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Hi to all, and I hope everyone had a great holiday.
My question concerns opinions on what defensive scheme you all like better-irrespective of personnell. If you had a choice, would you run the g robber scheme or the 4-3 with quarters? We play in a run heavy league and need to find ways to bring eight and nine into the box. I like the g because it seems simpler, however the 4-3 with quarters gives 5 to each side, with the free as cutback to the weak side. Any comments most definitley appreciated. Thanks in advance.
With the holidays coming up, I would recommend putting "Coaching Football's 4-3 Defense" by Tim Simons and Mike Freeman on your wish list. Great book that centers around the 4-3 scheme, cover 4 and putting 8 and 9 in the box . It is applicable for high school players and provides info on defending certain offenses and also illustrates practice plans and so forth. Good buy for $18. 95. Better than a tie, some boxers and dress socks now!!!
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Could you explain the philosophy and constructs of the "G/ROBBER" defense for me. I would really love to hear about it. Was it the defense ran by the WASH. HUSKIES in the early 90's? That's the only thing that is popping in my head right now. Thanks fellas and keep up the great work!!!
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I am not as qualified to comment on it as most guys on this site, but from what I know it is very similar to the washington eight man front of the 1990s. The g is simply a moniker indicating a base 4-4 with the guards covered with a 3 tech strong and a 2i tech weak. The robber was an addition by V-Tech and some of the other college programs that were running more of a 4-2-5 look in which the corners play a sort of inverted 2 deep coverage or man on #1 with the free "in the box" usually on the strong side and pattern reading the TE. This is a true nine in the box alignment, and very tough to run against. We used to run something similar about 4 years ago, and we had some good success but teams were able to formation us out of the robber a lot, or use motion to pull the free away from where they were going to run which is why I was interested in knowing if the quarters alignment in the 4-3 is a bit more sound.
Ah hell, I don't have much experience compared to others either, but hey, I am going to learn more by typing questions and replies and getting the proper feedback from those who KNOW the game. So dont be hesitant on typing what you think/know. I was that guy last year. The more info on this site, the better for all of us!
Thanks for your feedback. The 4-2-5 is something that I wish to do more research on and get a better understanding because I would love to add a good Nickel package to the 4-3. A robber scheme is something that interests me, especially with 5 players in the backfield who can cover and force the ball during a run.
I happened to see a clinic done on the 4-2-5 by Jim Knowles, HC @ Cornell. He didnt go too much into robber, however he provided all of us with a great Zone blitz versus one back spread. He called it 'SACK IT" and what it comprised of was a scheme that had the two LB's walk up onto the LOS in a blitz stance, filling the two open gaps that the DL hasnt filled. So say you had an over front (NOSE 1-tech and End in 5 tech with a TACKLE in a 3 tech and an END in a 5 tech on the other side)- the LB's would rush the open B gap and the open A gap to the strength. Now the C gap and B gap players would rush and read the OT's, while the two A gap rushers would read the Center. Who ever the OT looked to block would drop into coverage and the player who wasn't looked at would continue the rush. You can play Cover 3 and 4 behind it, along with any type of DL front. I loved it, especially as a young coach. Could create major issues with a HS O-line. Hope this helps. Keep up the great work!!
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Coach I would recomend quarters with the invert safties. For one you can not play robber to 1 back very well. Quarters is going to be better against the pass then robber also. I also like the fact that you can keep 7 in the box against 1 back in a 4-3 scheme. I do agree with you though that 4-3 cover 8 (that is what I call quarters) is tougher to put in then a 4-2-5 scheme with robber coverage. If you want to get real tough against the run walk one of your backers up into an eagle front and play quarters behind that, very weak in the flats but very tought vs. the run.
I don't have the CW POST stuff. The Robber stuff I refer to is from Virginia Tech and Temple (very similar). Temple's Secondary Coach played at Va Tech.
"Quarters" is fine IF you have two damned good Safeties that can cover 4.4 & 4.5/40 WR verticals deep, AND come up & take on 225 lb. lead blockers on a power sweep at the LOS. NOT TOO EASY TO FIND THAT BREED OF CAT (unless they have a cape & a blue jersey with a red "S" on it)! It draws up good - but WHO do you have playing those positions is more important than putting the "X" on a piece of paper!!!!!
One back, I have one safety who is a Div I prospect and another who is a regular high school athlete. I agree, the robber makes more sense, and quite honestly my best safety had eight picks and a boat load of tackles last year playing free safety in cover 3, so why not figure out ways to get him more involved, right? And Im assuming that playing a cover 2 or cover 4 from the G would not be all that difficult?? Maybe just slide the mike and sam over to the TE, and you have a Miami look.
Yes - "G" can be adjusted to run many coverages. It is ESSENTIALLY an 8 man front defense, so going to two safeties takes some adjusting.
It is all way too detailed to discuss via email. I saw a Virginia Tech 44 (G)/46 (Bears) defensive notebook for sale on EBAY under Football Playbook you really need to study this in detail.
I am giving a lecture on "4-4" at Atlantic City (MEGA CLINIC) on Jan. 21, 2006. MOST of my talk will center around the "blitz package". Don't know where you live - but if you are in the northeast, try to come.
Well I am form Boston, and my HC is going to buy us the Season pass, so I might be able to attend. Too bad your not coming up to Danvers. Thanks again for the help.