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What is the commonly accepted definition of covered/uncovered? Does covered = If T, a 4i/4/5 tech or if G, a 1/2/3 tech, etc.? uncovered therefore would mean that there is no DL is any of these alignments for a T or G?
We're installing zone blocking schemes next year (used to be wing-t) and I was just wandering what the textbook definition is for covered and uncovered so I could relate it to the kids in a way that they would understand (and myself for that matter). I have read most of the messages on zone blocking on this site and they are a wealth of info for a young coach like me and it is very much appreciated. Thank you for any help offered.
KB
Kevin Burns
Holy Spirit High School
O-line Coach/OC
In the zone concept there are uncovered linemen and covered linemen, in which the footwork varies. An uncovered lineman is defined as having no defender aligned either head up or to the playside or call side gap on the L.O.S.. A covered lineman is defined as having a defender aligned head up or in the playside or call side gap on the L.O.S. If you have questions please e-mail me at kwilmesh@cox.net
I do not agree with the above definition. To be COVERED is to have a DLM ON YOUR INSIDE SHOULDER, HEAD UP, OR OUTSIDE SHOULDER. fOR EXAMPLE: T COVERED BY A 4i, 4, 5 techinique.
To be UNCOVERED is to have no DLM on any part of you and to be covered by a LB. If your backside teammate is uncovered and you have a 4i on you, you simply look backside and know you can expect help from your uncovered team mate as you will look for him to take over the block while you come off the combo to the scraping LB. If your backside team mate is covered, then you know you will man block the guy over you, in this example the 4i. KW, if you are only interested in a head up or gap technique to the call side, what do you do with a 2i,41, which is on You, not your backside team mate? Can you please expound on your definition? Thanks for your time in advance.
Coach Easton
J.C. EASTON<BR>HEAD COACH<BR>GA TIGERS FOOTBALL<BR>PROFESSIONAL MINOR LEAGUE
Post by Coach Campbell on May 15, 2005 7:00:27 GMT
Along the lines of covered and uncovered laid out by Coach Easton when zone blocking using this rule is to never pull a covered lineman with you when working a combination block. ACE, Duece, & Trey Combinations should be done with one covered and one uncovered lineman. Coach Campbell
Yes, I agree you should never pull a covered linemen in the zone concept. However, I disagree with your concept of covered and uncovered linemen. In the zone concept you define a covered linemen and uncovered linemen on the down defenders alignment; if the tackle has a 4i or a 5 and the guard has a 2 or 3 then they are both considered covered what about the center is he covered or uncovered. You will always work to depth to the 2nd level defender. What about the backside tackle he has a 5 tech and the guard as a 3i and the WILL LB is 4i at depth the play is inside zone to the right in this scheme who do considered as the uncovered and covered linemen? The tackle is considered uncovered and the guard is considered covered. The tackle will take his uncovered steps and the guard will take his covered step. Each linemen has a zone. If there is a 2i on the call side guard the center is uncovered the guard is covered. If there is a 2i on the guard and a 4i on the tackle were is the SAM is he in a 9 on the TE? Uncovered step by the center, uncovered step by the guard and covered step by the tackle. In my terminology ace is a combo block between the PS guard working to the BS LB, Duece is a combo block between the PS guard and the PS tackle working to the BS LB, and trey is a combo block between the the PS tackle and the PS TE working to the BS LB. Don you use those combo blocks in your zone scheme? Thank you for your time.
A Tackle, be it backside or frontside with a 5 on him, is always considered covered by me. I use all the combos that you mention. No biggie, just different way of looking at things.
Coach Easton
J.C. EASTON<BR>HEAD COACH<BR>GA TIGERS FOOTBALL<BR>PROFESSIONAL MINOR LEAGUE
On the backisde of zone away from the call side you do not block the 5 tech. That is the reason the decide play is so big right now. If the 5 runs up field hand the ball to the rb. If he 5 crashes pull the ball out and qb keeps. kw
You must be talking about running it from the "GUN".
2 TE/2 WR/1 RB teams with the QB under (like the N.E. Patriots, Indy Colts, & the Redskins) do block the backside 5 technique on the Inside Zone. It is a pre-determined handoff with no option to pull.
Of course you do not block a read man, didn't mean to insinuate that. Where do you coach, KW, and at what level? You seem to be well versed on zone schemes.
Coach Easton
J.C. EASTON<BR>HEAD COACH<BR>GA TIGERS FOOTBALL<BR>PROFESSIONAL MINOR LEAGUE
As oneback just mentioned, I took it for granted you were running it from a gun when you mentioned reading the backside 5 and what constitutes a keep and a pull in that situation. Much like a shuffle pass option, when of course, you don't block the 5.
Coach Easton
J.C. EASTON<BR>HEAD COACH<BR>GA TIGERS FOOTBALL<BR>PROFESSIONAL MINOR LEAGUE
But back to the inside zone scheme that we were originally discussing, we are always going to block the backside 5 just as the three teams that oneback points out do it VERY SUCCESFULLY on the NFL level. I usually close my posts with "just my way" but this is not appropos in this instance as it is not just my opinion but rather the opinion of many, many successful zone coaches among which are Russ Grim, Alec Gibbs, Jim Hannifan, Joe Gibbs just to mention a few.
Coach Easton
J.C. EASTON<BR>HEAD COACH<BR>GA TIGERS FOOTBALL<BR>PROFESSIONAL MINOR LEAGUE
If the defensive structure is a 4-3. Strength is to the right and you are going to run inside zone to the right. The backside tackle has a 5 tech, the backside guard has a 2 tech.The WILL LB is at depth and is a 4i. The center has the MIKE LB at zero, the call side guard has a 2 tech and the call tackle is uncovered and the TE has a 7 tech and the SAM LB is at depth in a 6 tech and has outside contain. The down defenders are spiking and the LB 's are scrapping. How would you block that? Would you have the backside tackle block the 5 tech? He is covered. I would not block the 5 tech from gun or under center there are 3 backers in the box. Uncovered and covered steps. I coach at the college level and have coached the o-line for 24 years.
Might now be what you would do, but in your first question I would turn out on the backside 5, base block the backside 2, ace the frontside 2 with C+PSG to Mike, trey the 7 to SAM with PST and Y. Tell RB to stuff the B gap if not a log jam! If they are playing the 2 tech as they should, they should have A gaps, not the B's. Just my way.
Answer to your second question- IMO, yes
No, I have not accounted for Will in first example as we would not worry about him. If he turned out to be some phenominal player and hurting us, I would have the X cut his split way down and crack his butt.
Coach Easton
Thanks for your personal info, you sound well experienced. I am just about to start my 41st year on field with our first preseason game next Saturday night. I have been a HFC for a lot of years now, but always consider myself a QB coach, having played that position and coached it for all these years. What college do you work for? Is all your experience as line coach on that level, or did you coach other levels as well?
J.C. EASTON<BR>HEAD COACH<BR>GA TIGERS FOOTBALL<BR>PROFESSIONAL MINOR LEAGUE
You could send the BST to the WILL I guess but then the 5 tech is a much greater threat than the WILL, IMO, and I'm going to block him. How would you do it, coach?
Coach Easton
J.C. EASTON<BR>HEAD COACH<BR>GA TIGERS FOOTBALL<BR>PROFESSIONAL MINOR LEAGUE
Do you have backside and playside combo blocks? Because in my terminology ace and trey are to the backside LB which is the MIKE LB so you are putting to hats on the MIKE LB? King is my playside combo between the PS tackle and TE. It is all semantics. If the WILL is 4i you better have a phenominal X because that is a tough block inside. The 5 should have outside contain if he crashes and boot his ass with the QB after that happens a few times he will not be a factor. But the one thing I always tell my linemen is the down defender makes tackles for losses and the second level defender makes tackles. You have your philosophy and I have mine and I am sure we have both been successful. Coach what type of players do you get and do they get payed. What type of set system do you teach on pass protection?
Your right about semantics, an ace block to me is the BSG and C or the PSG and C either one. A deuce is the G and T and a trey is the T and TE. I am taking that you say Will is a 4i at depth that you mean he is a 40 tech in my terminiology (DLM tech + 10 ) at his normal depth. I don't like to count on holding the BS 5 with a QB fake, as some of those guys (jervon Kerse types) can really play and hawk your QB going away down the line. I played QB long enough to know that hurts and I try to protect our QB's as much as is possible. Again, just my way.
I get guys who got overlooked coming out of college and didn't get drafted. This is my 11th year at this level as a HC and former franchise owner. I started my team in 1993 and sold out and retired at the end of the 2003 season going 76-23-1 for regular season play, 2 Division Championships, 7 play off wins and won the 1994 AFL Super Bowl Championship. Sent 31 players on to the NFL, the CFL, the Arena 1 and af2 leagues, and the NFL Europe league. I paid my players, yes. After being "retired" for 8 months, was contacted by another owner who was starting a new franchise and wanted me to be his HFC. Made me an offer and have been back at it ever since building the new team. We open our preseason next Saturday night. I run a 5 wide empty gun as our base passing formation, but run and throw out of some 25 formations or so. Primary run formations are pro "I" and Ace, don't see much option at our level but we run it just enough to keep opponents on their toes to get ready for us. I run it mostly out of the "I" (triple-ISV + OSV for the most part). We slide, BOB, and make a hybrid out of a little bit of both (pull both guards to create cup) etc. In my base spread which is a 3 x 2 empty gun, we see the classic 6 on our 5 alot and we put a hat on 5 of them and count on the QB being his own best blocker and using his legs to run out and away from the free runner. If they try to put more than 6 in the box, someone is uncovered and we try our best to make them pay for that mistake with hots. Just my way.
Coach Easton
J.C. EASTON<BR>HEAD COACH<BR>GA TIGERS FOOTBALL<BR>PROFESSIONAL MINOR LEAGUE
I'm a D-line coach in a 4-3 scheme. Our base alignment is a 5 & 2i weak, with a 3 and 9 strong (assuming a TE is in the formation). The backers have heels at 5 yds., with SAM in a 50, MIKE in a 0 or 10 strong, and WILL in a 4i. How will you block it? Also, how will you block it if I bump my 2i to a 1 Shade weak?
How many players do carry and do you have to make cuts? How many coaches on your staff and do you pay them? How many times do you practice a week: not the 20 hour rule I hope, Ha Ha. What levels have you coached at? Spread them out. Yeah need hots built into the package. Coaches it has been great talking with you.
What I teach in the zone concept are co-op blocks also each linemen has a zone from their nose to the call side shoulder of the adjacent linemen. The backside guard and the backside tackle will make a swap call, backside co-op, work the down defender to the WILL LB. The center and the call side guard make a single call playside co-op, work the down defender to the MIKE LB. The call side tackle and TE make a triple call playside co-op from the down defender tp the SAM LB. If you bump the 2i to a 1 shade on the weak side then the center makes a trio call, co-op between the backside guard, center, and the call side guard. The backside guard will block the 1, center works to the MIKE, and the call side guard will maintain inside leverage and widen the down defender. Backside tackle will sift (the backside tackle working through the level 1 defender to a flowing 2nd level befender) to the WILL LB. Call side tackle and TE wil make a triple call.
We play according to the NFL rule book. Yes, cuts are very much a part of the regimen as we usually get about 75 out and can only carry 53 by season's opener. I have operated with as many as 9 coaches and as few as five. Yes, they get paid. We just completed our 30th week of off season preparation that consists of weight lifting, cardiovascular enhancement, general conditioning and class room. We are unrestricted as to how many hours we can practice, etc. and we work about 10 1/2 months out of the year. We were in shells until we went to "camp" 45 days ago, and have been in full pads ever since. We worked 4 days a week in the winter and went to five when we went to camp. We are itching to hit somebody besides each other. It has been great talking with you also, coach. Don't be a stranger to the board, enjoyed your posts.
Coach Easton
J.C. EASTON<BR>HEAD COACH<BR>GA TIGERS FOOTBALL<BR>PROFESSIONAL MINOR LEAGUE
"BurnsK" - the following definitions are almost "universal" in the NFL. This comes from a current NFL playbook of a ZONE GURU O-Line Coach:
COVERED = indicates the alignment of a DLM head-up or either shoulder of an OLM on the LOS. Defender in a 3 or 4 point stance.
UNCOVERED = indicates the same as covered EXCEPT the defender is off the LOS by one or more yards. Defender is standing up.
"BIGCAT": If your defense has a 2I & the play is going to the other side - the CENTER zones with the playside Guard - from MLB to 3 technique. If the 2I moves to a SHADE (Center is now "covered" by definition above) Center must zone with his uncovered teammate away from the play (off G) from shade to MLB. On G would be on 3 tech alone.
NOTE: With BACKSIDE/DT in a "shade" most would use a 3 man zone - with the Off G - Center - & ON G zoning together: Alex Gibbs is BIG on this: TRIPLE (CALL) = 3 MAN COMBO INTO REDUCTION BECAUSE HE DOESN™T FEEL ON G CAN HANDLE A 3 TECH. BY HIMSELF.
Bill just gave you the basis for what we teach, and believe in. You know, as always, it comes down to what you know and are comfortable teaching. Best of luck in the upcoming year ahead that will be here before you know it.
Coach Easton
J.C. EASTON<BR>HEAD COACH<BR>GA TIGERS FOOTBALL<BR>PROFESSIONAL MINOR LEAGUE
I call your three man zone scheme a trio (co-op between the PS guard, center, and BS guard). If you read my definitions of covered and uncovered linemen I do state ON THE L.O.S.. An uncovered lineman is defined as having no defender aligned either head up or to the playside or call side gap on the L.O.S.. A covered lineman is defined as having a defender aligned head up or in the playside or call side gap ON THE L.O.S. So it must be semantics again? An uncovered linemen will have a LB at depth.
My backside co-ops are:
slug: co-op bewteen BS TE and BS Tackle. buzz: co-op between BS TE and BS Tackle working to a saftey on 2nd level. swap: co-op between BS Tackle and BS Guard. scoop: co-op between BS Guard and Center. solid: co-op bewteen BS TE, BS Tackle and BS Guard. trip: co-op between BS Tackle, BS Guard and Center.
Playside co-op blocks:
single: co-op between Center and PS Guard. double: co-op between PS Guard and PS Tackle. triple: co-op between PS Tackle and PS TE. gang: co-op between BS Tackle, BS Guard, Center, PS Guard. trio: co-op between PS Guard, Center, and BS Guard. triplet: co-op between PS Guard, PS Tackle, and PS TE.
Alex Gibbs calls it a triple combo: I call it a trio co-op. Must be semantics again?
Co-op blocks are defined as two or more adjacent offensive linemen working together on a level 1 defender to linebacker on level 2.