Installing Today’s Hybrid Pistol Offense Run & Pass from Top to Bottom
This manual provides you with the full offensive line, receiver, and quarterback mechanics for installing each offensive play presented. Coach Campbell has left no stone unturned for implementing today’s Pistol Offense into your program.
Post by zonereadfootball on Apr 21, 2005 19:26:50 GMT
I just returned from attending the UNLV football practice and clinic sessions that Sanford put on in Las Vegas. It was amazing to actually get on the practice field and watch the installation and timing of the way he runs his offense. The day consisted of having access to game film from Utah last year and practice film from UNLV's summer program. Then we were allowed to sit in on postion meetings, then they had their full practice and then Sanford held a mini clinic session in which he answered any questions people had. The next day we sat in the film office and watch film cut-ups for the entire day. So if anyone has any questions on the offense, etc I would be more than happy to give you what I can. This session really answered alot of the questions I had on this offense. If you would like to put up your email address or pm it to me I would be willing to exchange info that way.
Thanks alot, just looking to help out fellow coaches
I'm also looking at installing elements of this offense. I spoke with one of the coaches at UNLV over the phone about a week ago in hopes of snagging some Utah game film but was told that might be tough to do. He mentioned the clinic, but unfortunately I'm on the east coast and it's a bit tough to get out west.
Coach would love to get any information you could pass along. We will be running this offense next year and would love to get a look at what you got. Thanks Tim Dycus
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zoneread Can you give some details on the shovel. I'm not looking for the scheme info. Looking for the coaching points on the timing in the backfield. Do you have any key phrases that they use for:
The shovel receiver aiming point and guidelines about his depth from the LOS, his relationship with the QB and/or the pulling guard.
How fast the QB presses the perimeter and do they have rules as to what point he must make a decision on the shovel. Will he slow the play down in the backfield if his read has not made a deliberate decision, etc.
If you have anything for the pitch back ... but I don't think that one is too difficult.
Post by zonereadfootball on Apr 25, 2005 17:45:12 GMT
Tiger cat here are a few of the notes and points that I took down from UNLV on the shovel pass. They run two different shovel plays, one being called regular shovel and another being called T-shovel. The differance being who the shovel guy is:
6/7 Shovel Shovel man would be the slot wr coming down the los. It may be the slot motioning across the formation and then back or the slot away from the playside running the shovel. Shovel runner should bubble back off the los to 3 yds to get into shovel phase, follow guards outside hip and look to round the double team by the pst and psg, The shovel runner should get down hill, not flat, should recieve shovel between a gap and b gap, looking to recieve shovel about 1 yard deep from los
Qb is always flat and pushing the sideline, toes at 5 yards deep, Read de, if he stretches with you continue to widen and shovel, if he squeezes run the speed option, If he wants to slow play go ahead and run speed option
T-Shovel T-shovel is where the tailback is going to be the shovel man. Almost takes what looks like a counter step but is simply a jab with outside foot then gets into shovel phase, gets down hill not flat, since this is a different shovel path for the tailback out of the backfield it helps to get that jab step in there and to get into the correct phase, unlike the slot man having to bubble back to 3 yards the rb is automatically there and just gets down hill, looking for the hip of the guard and hugging that double team, shoulders should be up field and under control, look at recieving the shovel about 1 yard deep from the los and about 4 yards from the qb, Qb's toes are still at 5 yds and he is going FLAT to the sideline looking to stretch the de
Coach this what I got from his clinic and I hoped it helped you on what you had questions with, fill free to ask some more if needed. Thanks
Post by zonereadfootball on Apr 25, 2005 17:59:07 GMT
Something that I have been working on myself is a variation of the Utah shovel play. If you look at the blocking scheme they are using on the is shovel play I tried to play with a way to get some misdirection going the opposite direction we were running the shovel. This being to make the lb to freeze just for that one moment. Heres what I came up with and we are going to be running both the Utah shovel and what I call the Counter shovel. Let me know what you think.
Using our gun two back set with the slot to the right side, we are going to run a gt couter blocking scheme. Using a 4-2 look it will be the normall playside double, center fill, guard kick out, tackle up threw, your normal gt counter blocking. But in the backfield I have the back set to the right running what looks like inside zone read, with the slot man on the right backpedeling to get into pitch phase. The rb getting the zone fake will continue hard with his fake and fill for the pulling takle. The rb on the left is going to basically take a lead, jab step with his outside foot making it look like he is going to kick out the de where the tackle was pulling from, we run a gun power play where it looks just like this action. The back that jab steps or counter steps, then becomes the shovel man and gets into shovel phase. Follow me?
The qb has an automatic pull on this play as we are not reading anything, but still has the same action as the Utah shovel, he stretches flat to the sideline, has his option man with the playside slot backpedel into pitch relationship and now usally ends up pitching to the shovel runner since he has the gt coming around blocking on the counter scheme.
As far as timing wise the qb is still riding his fake to the tb to give the backside tb time to counter step and get in shovel phase.
That the beauty of coaching High school football vs College, you can get away with alot more than you can at that level. Let me know what you think
i would love to get your notes on the unlv clinic/camp. i have been searching everywhere to amass as much information as i can on the offense. i have a pretty good playbook on the offense. a high school from way up north. please let me know how i can attain your notes. thanks
coach n
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Post by zonereadfootball on May 1, 2005 17:59:13 GMT
If you have any questions in regards to any of the Utah/Unlv offensive plays go ahead and just post them up on the board. You will get some great answers from a variety of good coaches. I did attend the UNLV practice and clinic but it might be easier to share the wealth on the board than to email everyone. I would be more than happy to help answer any questions. Ex: triple option, shovel, speed, oscar, read pitch, te blocking, goaline package etc. We are in the process of installing this offense full time this year so we have come up with our own terminoly and verbage etc. It is a tough offense to organize because of all the formations and motions that we like to use. Let me know if anyone elso is running this full time. Would like to talk and match some stuff up if possible.
zonereadfootball: so you are essentially running the option to the side your g at t are pulling from. am i correct? so you are trying to influence the lb and get them to false key. let me know if i am understanding correctly.
from what has been said earlier, utah liked to run triple vs. the 3-3. would this be vs. a head up tackle (four) or threes. i am assuming they would still run the 16-17 shovel vs. double threes.
also did coach sanford and utah run any kind of qb counter off this series?
coach n
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Post by zonereadfootball on May 2, 2005 16:49:44 GMT
Coachn, the play that I was talking about above is a counter shovel that we came up with after watching the way Utah ran there regular shovel. The one negative thing about the regular shovel is that there is no misdirection or counter look to get the d to freeze. They are simply trying to stretch out the d and run underneath. Well by faking the inside zone to the 3 hole and running the shovel to the 4 hole you have created a counter look. Basically is 24 gt counter. With the fake hopefully the lb will flow with it and we log them off with the counter blocking. Most high school kids arent reading pulling lineman in my opinion.
Now coach when you are refering to the triple are you talking about the shovel or the zone read option play. By what Sanford calls the triple option he is running the inside zone fake, qb keep or qb option. Thats what they call the triple. Some people are calling the shovel the triple option which was really confusing to our staff for awhile. So we are trying to stick with somewhat the same terminology as them. In response to your question about running the plays vs a 3-3 look, honestly I didnt pay a whole lot of attention on the way he was schemeing against that. Where I coach at we will never see a 3-3 the whole year. Its just not ran very much at all here. If you want a good look at the way they blocked that d get ahold of the Utah vs. BYU game from 04. BYU ran that against them and was somewhat successfull I believe.
As far as the qb counters from the package I was really surprised to see that he did not run any counter at all. Or if he did I totally missed them. They did run what would be the closet thing to a counter with the qb and they called it Q wrap. The didnt run it a whole lot but when they did they were pretty successfull with it. Basically its the exact same play as what people also call dart or zone t. Its where the backside tackle pulls and leads up through for the qb after he fakes to the rb.
Get ahold of Tog! I believe he is the master at this scheme. I never heard about it until talking to him. I think its a good scheme and we are going to install it this year.
Coach, I would like to see what you have as well. I have a ton of Utah game film as well as game cut ups of just the run game and I have the UNLV clinic film that is over 3 HRS long. I would like to know what you have to offer from the clinic and practice. What I am really looking for in drills, practice installation and coaching points. My email is KRogerson@hvc.rr.com Coach Wright
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karjaw: i would appreciate any help you can give me on the offense. tog: i should be able to get some of the stuff we talked about in the mail very soon. sorry, for the delayed response. school is now out, and i finally have some free time. coachn
"Tradition means nothing unless you work as hard as those who built the tradition."