Installing Today’s Hybrid Pistol Offense Run & Pass from Top to Bottom
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Post by Coach Nicholson on Apr 30, 2005 11:40:46 GMT
Coaches,
I understand the oline rules for the full outside and inside zone plays but I have some questions concerning the use of zone principles on power plays. Here are the simplest rules I have found on this site for full zone plays.
EVERYONE- IF YOU ARE UNCOVERED ZONE WITH YOUR TEAM MATE PLAYSIDE. EVERYONE- IF YOU ARE COVERED LOOK BACKSIDE. #1- IF YOUR TEAM MATE BACKSIDE IS UNCOVERED, ZONE WITH HIM. #2- IF YOUR TEAMMATE BACKSIDE IS COVERED, MAN BLOCK.
Now, it is my understanding that these rules would not be sound on power plays such as ISO thru B gap. Say you are faceing a 44 defense with a 4 tech and a 2I tech backside, 3 tech and 9 tech playside. The best way I have found to block this is to have backside OT base the 4 tech, backside G and C combo up to Will backer, playside G base the 3 tech and playside T and TE combo up to Sam backer. Fullback leading thru on Mike backer.
The reason I just explained that blocking scheme is to ask you guys what kind of simple rules you use to teach your kids zone blocking on power plays?? Is there a certain rule you give them to hang there hat on that will work regardless of how the defense lines up??
Get the Alex Gibbs tapes that have been circulating around. On what he calls "FORCE" - he leads thru (ISOS) on ZONE plays BEAUTIFULLY. Get tape from Davis @ lgcuban@comcast.net
As to what many call "POWER" in College & the NFL today - it is the COUNTER blocking, but kicking out with H or FB, & leading backside G thru. Great tape on this is Russ Grimms' tape (from the 2000 C.O.O.L clinic)
PS: The COUNTER (as originally conceived by the Redskins in 1981 or 1982) was a counter OFF the Inside Zone! Complimented the IZ!
The POWER/COUNTER game as taught by most NFL teams does not incorporate ZONE BLOCKING asd you described in your first post.
The Zone rules (as used on INSIDE/OUTSIDE zones are essentialls stepping PLAYSIDE. The POWER COUNTER rules essentially gap down (taking double teams where available). These are as follows:
COUNTER/POWER BLOCKING RULES:
PLAYSIDE (ALL) = A) IF YOUR INSIDE TEAMMATE IS UNCOVERED — COMBO WITH YOUR OUTSIDE TEAMMATE FROM THE MAN ON YOU TO THE BACKSIDE LB. B) IF YOUR INSIDE TEAMATE IS COVERED — COMBO WITH YOUR INSIDE TEAMMATE FROM THE MAN ON HIM TO THE BACKSIDE LB. NOTE: GAP BLOCK VS. "SOLID LOOK".
CENTER = 1ST MAN ON LOS OFFSIDE
OFFSIDE GUARD = A) COUNTER = TRAP EMLOS; B) POWER = LEAD THRU ON PLAYSIDE LB
OFFSIDE TACKLE = SQUEEZE B GAP & HINGE ON EDGE RUSHER
H = A) COUNTER = LEAD THRU ON PLAYSIDE LB; B) POWER = TRAP (KICK) EMLOS
NOTE: If running it to TE side - his rule is block down if man on ON T. If ON T uncovered - go thru to MLB area. The rules above handle the rest of the assignments, whether run to TE OR SE side.
CHECK OUT THE TAPE YOU HAVE - YOU WILL SEE IT IN ACTION!
PS: If what you are interested in is leading a back thru (LIKE an Iso off Inside Zone action) - many people do that. Here is Jim Donnan's version (ewx HFC at Georgia):
Running the Ball Between the Tackles
The Inside Zone play, which we called 34 or 35 T gut, designating a tight end side run, gave us the opportunity to come off the ball, handle a variety of looks on defense, and take advantage of attacking different areas of the defense, according to how the defense responded to our backfield action and blocking up front.
Backfield
This is our inside zone play. T-Gut tells us that we are running to the TE side out of 2 Backs.
FB: Good open step clearing the QB reading the first down lineman from Tackle in. Checking Backer to SS.
TB: Good open step downhill. Shoulder square to LOS reading the first down lineman from Tackle in.
Jim Donnan was the head coach at the University of Georgia from 1996 -2000. His offenses showed great balance in run and pass. The Inside Zone play, 34/35 T Gut, was a key to their running game. Jim Donnan was the head coach at the University of Georgia from 1996 -2000. His offenses showed great balance in run and pass. The Inside Zone play, 34/35 T Gut, was a key to their running game.
Alignment
FB: Alignment—We want to be 5 yards deep behind Center, three-point stance.
TB: Alignment—We want to be 7 yards deep behind Center.
Coaching Points:
FB: You need to make sure and clear the QB's path—reading the block like you were running the ball.
TB: Don't run away from QB or set to wide—read the First Down Lineman from Tackle in.
Quarterback: Open to 4 o'clock and seat the ball; drive ball as deep as possible to RB. Naked fake after hand-off to landmark. Possible pass set-up after hand-off. Eyes on backside LB.
Naked fake is the key to this play!
Wide Receivers:
Backside: Block inside Flat Area to middle. Backside ½ Man Coverage, Release
Frontside: One receiver: Block Corner, Alert to 10 yards.
Rule: Inside Receiver = Most dangerous. Man Coverage: Release.
Offensive Line
Line Splits: Normal
Front Side Tackle : Block 2
Covered by a Down Lineman:
OG Covered: Block man over, 5 tech outside number, 4 tech down the middle, 4I (Alert Over)
OG Uncovered: Base Slip, 5 tech outside number, 4 tech down the middle, 4I outside number.
Covered by a LB or Uncovered:
Deep step with outside foot, never taking your eyes of the LB. If down lineman works into you, shove him over to TE. If LB disappears, make an over call to TE.
Front Side Guard : Block number1
The Inside Zone, while starting out to the Tight end side of the line, can bend back anywhere between the tackles.
Covered by a Down Lineman:
OC Covered: Block man over, 3 tech outside number, 2 tech outside number
OC Uncovered: Base Slip, 3 tech outside numbernumber, 2 tech outside number
Covered by a LB or Uncovered:
Base Slip step with outside foot, never taking your eyes off of the LB. If down lineman works into you, take him over. If down lineman stays or works outside, snap to playside LB.
Center: Block number0 to Playside:
Covered by a NG:
Step with proper foot to playside number. Keep shoulder square to LOS. If B.S. Guard is covered by a LB or uncovered, "A Block" base slip up to B.S. LB. If B.S. Guard is covered, you will block the NG man. (Alert Gaps)
Covered by a LB: Base slip with F.S. Guard; take a step with your playside foot, never taking your eyes off the LB. If down lineman works into you, take him over. If down lineman stays or works outside, snap to middle LB.
Uncovered: With F.S. Guard, step with playside foot and take half of the down lineman and double team him into the playside LB.
Back Side Guard: Block number 1:
The Inside Zone can be run from 2 tights, with the backside tight end, here on the left side, replacing the fullback in the blocking scheme. The Inside Zone can be run from 2 tights, with the backside tight end, here on the left side, replacing the fullback in the blocking scheme.
Covered by a Down Lineman:
OT covered: Block man over, step with your inside foot to the inside number of the down lineman.
OT uncovered: Quick Slip with Tackle, step with your inside foot to the inside number of down lineman. If down lineman works into you, lock on and drive. If down lineman works out, come up on backside LB.
Covered by a LB or Uncovered:
"A" Block (Base Slip) with Center, if NG works playside, snap on B.S. LB. If the NG works backside or the LB disappears over the top of the NG, make over call to the Center.
Back Side Tackle : Block number 2: see the Inside Zone in action.
Covered by a Down Lineman:
Step with your inside foot to the inside number. If down lineman works into you, lock on and drive. If down lineman works out, come up on backside LB.
Covered by a LB or Uncovered:
Powerslip with Guard, step with your inside foot to down lineman's outside number. If down lineman works playside, snap on LB. If down lineman works to you or stays, double team him until LB disappears over the top; make over call to the Guard, then lock and drive.
Tight End Playside: Step with outside foot to the middle of the sternum of the defender. If DE works out, then you stay locked on. If DE works in, you first must secure the defender before working to the next level. *Note: Tackle covered, you have End by yourself.
Tight End Backside: Step with your inside foot, scramble cut off, stay locked on to the backside End. Do not allow End to cross your face. Also, a possible sift.
Post by Coach Nicholson on May 5, 2005 13:30:54 GMT
oneback,
On OSZ and ISZ the only difference is the landmark of the RB, correct? On these two zone plays everyone is stepping playside and comboing up to a backer, correct? So if I was wanting to run ISO off ISZ action like you described above the line still blocks the same and the only difference being that the FB would read DL like he was running the ball?? Since FB would have playside backer on ISO who would man coming off C and G combo go up to??
I wouldn't run an ISO and inside zone. PIck one or the other and if you want a play that has the effect of an ISO run the lead draw which I think is much better than the ISO play.
On the inside zone like one back said you can lead the fullback playside and have him go for force or the PSLB depending on the defense.
Here is how the Ravens do it: If there is a tackle bubble liek in an over front or a basic 4-3 the TE releases outside the DE to block support whether it is the saftey or corner. The tackle then blocks the DE turning him out. the FB leads on the SAM backer. the center steps to the playside A gap watching for a 3 tech slant then gets a piece of the backside shade before blocking the MIKE. PLay usually cutsback
Post by Coach Nicholson on May 10, 2005 9:13:24 GMT
I watched the Gibbs vid last night and it is great! In his video he mentions that they run the ISZ, OSZ and the keeper game off of it. Do they not run any type of power or counter plays?
Do you guys that run full zone plays also run other plays such as counter and power or option?? Or do you think it is best to just identity your team as just a zone team or just an option team etc...
A Gibbs says in tape that he doesn't have time to get good on Counter. He DID run a "14 COUNTER" at Denver (to Split End side) WELL (trapped with off G & wrapped with FB)!
We (as do the Redskins in their glory year) have the theory that we are going to run TWO concepts.
#1 ZONE (IZ & OZ = same rules - just a slightly wider tech. on OZ) #2 COUNTER (Power = same blocking except switch "trapper" & "wrapper")
Our kids are being taught only two CONCEPTS.
We are a better Counter/Power team than Zone team - but we can teach both!
PS: The COUNTER was originally conceived by the Skins (81 or 82 season) as a counter OFF the IZ! Complimented the IZ!
Post by Coach Nicholson on May 10, 2005 12:27:58 GMT
My head coach wants to run counter/power and the option. If we teach the kids to block our counter/power and option plays using zone principles then it wouldnt be that big of a deal to teach them to block full zone plays as well. What do you think? They would already be comboing up to backers on all the other plays.
The ZONE series & the COUNTER series are two different breeds of cat!
Best way to understand this is:
1) Watch A Gibbs "ZONES" video (you have done this).
2) Watch the following video on COUNTER/POWER: Russ Grimm (from the Cool clinic of 2000). Tape is very inexpensive. Contact: J.M.W. ATTN; VIDEO 4017 Grove Avenue Cincinnatti, Ohio 45227 Costs around $10 - not sure of exact amount.
There is a clinic to be held in Richmond, Va on July 16 & 17 (closed to the public, by invitation only, & free of charge). This STYLE of football will be featured. Last time, we had coaches here from 8 states (HS & College coaches). If you want an invitation to attend for a two day seminar of ZONE & COUNTER football, call me at 804-740-4479 (before 10:30 PM/EDT)
CONTRAST THE RULES:
I ZONE BLOCKING RULES:
A) (EVERYONE) IF YOU ARE UNCOVERED — ZONE WITH YOUR TEAMMATE TO PLAYSIDE. B) (EVERYONE) IF YOU ARE COVERED LOOK BACKSIDE - #1 IF YOUR TEAMATE BACKSIDE IS UNCOVERED - ZONE WITH HIM. #2 IF YOUR TEAMATE BACKSIDE IS COVERED — MAN BLOCK.
II COUNTER/POWER BLOCKING RULES:
PLAYSIDE (ALL) = A) IF YOUR INSIDE TEAMMATE IS UNCOVERED — COMBO WITH YOUR OUTSIDE TEAMMATE FROM THE MAN ON YOU TO THE BACKSIDE LB. B) IF YOUR INSIDE TEAMATE IS COVERED — COMBO WITH YOUR INSIDE TEAMMATE FROM THE MAN ON HIM TO THE BACKSIDE LB. NOTE: GAP BLOCK VS. "SOLID LOOK".
CENTER = 1ST MAN ON LOS OFFSIDE
OFFSIDE GUARD = A) COUNTER = TRAP EMLOS; B) POWER = LEAD THRU ON PLAYSIDE LB
OFFSIDE TACKLE = SQUEEZE B GAP & HINGE ON EDGE RUSHER
H = A) COUNTER = LEAD THRU ON PLAYSIDE LB; B) POWER = TRAP (KICK) EMLOS
I hope some of the above will provide food for thought".
Post by Coach Nicholson on May 10, 2005 13:32:02 GMT
Bill,
Thank you very much for that last reply. I actually have the Grimm vid and I have watched it. It is very good and I am planning on watching it again soon. Also thank you for the invite to the clinic...I will defenitly give you a call soon.
------------------------------------------------------------------------ Combo Blocking Drill: Line up two OLM and two defenders. OLM are identified as a post blocker and a seal blocker; 1st level defender (DLM) and a 2nd level defender (LB). I work inside out when drilling playside combos; the calls are Jack, Queen, and King. Jack, a combo block between the Center and PSG working to a PS LB. Queen, a combo block between the PSG and PST working to a PS LB. King, a combo block between the PST and the PS TE working to a PS LB. I also teach backside combo blocks. Ace, a combo between the Center and PSG working to a BS LB. Deuce, a combo between the PSG and the PST working to a BS LB. Trey a combo block between the PST and the PS TE working to a BS LB. When I teach the combo block at first I will not have a second level defender. Linemen, especially young linemen will come off the down defender too soon, which disallows for the necessary vertical push needed. After OLM properly executing the proper technique on the down defender I will then put a second level defender in. The objective of the combo block is to get vertical movement on the down defender and seal the LB. THE FOOTWORK: The post blocker will either step with his inside foot or his outside foot depending on the down defenders alignment. If the defender is head up on the post blocker he then will take a 4-inch lateral jab step inside because the down defender could spike (stunt inside). If he down defender is aligned where he is not a threat to spike inside the post blocker will now step with his outside foot. The second step is a vertical step up field getting movement on the down defender. The seal blocker first step will be slightly sideways and up field with toes pointing forward keeping shoulders square. Second step is a vertical step getting vertical push on the down defender. It is imperative the post blocker and the seal blocker keep their shoulders square (do not get turned). Also, it is important that the post blocker and the seal blocker maintain a hip-to-hip relationship on contact, which will not allow the down defender to split the block. THE PUNCH: Both linemen should punch upwards on the down defenders breast plates trying to get lift (hit on the rise). Post blocker will punch the breast plate of the down defender with his outside hand keeping the inside hand free for LB run through. The seal blocker will punch the breast plate of the down defender with his inside hand keeping his outside hand free. The second level defender, which is the linebacker, can do one of three things. He can run through, hang, or scrap over the top. The term I use when teaching combo blocks is "step, punch, and eyeball". Both OLM will get vertical push on the down defender (drive the down defender up field) until the LB commits. If the LB runs through it turns into to and inside out combo block, if the LB scrapes over the top it turns into a post seal combo block, and if the LB hangs get vertical push on down defender until the LB commits. In other words push the down defender into the LB. Start with the down defender in an outside shade. King, down defender is in a 1 tech, Queen, the down defender is in a 3 tech and King, and the down defender is in a 5 tech, all outside shades to the call side. Always give a snap count. On the snap count both OLM will get vertical push on the down defender, while executing the proper technique of the combo block. Look for the proper footwork, the proper punch, hip-to-hip relationship, and eye balling the LB. You will then have the down defender align head up the post blocker and repeat the drill. The post blocker will now take a 4 inch lateral jab step with his inside foot. It is important that you work against all possible stunts by the down defender and the linebacker's three paths, run through, hang, and scrap over the top. You can work this drill live or against shields. Coaching points: 1. Check for the proper technique by both the post and seal blocker, which is the proper footwork, the proper punch. 2. Check to make both blockers maintain the proper hip-to-hip relationship on contact, and maintain until one of them comes off to the LB. 3. Check to make sure they are both getting the proper vertical push on the down defender. If you have any questions please e-mail me at kwilmesh@cox.net kw
Men I know this thread is about Zone/power schemes. However I'm not able to post a new topic so I'm going to try it this way. I have a question about another play and its rules?
I'm looking to install a draw trap in our offensive system. I know that Norm Chow has been very successful with a particular draw trap that attacks an aggresive up field rusher off the edge (DE or WLB). Does anyone know how this is blocked? What are the rules? I'd really like to know how to block it out of a pro formation (ie Red Right) Any help would be great!
Success is peace of mind that is a direct result of self-satisfaction in knowing that you made the effort to become the best you are capable of becoming<BR> John Wooden
It is in the 95 Norm Chow playbook sold on EBAY by David at lgcuban@comcast.net Wish I could scan you a copy but I don't have a scanner. Only copy I have is on PDF FILE.
If you wish to discuss the play (since I can't draw it) email me at bmountjoy@yahoo.com
It is in the 95 Norm Chow playbook sold on EBAY by David at lgcuban@comcast.net Wish I could scan you a copy but I don't have a scanner. Only copy I have is on PDF FILE.
If you wish to discuss the play (since I can't draw it) email me at bmountjoy@yahoo.com
Success is peace of mind that is a direct result of self-satisfaction in knowing that you made the effort to become the best you are capable of becoming<BR> John Wooden
For some reason my email sent to you is coming back. I'll try again, if you dont get an email from me can you please email me at: alf5578@yahoo.com
Thanks
Coach Longoria
Success is peace of mind that is a direct result of self-satisfaction in knowing that you made the effort to become the best you are capable of becoming<BR> John Wooden
As I research multiple style zone definitions and approaches to IZ and OZ I get slightly different answers on what is covered vs. uncovered.
For IZ, is covered on say the Guard, an opponent on the inside shoulder (2i - or sometimes defined as a 1 tech), all the way to the playside gap considered COVERED
OR, for IZ, is covered from the Guards nose to the inside shoulder of the PST.?
ON OZ (Stretch), would covered by from Guard's nose to the inside shoulder of PST?
OR from Outside shoulder (3 tech) to the Tackle's nose (4 Tech) assuming we will have a full reach. I've seen various methods described - all about the same, but with enough slight differences to slightly alter the blocking rules
Post by Coach Campbell on Jun 17, 2005 16:47:00 GMT
Never pull a covered lineman with you in a zone scheme unless a possible backside shade. on an inside zone we use the near ear of the down defender as our landmark for helmet placement and outside zone the playside ear. Coach CAmpbell