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Can someone explain to me the difference between a 5-2 Eagle front vs a 5-2 Montser? ANy information on the two defenses would be greatly apprecaited. Thanks
we see 52 quite a bit with double safeties who "roll up" with run support. this has given us some problems. But I personally love to see the monster look because we are balanced and simply go the other way.
The eagle is just the T's moving from a 4 tech to a 3 tech.
how do you cover the weakside flats in the 5-2 monster look (assuming you are running cover 3 behind it). We've always had a problem with that, unless we dropped our weakside end, because our Will could never get there. We eventually just started balancing up and playing the 5-3 when we wanted to go cover three, and played cover 2 with the 5-2 look. What do you think?
WEAKSIDE DE in a 5-2/MONSTER must drop just like the OLB in a 3-4 (EXACT SAME THING)!
PS: The Original "EAGLE" defense as played BY the Philly Eagles in the 1940's had:
2 = Loose 9 technique ends slashing down off the hip of the TE (or "ghost").
2 = DT's in 4I's PINCHING to 3 techniques (we just lined them up in 3's).
1 = 0 Tech. Nose (two gappping double A Gaps).
2 = ILB's in almost on LOS (about 18" deep) in 7 techniques to deliver a blow on the TE (on SE side the LB walked out & the DE came in to a loose 5).
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You can find THIS, as well as the ORIGINAL 5-2 Okie in "MODERN DEFENSIVE FOOTBALL" by Bud Wilkinson & Gomer Jones. Although written in 1957, it is STILL the best book I EVER read on defensive football!
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Weak DE can have contain-rush responsibility, but then peel off to cover a back if one goes out to his side. As in a "thumbs" call in 46 terminology (the 46 is a direct descendent of Greasy Neale's "Eagle" defense described by Coach Mountjoy above).
You are exactly correct - this was Greasy Neale's original "Eagle" defense. I knew some of his players (Dick Humbert, Pete Pihos, & Ken Keuffel). We used that as a back up to the base 5-2 Okie on passing downs in both HS & College! We ALSO ran a GREAT 6-1 out of the Okie by putting our biggest LBer in a 2 or 3 on one of the Guards & putting the Nose in a 2 or 3 on the other Guard. The quickest LBer became the MLB (the other 8 players remained the same as the Okie)!
The book I mentioned above is the FIRST to DETAIL both the Okie & Eagle defenses. It is a virtual ENCYLOPEDIA of Defensive Football, with chapters on the 4-3, 5-3, Wide Tackle 6, Tight Tackle 6, 7 Diamond, Goal Line Defenses, (as WELL as the 5-2 Okie & the 5-2 Eagle)!
PS: MANY 5-2/Monster teams in those days would "Eagle" the split end side (OUT of the 5-2 Okie) so the LBer could cover the back out (flat, etc.) & the DE could STILL rush. We mixed that in with DROPPING the 5-2 Okie DE opposite the Monster, depending on who we played, etc.!
Seems like centuries ago we played like that, doesn't it? I used to love the "crash End- Drop End" scheme
and got a lot of INT's from that philosophy. I still ran the 52 Eagle Weak (eagled the DE from a 5 to a 4 and the 4 to a 2 on the backside, not to a 3. Put the LB's where they could plug the hole created by the maneuver as I thought having 2 3's invited running the bubble to be handled by the Mike alone a bit much at times.) right up until 2005, my last active on field coaching year.
Coach Easton-TIGER ONE
J.C. EASTON<BR>HEAD COACH<BR>GA TIGERS FOOTBALL<BR>PROFESSIONAL MINOR LEAGUE
Those were GREAT schemes in those days! Depending on HOW you played your secondary - it could be a little hard to adjust to shifts & motions (drop Ends became Rush ends; contain Tackles became inside rush Tackles; The Nose's pass rush lanes changed sides; ETC.). Much of this occurred when the Secondary checked a 3 deep Monster (or "3/Sky") from "LEFT" to "RIGHT" as the offense shifted and/or went in motion.
That's why we took Lou Hottz' advice in 1985 & went to a 4-4 (4 guys on each side of the ball with 3 deep behind it). No significant adjustments were necessary!
My thinking exactly when I went to the Dallas 42 (4-2-5). Puts 8 in the wide box and gives you a 3 deep secondary. But, rather than show a normal cover # 3 PSL alignment, I always chose to roll my CB's up hard with inside leverage and play bump and run 900% of the time. But, the defense is always balanced as it should be, by keeping the FS in the MOF and when you run up against these option teams, you have their QB in a bind already because there is no such thing as "pick a side" to gain a numbers advantage in the PSL.
Jerry
J.C. EASTON<BR>HEAD COACH<BR>GA TIGERS FOOTBALL<BR>PROFESSIONAL MINOR LEAGUE
To be semantically correct in my training, the term EAGLE applies to the backside and the term REDUCTION is applied to similar action on the frontside. If both these actions occur simultaneously on the front and backside, then the term DOUBLE EAGLE is applicable and correct.
Coach Easton-TIGER ONE
J.C. EASTON<BR>HEAD COACH<BR>GA TIGERS FOOTBALL<BR>PROFESSIONAL MINOR LEAGUE
Jerry - as you have said so many times semantics are SO different from coach to coach.
To US - reduction can be on EITHER side as long as the B gap is played by a DLM. That also holds true in the Eagle. 5-2 teams that Eagles either OR both sides were considered to have "reduced". We use the term "RED" for the reduced side of a defense, & "WHITE" where there is NO reduction (B gap defended by a LBer)!