Post by Tooch43 on May 31, 2005 18:24:05 GMT
Anyone have a good test that they give their players to test their fitness pre and post summer workouts?
We, at Centennial High School, have a difficult time getting our kids in the weightroom over the summer. They play club lacrosse, baseball, and basketball, and complain that they don't have time. We plan to institute a fair fitness test pre- and post- summer workouts and have real consequences for those that don't meet the standards (for Varsity only). We want our test to be fair though and I can't find much on it on the net. Sure we could make them run sub 7:30 miles for skill guys and sub 9:30 miles for linemen, but I just don't feel that that is very sport specific. I found a book that has times on 220's divided by linemen and skill players and may go with that. I wish I could find something shorter, i.e. a certain number of 40-50 yard sprints under a certain time but specific to linemen and skill guys. Some of our coaches went and saw Dr. Ward impliment his SW and he made his guys run 9's. These are 53 yard sprints in under 9 seconds. I'd like to make our guys maybe run 9 9's in 15 minutes for skill guys and maybe make our linemen run 11 11's (53 yards in under 11 seconds) in 22 minutes. Does this sound fair to everyone? Anyone have a better suggestion? HELP!! Also, we impliment the BFS lifting strength program. We'd also like to test our kids in squat, bench, and cleans; and set a standard for gains. What would be a realistic level of gain from June 8 - August 10...10%? Or does anyone have a standard for stength for their team...ie. you must bench press your body weight at least 10 times? Just looking for suggestions. Thanks!
I posted this on another forum: forums.delphiforums.com/SingleWing/messages/?start=Start+Reading+%3E%3E
This is one of the good ideas that I got. I like it but it seems very time consuming for the coaches:
"Coach,
There is a similiar thread going on at bucksweep.com Here is one of the responses that I thought was good.
A single 40 yard dash time as a predictor of football ability is like the SAT exam as apredictor of college success - overrated! If one is hung up on forty times use the old Springfield test to get a better indication of how fast a player is under stress and how fast he can recover and give max effort.
Get the athletes fastest 40 time. Then have the athlete run 10 timed 40's with a 30 second rest in between each (usually by the time the coach jogs to the other end of the marked out 40 yard space with his clipboard and marks the athletes time down it's time for the athlete to go again - yes the coach gets sweaty also!)
After the 10 forties are run average up the scores. An athletes average 40 time should not exceed one second over his best forty time. If it does, he has not passed the test. If his average is under one second, he has passed.
Old school but a football practical test that measures recovery, fitness and toughness.
It is much more important to know how fast and tough someone is as the game progresses than to rely only on an artificial situation put together in May.
Good Luck "
We, at Centennial High School, have a difficult time getting our kids in the weightroom over the summer. They play club lacrosse, baseball, and basketball, and complain that they don't have time. We plan to institute a fair fitness test pre- and post- summer workouts and have real consequences for those that don't meet the standards (for Varsity only). We want our test to be fair though and I can't find much on it on the net. Sure we could make them run sub 7:30 miles for skill guys and sub 9:30 miles for linemen, but I just don't feel that that is very sport specific. I found a book that has times on 220's divided by linemen and skill players and may go with that. I wish I could find something shorter, i.e. a certain number of 40-50 yard sprints under a certain time but specific to linemen and skill guys. Some of our coaches went and saw Dr. Ward impliment his SW and he made his guys run 9's. These are 53 yard sprints in under 9 seconds. I'd like to make our guys maybe run 9 9's in 15 minutes for skill guys and maybe make our linemen run 11 11's (53 yards in under 11 seconds) in 22 minutes. Does this sound fair to everyone? Anyone have a better suggestion? HELP!! Also, we impliment the BFS lifting strength program. We'd also like to test our kids in squat, bench, and cleans; and set a standard for gains. What would be a realistic level of gain from June 8 - August 10...10%? Or does anyone have a standard for stength for their team...ie. you must bench press your body weight at least 10 times? Just looking for suggestions. Thanks!
I posted this on another forum: forums.delphiforums.com/SingleWing/messages/?start=Start+Reading+%3E%3E
This is one of the good ideas that I got. I like it but it seems very time consuming for the coaches:
"Coach,
There is a similiar thread going on at bucksweep.com Here is one of the responses that I thought was good.
A single 40 yard dash time as a predictor of football ability is like the SAT exam as apredictor of college success - overrated! If one is hung up on forty times use the old Springfield test to get a better indication of how fast a player is under stress and how fast he can recover and give max effort.
Get the athletes fastest 40 time. Then have the athlete run 10 timed 40's with a 30 second rest in between each (usually by the time the coach jogs to the other end of the marked out 40 yard space with his clipboard and marks the athletes time down it's time for the athlete to go again - yes the coach gets sweaty also!)
After the 10 forties are run average up the scores. An athletes average 40 time should not exceed one second over his best forty time. If it does, he has not passed the test. If his average is under one second, he has passed.
Old school but a football practical test that measures recovery, fitness and toughness.
It is much more important to know how fast and tough someone is as the game progresses than to rely only on an artificial situation put together in May.
Good Luck "