Offensive Info

Regarding the running game, those of you that run balanced or pass heavy offenses, how many runs do you usually carry? Currently I am in the process of compiling a list of runs which I will pare down. I would like to hear some lists of runs carried by multiple spread teams.

Inside zone
Stretch
Dart
Trap
Jet sweep
dabble in speed option

JD

Inside & outside (stretch) zone
wb toss
wb ct
fb ct trey
fb trap
iso
jet
gut
red light
jet reverse
option (triple, speed)
QB sweep, choice (I believe what others call "Dart")

Writing it out, it seems like a lot of run plays, but we are balanced and still use all these runs every game.

Nothing more expedient on getting the ball to the perimeter than a hitch!!! MUCH FASTER THAN ANY SWEEP GOING THAT I KNOW OF.

Coach Easton

Hey Tog,

My point simply being that there are very few guys who can run the sweep to the perimeter faster than a THROWN FOOTBALL can get there. I really do believe in my years, I have seen more fumbles on the mesh with a QB/RB than dropped hitch passes. All in how you look at I guess, agreed?

JC

spread

do you run the redlight like a rocket behid the qb and toss it? or is it just a slowed down type power play?
i am still learning the elrod stuff and learning how they call everything (a lot of that stuff just sounds chinese to me)

tiger, i think the jet might be just as good to get to the edge, and I don't think it takes a super fast guy out of the gun (it would help obviously) but, at our level, getting a good jet handoff is a lot easier than throwing and catching a hitch (at least percentagewise)

we do good with the hitch, i don't know what the percentage is, but we catch most of them

the jets, we don't have problems with much at all on the handoff, and when we do, the qb just picks it up and follows the jet guy anyway, which is one of our better plays anyway, unlike if we drop a hitch, or if it gets tipped and picked off,

it is just a safer play IMO

probably not as quick as a hitch, but the jet guy gets out there pretty darn fast as he is moving full speed at the snap

The gun runs that we have implemented in our game plan as of now are:

rb / qb gt counter read
rb / qb dart or zone t (we are going to call it q wrap or r wrap)
zone read
zone read triple option
shovel
counter shovel
power read
veer option
wing counter
quick pitch
shovel draw
lead draw


As of right now we are still meeting on which ones to eliminate from our list. We are agreed that the first nine are for sure in the plan but the last three are up for debate. Heck if were in gun we have to make room to throw the ball also. We are going to be in gun 90% this year.

Tog: We run the Red Light just like the jet, except the ball carrier turns up into the b/c gap following the fb. In essence, it ends up looking like an old-fashioned iso. Sorry it took me so long to reply.

The way we block Red Light from under center or out of the Gun is the same. The rules are as follows v. 4-4:
PSWB-On to outside (most likely the OLB, dependeing on alignment may fold under PST and inside/out the OLB)
FST-On to outside
PSG-On, Gap, b.s. backer
C-Gap to b.s. backer
BSG-Gap to 2nd level
BST-2nd level

The ballcarrier goes in jet motion and meshes w/QB then plants hard with his outside foot, picks up the FB's lead block on the ILB and breaks off this block. The threat of jet sweep sets up the defenders and gives the blockers great angles. Bruce Cobleigh from Harrison H.s. in Georgia is the expert on this play.

Our QB just pass sets after the give, and no I've never turned this into a QB power, but it looks like it could be possible.