Twist stunts and BOB Protection

Coach,

I understand that the question is braod and i appreciate your response. We will be man blockng our BOB.
I am fairly solid on the technique and footwoork I was just wondering if there was something I was missing. We have difficulty picking up a twist stunt when the DE loops around toward and the DT slants into the OT. My guys are banging into each other. Anyway, thanks for the response.

George - good response. Did you get the tape yet?

COACH K - you are talking about the "T/E" twist (T into B gap & DE loops behind into A gap. I cannot go into this from every conceivable front, but taking the front below - here is the TECHNIQUE:

M
---T-E
C-G-T

T/E = T slant outside into OT (B GAP). DE loop behind DT into A Gap.

"BOB" PROTECTION (OR "Solid Base", for that matter):

A) "MAN" = Offensive tackle in setting - when he sees the DE loop - get depth & comes behind Offensive Guard's block to pick up DE (stay square & shuffle - quick feet are essential)). CENTER IS KEY HERE - as he helps picks up DE if MLB drops. Offensive Guard will have no problem with DT - normal "BOB" technique.

B) "ZONE" = O-Guard must become the "Rock of Gibraltar" when picking up a DE "coming over the top" on the "T/E" twist. Sink your butt low and be ready to take on the rusher as he "clears" the DT. Stay low & deliver a blow ("don't be the nail, be the hammer")! Keep that POST FOOT set as you shuffle inside to protect the A/B gap. Don't "bail out" by dropping the post foot back. O-TACKLE must violently "FORCE THE SWITCH" to push the Guard off the slanting DT. Both linemen's HIPS must be at the same level to execute a good "HIP SWITCH"!!! Once again, the CENTER can help if his man (MLB) drops).

Suggest you try BOTH approaches, & pick the one that works BEST for YOU. there are SITUATIONS where you almost have to stay man, & vice-versa (one example where you might want to stay "man" would be on the "T/E", where the DT GRABS & PULLS THE Guard - it would be best to "man" that - with the OT coming behind the OG for the DE).

We begin with man, then teach the zone CONCEPT. If a call WAS made - it would be the same CALL as if the OG & OT were combo-ing as on INSIDE ZONE RUN ("READ" CALL). That way, defense doesn't know if it was run or pass!

NOTE: While you have a choice of MAN or ZONE on the "T/E", versus the "E/T" (DE goes first - into B gap, & DT loops around behind him into the C Gap) it is almost imperative to "zone-it" (SWITCH) regardless of if you teach man OR zone!!!!! Others man do it differently, that's just our way.

Sorry I don't have time to be more specific. These type of things are hard to discuss via email.

Thanks Oneback....I have not gotten the tapes yet but I may today...I will not be home until late due to 7-on-7 practice and weight lifting.

Coach Mountjoy,

thank you for the response. It has helped me a great deal.

I agree with GoVertical - I like the man scheme with the switch call. I played in that system and we never had an assignment mix up past day 1. Like him, the OL whose man is the penetrator gives the switch call, and hands him down to his partner. Usually their hips will touch as he gives the switch call.

The rest of the technique is pretty similar to what Oneback described - except I will have my guys CUT the looper - he tends to come with less fire next time (our league allows this). Alternately we will go attack him and meet him as he turns upfield, as opposed to waiting for him.

My current HC likes me to teach zone concepts and I've found kids chase the slanters and loopers much more which creates the problems.

That St. Viator stuff that govertical's talking about is great, and simple.

Bill,

IMO, PRE SNAP LOOK FROM ANY OFFENSIVE POSITION SHOULD BE STRESSED A LOT MORE THAN THEY ARE!!! We all get tied up and tunnel vision with the QB and receivers when stressing the PSL look from time to time, but those points you posted above for OLM are really helpful, IMO. Sincere thanks as always for sharing your knowledge of OL play.

JC

Coack K; J.C.; etc.

I talked yesterday with a long time friend - Mark McHale (O-Line coach at Florida St). Mark is one of the premier college O-Line coaches.

He has an interesting way of handling the "T/E", & the "E/T":

He teaches "trapping the twist":

----T--E
C--G--T

"T/E": GUARD = "SNAP" THE DT; TACKLE = "TRAP" THE DT: The Guard must "snap" the DT on a "T/E" in order to help the Tackle from being picked. The Tackle is the "trapper" & must get his head in front of the man penetrating (DT) and knock the "dog-stew" out of him. He must then immediately square up on him.

"E/T": GUARD = "TRAP" THE DE; TACKLE = "PRESS" THE DE: The Tackle on the "E/T" must power-step up into the man penetrating (DE) to help the Guard.

You must do this to avoid getting on different levels, & getting picked.

Anyone within driving distance should visit Mark at FSU. He likes visiting with coaches.

I THINK Darrel Dickey (Doug's son) has QB's!