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GCTIGERS57
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OL personnel question Apr 19, 2005 11:05:12 GMT

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Post by GCTIGERS57 on Apr 19, 2005 11:05:12 GMT

Coaches,

Traditionally, OT's are usually the bigger stronger OL on the LOS. I am flirting with the idea of putting my bigger guys at Guard this year. We are a run and shoot / option team running out of double slot and trips. We typically see a 40 front with the DT's of most teams being stronger than our G's. In addition, when we slide protect, out big & slow OT kicks out to block a more athletic player while our smaller quicker G's are blocking bigger and more physical lineman. In the past, I have been apart of programs that incorporate a TE into the set and we saw more 50 fronts than we do now. So I always had my big guys at OT.

I would like some input on this.

tog Senior Member Posts: 870	OL personnel question Apr 19, 2005 11:08:40 GMT Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top Post by tog on Apr 19, 2005 11:08:40 GMT I like more athletic ot's and bigger guards. We run a lot of counter gt and need our more athletic types at ot to pass pro and reach some on our zone stuff we need our guards for drilling de's into the ground
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OL personnel question Apr 19, 2005 11:12:45 GMT

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Post by TIGER ONE on Apr 19, 2005 11:12:45 GMT

Coach,

I have done it for many seasons with success!!! It all really depends upon the INDIVIDUAL abilities of those making the switch. If your going to trap folks, take that into consideration also vs. the quick guards vs. the big slower ones. Just a thought, as always.

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OL personnel question Apr 19, 2005 12:14:00 GMT

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Post by NoExcuses on Apr 19, 2005 12:14:00 GMT

We went to the that concept three years ago and had great success!! We are an option team. It really helped us out controlling the outside edge. But it also helped our power game, because of the bigger guards and the vertical push they produce. Also it helped us pick up the blitzes. Just do to the fact with bigger guards, the window that the LBers are blitzing through becomes smaller. I love this concept!

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GCTIGERS57 Senior Member Posts: 506	OL personnel question Apr 19, 2005 12:48:20 GMT Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top Post by GCTIGERS57 on Apr 19, 2005 12:48:20 GMT thank you for all the positive feedback! I am going to give this a go for 2005!

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OL personnel question Apr 19, 2005 12:58:51 GMT

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Post by Oriole Power on Apr 19, 2005 12:58:51 GMT

Coach,

I agree with your concern. I made the switch last year and it helped us a lot more. Pass protection it helped it also helped us on run blocking against the 40 because our tackles would release to LB move often.

As a coach it is your call to make. Put your athletes in the best position for success.

Excellent Choice.
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OL personnel question Apr 25, 2005 9:31:12 GMT

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Post by lochness on Apr 25, 2005 9:31:12 GMT

Coach,

I think it depends on three very specific details:

1. What kind of system are you running and what is it most important for your OL to be doing?

2. What is the most common defensive front you are seeing? If it is a 40, then you are good to have the larger OG's. If it is a 30 / 50, then you are good to have the larger OT's.

3. Put your best 5 linemen on the field. Not your 2 best guards and your 2 best tackles and the best center. If 4 of your best offensive linemen are guards, then move 2 of them to other positions and adapt your offensive philosophy if needed. They say you need to build the offense around your QB, but I've always (at least at the HS level) built my offense around my OL.

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OL personnel question Apr 25, 2005 9:45:39 GMT

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Post by TIGER ONE on Apr 25, 2005 9:45:39 GMT

Lochness,

Not a bad philosophy at all. Being a QB coach, I know that the QB is the single most important offensive player on the field, without a doubt. But, on the other hand, you can have the greatest QB in the world and if your line can't protect him, you have zip for an offense!!! Much like the fact that he can be the best thrower you have laid eyes on and yet if you have no receivers who can catch the football, what good is it??? Played QB long enough to know that without the supporting cast, your not going to win much!!!

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OL personnel question Apr 28, 2005 7:59:13 GMT

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Post by groundchuck on Apr 28, 2005 7:59:13 GMT

IMO...the most important single position on the field is QB (in most offenses). The most important unit on offense is the OL. If the "football genie" appeared and granted me the choice between a blue-chip QB or 2-3 blue chip OLM with other adequate kids I would pick the latter every time. You win with your lines.

I agree with lochness' point. Put your 5 best OL on th field regardless of G/T/C. Just so long as one of them can snap really well. Then build around that.

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OL personnel question Apr 28, 2005 10:52:36 GMT

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Post by TIGER ONE on Apr 28, 2005 10:52:36 GMT

I interviewed for a HC job in the Arena 1 League. I was asked: In your opinion who are the three most important players on any football team. Without hesitation I replied QUARTERBACK, PUNTER, PLACE KICKER. The interviewer said: Thats funny, I was just talking with Tom Coughlin (who was the HC for the Jacksonville Jaguars at the time) this morning and he told me those same exact three guys! I just kind of smiled and replied: That's pretty common knowledge amongst football coaches, sir. The next question is always: What about this position, or the lines, or some other position??? OL is where the offense rests it's case. It all starts with the OL on that side of the ball!!!

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OL personnel question Apr 29, 2005 13:01:48 GMT

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Post by 757575 on Apr 29, 2005 13:01:48 GMT

Wow, after reading the post, I feel as if I am being tossed to and fro. I was a HOG (offensive lineman) all my life. My position of choice & responsibility are the HOGS. I would rather run the football all day, than flirt with the pass. Arena football is boring, and passing is for queers. I would rather watch golf than Utah's offense, but I have come to the realization, as an OC, that you need skill players to win. Ya, what would the world be like without Boy George and Michael? Kiddin aside, You need a QB. I guy that can lead his troops. A guy that could sell a katsup popsicle to a man in a white suit (Tommy Boy). Yes, and you need the forward pass as well.

So, if a geenie came and asked me for a blue-chip player at any position...it would be QB. Then, give me my HOGS and let's have some fun!

Thanks for the fun question.

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Post by GCTIGERS57 on Apr 19, 2005 11:05:12 GMT

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