Football Coach
Greater Nanticoke Area High School (PA)
We do exactly the same thing. Against most 2 RB / 1 TE teams, Wing-T teams, or (obviously) double wing or straight T teams, we go 4-across and put both safeties in invert / overhang alignments at about 5-5 1/2 yards. We've never had a problem. We may get beat in the middle 1/3 once or twice a season if we did not rotate properly, but that's a small price to pay for shutting down the run.
People often forget that safeties are there to stop the run, too. So many coaches are tunnelled into believing that all safeties do is stop the pass. In high school football, there are so many occasions where the linebackers don't make the play. The safeties are the last line of defense. They NEED to make the play. The 4 across secondary is so easy to teach and really works well.
Lou Cella
Head Varsity Football Coach
Greater Nanticoke Area High School (PA)
Coach, How do you play vs formations? In other words, do you roll to cover 3 or stay 1/4's most of the time. many of the teams in our league play a slant 50 and roll the coveage opposite with good results. Just wondering what you played vs 1 , 2 and no back. Thanks
Coach, we NEVER play cover 3 when we are in our 4-across secondary. We play cover 1, occasionally cover 2, and cover 21 vs. trips. If you check into our other discussion on 4-across play, I get into more detail. We NEVER play cover 3, and we don't ROLL into ANYTHING.
I used to like the slant-50. However, my experience has taught me that a dominant nose defeating the center's base block controls the game better. I don't run the slant-50 anymore. The slant-50 works, but my question has always been-- what if a team gives you double tight or open? Now what? You can slant to the 2-receiver side, but you are all to often playing russian roulette with your defense. I want my nose to kill the center and my defensive tackles to get penetration. I hope this helps Nick, and I would look to discussing this further, if possible.
Lou Cella
Head Varsity Football Coach
Greater Nanticoke Area High School (PA)
Just curious: Why not run the cover 3 out of the 4-across look? The only reason I ask is because that is what we base our coverage on. We rotate to QB action in our base cover 3, which we run 80% of the time. We never run man-to-man. We also run quarters and 1/4, 1/4, 1/2, as well as some cover 2 variants.
Just curious as to why you've chosen to do what you do.
In my opinion, for simplicity and coachability, it's easier to lock onto people than drop into zones. The confusion always arises is who drops into which zone and how to adjust to motion. Occasionally, I will run cover 2 and I will run cover 4. They are not difficult to run. Cover 3 requires too much knowledge of formations and how to adjust with motion, shifting, etc. Lochness, do whatever you feel is right. The best coaches run the systems they know best, and if that's what you do best-- do it! Good luck coach.
Lou Cella
Head Varsity Football Coach
Greater Nanticoke Area High School (PA)
We've not really had the types of athletes who are good at covering in man situations, but we have had some very football saavy secondary athletes, so it's always worked for us. Our primary adjusters in our defense are our secondary people.
Like you said...whatever works for the kids best. In the future if we start getting different types of athletes in the secondary, we'll probably have to go something similar to what you are using!
Your ideas sound very similar to what I am thinking. Do you have anything on paper I could look at? I'm curious as to how you respond to different formations.
Go to 4 spoke secondary. I have not implemented this scheme yet, but I am very interested. I do not like the twins defense, but besides that, I like it.
We do have a defensive playbook, but I'm not comfortable sharing it, mainly because I am not the author. Our DC (and one of my best friends) labored long and hard on our book.
I'd be happy to share any info you want in conversation, however.
Lochness and pbonw, What we do to help our DB's is we only read the QB not the man, this has giving us great success with it, we will run it more this year.
QB's in high school 90% won't look off that man or the direction they are going in, but even still reading the QB actually helps with the zone placement.
I do a drill call 8-11-17. WE line up 8 yards off, because the first 2 to 3 steps should be reading run or pass it should put them at around 11 yards and they have 6 more yards to back peddle before they need to turn there hips and run.
It helps to give the DB's a feel for when to turn there hips and works in the game. Once the ball is in the air, we tell them to lean back on the WR, use the sideline as your friend.
We play some 4-2-5 last year and it hurt us in the pass and we went back to the 52 slant, which works perfect for us.
Is your cover 2 sky where you bring the safety up for run support and the corner plays deep half? If so, what coaching points do you have for the deep half corner?
From our base double invert look, it has our safeties playing flats / run support and our CB's playing deep 1/2's. I'll be dead honest coach we really don't run this coverage a lot. Maybe against a Straight T or Double Wing team as a change up. We're pretty much always in some form of cover 3 rotation or in cover 4.
I don't actually coach the CB's, I just coach the safeties (we specialize because of the tremendous variation in skills needed at our safety position because of our double invert system), but I'm certain the coaching point is "get your butt back there and don't expect any help!!"
pbonw, We run basically a Cover 3 Cloud and Sky and I would like to throw another type of cover 3 look in there or run a cover 2 robber and yes our weak end drops to flats.
I am a big fan of the the double robber coverage as I think it really involves your safeties. Do you guys run this coverage out of a slanting front? If so, do you send an OLBer, than who has the flats? That is my big concern in running this coverage as I am not sure how to cover flats and get more than a 3 man pressure out of our 3-4 scheme.
Considering that there are 3 deep zones and 5 underneath zones to cover, I would have to say that you will need to give up one of the zones to get that 4th rusher from an OLB. You then have 2 options.
1. You can blitz the weak side LB either by formation or strength, depending on the slanting.
2. You can etermine what zone you want to give up based on your opponents tendencies.
What type of teams do you play and what type of personnel are you utilizing?