Installing Today’s Hybrid Pistol Offense Run & Pass from Top to Bottom
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I watched one of JT Curtis' Veer DVD's and I am interested in his Cutback play. DO all of the Veer guys run it? What do you think about it? I would be interested in the ins and outs of installation and running this play. It looks similar to Inside Veer, except the OL release inside of the LB's. You would run it to keep the LB's from flying to the Veer.
VeerOption, I have had the DVD's for about a year now. They are pretty good. Coach Campbell runs a cutback off the midline (10/11 opposite). I don't run a veer cutback, but a few years ago, my QB pulled the ball and cutback opposite of the playside for an 89 yard touchdown run. That was against a 3-3 stack defense. 3-3 stack coaches will admit that stopping cutback is tough for them to do.
Lou Cella
Head Varsity Football Coach
Greater Nanticoke Area High School (PA)
If it is a cutback play, then to me, it is obviously a COMPLIMENTARY PLAY to the veer and not an actual veer. In that rule, sounds like like a great play. I run a similar play, I believe, as a complimentary to the ISV. I just call it 40 BEND where the dive back hits the strong side B gap using the outside leg of the guard as his aiminmg point as on any ISV, takes the ball and reads MIKE all the way as he bends it back to the weak side after a step or two ACROSS THE LOS.
Coach Easton
J.C. EASTON<BR>HEAD COACH<BR>GA TIGERS FOOTBALL<BR>PROFESSIONAL MINOR LEAGUE
It is a complimentary play and not a Veer play. I believe vs an Odd front, the C takes the NG wherever he wants to go and the FB reads the C's block. The PST releases to the ILB? He may also Double the Nose with the C/PSG.
Yes, but I don't have the means of sending it to you. If I diagram it on here, it ALWAYS shifts.
We run it almost like the description above of the cutback. I usually run that bend out of the "I" as that is what we run our option Package out of , for the most part.
Coach Easton
J.C. EASTON<BR>HEAD COACH<BR>GA TIGERS FOOTBALL<BR>PROFESSIONAL MINOR LEAGUE
Post by Coach Nicholson on Jan 28, 2006 16:52:29 GMT
This "cutback" play sounds very interesting. Im going to have to look thru Coach Campbell's manual that I have and probably get ahold of the Curtis dvd's.
I couldn't find it in Campbell's Manual. I have seen it discussed on the first Curtis DVD, I guess I will have to get the QB and OL ones to get the whole deal...
I know they mostly run out of split backs. Is this play the counter dive where the back that the QB opens up to comes across the face of the QB or does the back get it like regular dive and then cuts back?
Tiger One- How do you block your Bendback vs a 4-4 ? My HC is afraid that the 2 technique will make the play and it is a tough block for the backside guard, I tend to agree.
Does anyone have any info. on this play, particularly how it is blocked vs. various fronts? The dive back takes ISV steps then cuts it back off the mesh.
ISV...Cutback from Fullback's path from FLEXBONE FORMATION.
FB takes normal ISV path. He reads the first down lineman inside the QB's read. Ex. 50 def. QB is reading a 5 tech the FB will read the first DL inside....0 tech. The FB may bend back behind the center's block (never crossing the Center's original alignment).
Same principle as FB belly out of the I except QB does not reverse pivot.
QB must keep front foot from being overextended. Do not want to cutoff the FB's bendback path. He may begin to bend while the ball is still engaged in the FB's belly.
It's not a called play..it's built in..FB must keep eyes open and read...that is why I've always contended that you still read a 4i and 4..it's not an automatic PULL because of the FB's read and his ability to bend back.
Blocking remains the same. Teams will begin to over pursue on tail motion.
Just to add a little credence...This is how we ran it at Ga. Southern in the late 80's and 90's. Nothing revolutionary.
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Thanks for the info. I am a little worried about how the FB bending back might change the mesh slightly and possible cause fumbles. What was the FB aiming point on ISV, inside hip of guard? I assume you looped the play side (guard to playside LB blocking for the dive and outside release OT to LB for QB) and scooped the back side? What about vs a shaded nose (1 and 5 playside), would you double team here, or just plan on a cutback?
If you have the cut back installed, do you run FB trap? It seems unnecessary.
quote: Originally posted by: CUI Thanks for the info. I am a little worried about how the FB bending back might change the mesh slightly and possible cause fumbles.
I always did too...but the runner ran under control and made the read..QB has to make a decision by the time FB got to QB's front foot.
What was the FB aiming point on ISV, inside hip of guard? ....Crack of the G to outside cheek..
I assume you looped the play side (guard to playside LB blocking for the dive and outside release OT to LB for QB) and scooped the back side? It's really no different than running a true zone blocking scheme true stretch..don't have Ol blocking back
What about vs a shaded nose (1 and 5 playside), would you double team here, or just plan on a cutback? Center would have to reach him with BSG stretching also..then natural cutback takes place. Too hard ... check the other way.
If you have the cut back installed, do you run FB trap? We did have it in but only ran a few times..You're right became moot. It seems unnecessary.
If you don't want to use the bend back principle then I would use the trap...as Lou states above...it's great against an odd defense...
vs even def. the natural bend back takes place against the frontside 2 tech so the bend may never end up backside of center.
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Running back takes first three steps same, recieves handoff and cuts back off of c's block. If there is a 1 or 2 tech, center and guard will fold block.
QB takes first step like inside veer, then slides back giving back area behind center.
Linemen take inside power step then get upfield on backers, don't block anthing beyond 3 tech.
Post by EthanGrant04 on Sept 18, 2008 11:12:56 GMT
Is it possible for the quarterback to run this cut back play? I've never heard of it. We have Traps with the Quarterback and the Fullback replaces the puller works very nice.
I don't think this would work very well with the QB as the ballcarrier. The biggest advantage to cutback is the veer look and then breaking against it--using the QB to pull flow of the LB's. QB trap is good, but it is not cutback.
Ryan Kelly
Offensive Coordinator
Austin High School
Austin, MN
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Ok thanks I'm just not understanding the blocking scheme for this cutback play. I've seen some fullbacks cut back behind a zero nose that slanted playside. I beleive Navy has a play in which both sides of the line seal block and the fullback just finds a seam in the middle. I like the way this sounds though.
went to DEMEO clinic this year and he says one of the main reasons he switched to GUN triple vs UC was the cutback possibilities.he says it has eliminated his need for counters and traps off option and i'm becoming a believer.we are having a dream season with this offense(out of split back though) and our best RB has cut back for several TD's off the mesh.No special play though.Just normal veer out of Gun and normal blocking and let him read the hole.need to make sure backside guys are doing their job.only problem is he likes cutting back so much that he's missed the hole a few times so we corrected that with reps reps reps.