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I would like to hear from coaches regarding their feelings on using either one base defense, and have different schemes, etc., or do you feel it is more beneficial to run multiple defenses (5-2. 5-3, 3-3, 4-3, etc) ?
I feel jumping from an odd scheme (e.g.3-3, 3-5, 50) to an even scheme (4-3, 4-4) is to much of a difference, especially for the down lineman.
I think the more successful high school programs stay with one Base defense, learn it well, rep it to hell, and just show various looks/stunts from that.
We began the season with a 4-3 and ended in the 3-3. Our main purpose of doing this was to get more speed on the field - and quite honestly, we did not have 4 good DL. With this said, it was just a personnel issue for us. DL comes out and a nickel guy goes out. ALL TERMINOLOGY was the same except we called our Nickel back the DOG. so there was really no confusion!
In the 30 Look, we were solid vs the spread. HOWEVER, to ask our OLB's to come up and take on a TE was a demanding chore for our guys - if teams went to a TE set. We did not have the horses to do this. Teams were able to line up and run the ball down our throat. So going back to the 40 would have given us an advantage.
Have always felt that no matter what level I coached, MULTIPLE LOOKS were the way to go. On the HS level, I always felt like my kids were quite capable of mastering it with not many problems. Now, if you have a bunch who are not the sharpest tacks in the box, then perhaps the basics is all they can handle and it would be foolish to try to make them absorb something they are not capable of. On my level today, it is nothing to see 5-6 different fronts and as many complimentary coverages in an average 10 play drive! Our base is a DALLAS 42 (4-2-5) But we have some 35 different 50 looks alone. I really think that only you can really make an intelligent decision on which way to go, because without knowing your personnel
it would be impossible to make an intelligent decision for an outsider. Just my opinon as always.
Coach Easton
J.C. EASTON<BR>HEAD COACH<BR>GA TIGERS FOOTBALL<BR>PROFESSIONAL MINOR LEAGUE
I was a firm believer in using your base defense and sticking with it when I first started. But over the years, I have changed to 100% supporting using different looks. We keep everything simple, because we're not very smart before we put the equipment on, and I think those heavy helmets must slow down the blood flow to the brain, and basically use the same stunts & blitzes. We go over the base position we would like to our guys to line up in, and then branch off of that with reps right at the beginning of the season. We see so many different types of offenses on our schedule, and we also want to attack their weaknesses with our best possible players. This year we could line up in a 3-3, 4-2, 4-3, 4-4, 5-2, 5-3, 6-2, or 6-3 and have our stunt, blitz and coverages to use out of each. Our key was getting guys to understand the keys to each defense just like a QB would be reading it, and what we could not do out of each. It's great to see your guys line up and be able to stem directly to the set they need to counter the offense's adjustments. I truly believe that if our "rocket surgeons" can do it, then anyone can. Hope this helps.
coach,
I think it is important to base out of a certain defense. IN MY OPINION IF YOU TEACH KIDS THE BASICS of gap ctrl, keys/reads, and pass keys, then you can almost taylor your defense to stop the offense. I am not saying a new defense every week but if the players are well schooled in the fundementals, that will give you some flexibility. So, in answering your question, I think multiple defenses is the way to go and is vital to success against an evenmatched opponent
At the high school level, I do not see successful programs running multiple defenses. I see teams running different fronts only IF NEEDED to defend something that they could not particularly stop in their base defense, and that's it. Multiple fronts may cause confusion-- but for whom?
Lou Cella
Head Varsity Football Coach
Greater Nanticoke Area High School (PA)
Very good point. I recently attended a clinic in which the Illinois 2A State Champion head coach talked about his team's 4-4 defense. Instead of coming up with 100 different ways to skin the same cat, the coaches at this school simply utilized very basic core concepts and spent MOST of their time teaching kids how to read keys, defeat blocks, tackle, and cover receivers. The result over the last 20 years has been over 200 wins at this particular school, including a 14-0 season this past year.
In high school, I think that it is a much better approach to spend time on the FUNDAMENTALS of the game rather than on the CONCEPTS of the game. With all other things being equal, a team that is fundamentally sound will probably beat a team that is not.
Do you guys not play against any REALLY GOOD TEAMS? Any offense worth it's salt is going to DESTROY a team that stays in one look all night. Your looking at a pro with the "i " backs one play, your looking at a spread that stretches both horizontally and vertically the next, your looking at at an empty gun with 5 wides spread from sideline to sideline the next. How are you possibly going to stay in the same defense against a real offense that has that capability? I just don't see the value of that approach unless your playing teams that only have the capability of running one or two formations.
They run motion deep, flat, yoyo, on every play and will create mismatches all night on you. They will shift
on 3 out of 5 plays run. They will come out and shift to formations that are totally unorthodox and there is a good chance your kids have never even seen them before. Does this happen on the HS level, you bet it does in our neck of the woods.
Coach Easton
J.C. EASTON<BR>HEAD COACH<BR>GA TIGERS FOOTBALL<BR>PROFESSIONAL MINOR LEAGUE
Defense is all about fundamentals. If your players can't get off blocks, run to the football, and tackle THE BEST SCHEMES IN THE WORLD ARE WORTHLESS! When I go to the Pennsylvania State Championship games every year, and I've been at the state games since 1998, I see teams playing the same front and playing very basic. I have NEVER seen a team from Pennsylvania win a state championship running a blitz-oriented defense. NEVER! CB West used to sit in a 5-2 and play ball. That's exactly how I play defense.
I coached under a guy who played on the defensive line for four years for the Jets under Bill Parcells, Bill Belichick, Romeo Crennel, Al Groh, and Eric Mengini and he constantly emphacized how when he played for BILL BELICHICK they did not get complicated. Color commentators make Belichick out to be like this guy who runs 100's of defenses. He doesn't! He makes no more than three adjustments/game! I know this because I coached for a guy who played for him! Watch the Patriots play this season. They play a 3-4, they play a 2-4 for their nickel, they don't zone blitz much, if ever, and they play cover 1 funnel, and cover 2 the majority of the time. On the goal-line they play a 6-2 or a 6-5. Occasionally they play Cover 8 (4 deep, 4 under). However, they never make more than three adjustments/game... and that's a fact!
Lou Cella
Head Varsity Football Coach
Greater Nanticoke Area High School (PA)
Do you guys not play against any REALLY GOOD TEAMS? Any offense worth it's salt is going to DESTROY a team that stays in one look all night. Your looking at a pro with the "i " backs one play, your looking at a spread that stretches both horizontally and vertically the next, your looking at at an empty gun with 5 wides spread from sideline to sideline the next. How are you possibly going to stay in the same defense against a real offense that has that capability? I just don't see the value of that approach unless your playing teams that only have the capability of running one or two formations.
They run motion deep, flat, yoyo, on every play and will create mismatches all night on you. They will shift
on 3 out of 5 plays run. They will come out and shift to formations that are totally unorthodox and there is a good chance your kids have never even seen them before. Does this happen on the HS level, you bet it does in our neck of the woods.
Coach Easton
Coach -
I think that there is a BIG difference between making adjustments and running multiple defenses.
How are you - going to the shg clinic again this year?
The best teams I coached or played for/against had the ability to ADJUST into different fronts/looks. Depending on your personnel it is very easy to go from a 4-3 to a 3-4 and vice versa - it becomes a little of an over/under look.
I agree the schemes/fronts can't overload the players but I know from personnel experience at one job that we carried at least 2 defenses into every game - and we'd usually change in crucial situations which REALLY played games with the offense - I've seen several good Ohio and Michigan teams do similar things....
I think the key is that the players have to be fundamentally sound AND you need to be able to do different things on both sides of the ball - and that can be done a VARIETY of ways.
Football is really only a few things:
1)Blocking & Block Protection
2)Tackling
3)Ball Security/Field Position
The rest is all just window dressing - the best teams do those things well - Period.
I agree with you and your one sentence about there being a big difference between the two. It is just my contention that making adjustments really constitutes another defense in lots of instances. I am of the opinion that stemming is much more efective after the snap than aligning in any adjustment you can make
in the PSL. Just my opinion as always.
Coach Easton
J.C. EASTON<BR>HEAD COACH<BR>GA TIGERS FOOTBALL<BR>PROFESSIONAL MINOR LEAGUE
Your statement that "defense is all about fundamentals " is just as applicable to ANY FACET OF FOOTBALL,
IMO. To be certain, there are certain axioms that apply to ANY defense, no matter what it is, just as there are those that apply to ANY offense. I think that the best defensive mind in the NFL belongs to Tony Dungy. That does not mean, however, that I embrace his entire philosophy. I think that defensive staff of the Steelers are absolutely excellent! But, I make this statement and will not back off of it. IF YOU HAVE TOP NOTCH PLAYERS WHO ARE THE VERY BEST AT THEIR POSITIONS AND CAN MAKE ADJUSTMENTS ON THE DEAD RUN, THEN I WOULD AGREE THAT A BASE ALIGNMENT OF YOUR DEFENSE CAN BE PRETTY MUCH SUCCESSFUL. But, most HS level teams just do not possess those type of players and, imo, should be placed in multiple defensive formations either by stemming or PSL alignments in order to be successful.
Just my opinon as usual.
Coach Easton
J.C. EASTON<BR>HEAD COACH<BR>GA TIGERS FOOTBALL<BR>PROFESSIONAL MINOR LEAGUE
I have always believed in limiting the techniques you teach. Our interior linemen learn two techniques. We use a 1 technique and a 3 technique. We can use both in 3 techs, both in 1 techs, a 1and 3, or a 3and 1. If you combine this with teaching your ends two or three techniques, you can have multiple fronts but your players only have to learn a limited number of techniques. We combine this with three coverages (1,3,4) and have combined man and zone principles at times. When calling the defense, we call the techniques rather than the front. We do this for two reasons. First the players are thinking technique. Second, it allows us to make minor or major adjustments with out having to come up with different names for every possible front we use. Just our preference in teaching.
Coach, you think you can defend an inside veer option with a 1 and 3 technique only? Or the OSV, or the freeze option, or the trap option (counter option), or a 3 x 2 spread ? Could you expound on that so I can
see your reasoning, because right now I am in the dark as to your thinking. What techs do you play your DE's in?
Coach Easton
J.C. EASTON<BR>HEAD COACH<BR>GA TIGERS FOOTBALL<BR>PROFESSIONAL MINOR LEAGUE
I guess I did not explain that very well did I? Sorry.
We deciced that whenever a team we played had a TE in the game we would press him with our SLB. We never saw Double-Tight all year. Pretty crazy, huh? Our SDE would then learn a 4,5 tech with a 9 technique used with no TE passing downs. Our SDT plays a 1 or 3. WDT a 1 or 3. Our WDE 5 or 9. We are not that big so decided against a head-up technique.
We mostly run a Shade 50 (513) SLB-9 with TE, SDT-5, SDT-1,WDT-3,WDE-9. If we wanted to move the SDE to a 4 we call 413. Moving the DTs to a strong 3 and a weak 1 we call 531. Moving both to a 1 we call 511. I know I said you could move both DT's to 3 techniques. I have only done this in one game and called it four times. I wrote without thinking. That call scares me to death. Both ILBs play 10 or 30 techniques depending on the DT alignment.
Hope that was better. Again, sorry for not making it clear. If you want I will leave my e-mailand so we could discuss it futher and answer any other question. I am always open to new ideas and information. That is one of the reasons I joined jcfb.
Trying to be HELPFUL now, not CRITICAL. You say your play your weakside DE in a 5 or a 9 Tech. But, you also say your squad did not face a double tite end team the whole year. I take that to mean then that the openside (X end) was always flexed. That being the case, then there is no such thing as playing your WDE in a 9 tech, as a 9 tech is the outside shoulder of the TE. A 5 tech, yes (outside shouder of the WST)but no one to align on in a 9 tech. WHAT IS YOUR BASE DEFENSE, COACH? DO YOU PREFER AN ODD OR EVEN FRONT?
Coach Easton
J.C. EASTON<BR>HEAD COACH<BR>GA TIGERS FOOTBALL<BR>PROFESSIONAL MINOR LEAGUE
Post by Coach Campbell on Mar 12, 2006 8:36:02 GMT
Multiple 8 man fronts based upon tendencies and formations is what we do. Our base which is actually two fronts is the 3-3-5 and the nickle package both built upon a six man box. Coach CAmpbell
We prefer an odd front vs TE sets. Without a TE it is an even front as our SLB goes with #2 receiver. Our Base defense is a Shade 50.
Our WDE aligns 1-2 feet outside the WST. I was taught a 5 technique would align inside foot insole with the WST outside foot insole or tighter, while the 9 technique is how I describe our WDE alignmnet without a TE. Question, is our WDE alignment just a wide or loose 5 technique then since there is no TE?