Installing Today’s Hybrid Pistol Offense Run & Pass from Top to Bottom
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What books and materials do you recommend concerning the flexbone? I think I have read on this message board a book by Stowers but wasn't sure. Thanks.
Stowers has a good book.It covers the basics.I got a couple of good ideas from the book and reinforced alot of things I was already doing.Maybe this is why I am recommending . LOL!!!
Hey, I was wondering if maybe we could start a converstation about the differences between different wishbone derivatives. Airforce flexbone, Wofford wingbone, Navy/GaSo spread option, true wishbone and any other derivative (Colorado I-bone?) that may come up. I am a true amature, but as I read manuals and see articles on line, there seem to be differences in the philosophies used. ie, some spread option teams use some run and shoot. Flexbone seems to be more wedded to pure wishbone philosophy in the passing game, Wofford's offense is a flex + wing-t. Greg B
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Beetle,I'm in on any option football you want to throw out there regardless of formation.As far as videos go,I do have the Air Force Triple Option Videos.They are informative.I am awaiting the Play Action Passing video.I expect it sometime this week.
This is completely useless, but this is my impression of each derivative of the wishbone you mentioned:
Air Force- Air Force was a true wishbone team, but decided to make their offense more "flexible" (hence the name flexbone). Over the last few years, it seems they've become too flexible, and have gotten away from the core running plays that their system is built on. They spent more time in the I in 03 than some I teams do. Their brand of option football is built around a lot of double option and some midline. They still run the triple, but not as much as they used to. Air Force uses a front recognition system to determine reads and perimeter blocking.
Navy/GaSouth- The Paul Johnson system (make no mistake....it's HIS system) is unique in the position of the B-back (fullback). He's not a typical fullback unless they have a prototype (see Kyle Eckel). He's typically a thick tailback who can handle the beating it takes to run between the tackles. They use a tailback because a) they like to use the B-back as a pitchback on some options b) His depth is deeper than the traditional wishbone fullback, needs to be quicker to get to the mesh on time c) they zone block the triple and ask the B-back to read and cut on the run, even on the triple (ex, vs ODD defense, the B-back reads the NG, vs. even, he reads the DT). They also typically don't use a tight end, although they did a lot more of that at Navy this year. Johnson uses a 1-2-3, inside-out count system to determine reads and perimeter blocking.
True Wishbone- When you say wishbone, everyone thinks of it a different way. Are we talking about the old Texas wishbone, based on power football, or the Oklahoma-style that is based on speed? The wishbone is the grandaddy because Bellard/Royal wanted a formation to run the triple option from that wasn't predicated on the threat of a passing game, as the Split Back Veer was considered to be. They came up with a 3-back attack specifically designed for one play: the triple option. Everything about the wishbone is conducive to the triple option, from the fullback's tighter alignment, to the relationship between the pitch back and the blocking back, to the split end that prevent the defenses from running the alley with reckless abandon. Only in the last 15-20 years have teams evolved into moving the halfbacks to make their blocks easier, and spread defenses out, but Oklahoma was a dominant force in the 80s running the plain old wishbone. Some time ago, Barry Switzer (I believe) was quoted as saying "if wishbone coaches had stayed committed to the wishbone, or if someone had the guts to run it today, it would be dominant in this era of spread passing, and defensive linemen being coached to run upfield and rush the passer." Common criticisms od the wishbone include the lack of a catch-up passing attack, and inability to spread the defense without breaking formation. True wishbone teams normally use an outside-in count system to determine reads and perimeter blocking.
I-Bone- I'll be the first to admit that I don't know a lot about the I-bone. What I do know is that it was very successful, but didn't stick around very long in D1A football. It was a system that took full advantage of what the I-formation has to offer and option team: your inside runner runs inside, and your outside runner runs outside. The I-bone is different from a normal, 2-back I-formation in that they had a blocking back that could be moved to either side a split second before the snap of the ball. This prevented the offense from being outnumbered to the playside.
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Veerbone, Not useless at all. I know, when I say Wishbone, I usually refer to Alabama (was there a 3d option) and my alma mater (The Citadel ran Wishbone in the early 90's rather successfully) which was mainly triple with some sweep and belly with some passing (bama) The Citadel ran alot of counters, some power and huge amounts of inside veer and trap options. Again, no passing attack outside of the playaction. Like Switzer, I have wondered why the formation is used so little today. After a great string on the history forum led by Bill Mountjoy and other greats that like to visit these forums I understood the effect mirror defenses (mainly in well prepared bowl games-ND vs Bama and TX in those great mid 70's games) made breaking the bone wise, but now none of the flex and spread teams run any wishbone. I would think that it would be the power formation of choice for those teams. Belly seems to be just great from there. Afterall, that is what the DeBerry and Hatfield teams starte as. Just using the wing and slot sets to break tendencies and avoid the mirror defenses. I am wondering if soon the spread and flex teams will run into the same problems. Greg B
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Urban legend has it that Fisher DeBerry and Tubby Raymond meant and traded ideas some time ago. As a result of that Deleware started to run some triple option and Air Force began to develop some wing-t plays such as the trap and belly down.
I did hear an Air Force assistant at a clinic say that after a very average season on the early 1990's they decided to begin to break the bone to spread the defense and pass the ball better.
As I high school coach I was sad to see both schools bastardize so much. Their older schemes were so recognizable and helpful to the high school coach. Now Air Force has one of the most complex offenses is football. Navy is fun to watch though.
Post by Coach Campbell on May 14, 2005 15:30:49 GMT
If any of you are interested Lyle and Myself have published a manual called the Ultimate offense using both the under center offense paired with the gun offense attack. This can be found in our resourse store. Coach Campbell