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Coaches what do you tell your kids about their drops and where to LOOK?
I'm in a heated argument w/ our head coach about this(heated in that we just can't see eye to eye- not negative by any means).
I played LB in college and as we dropped we swiveled our head to see routes/ collision receivers, and we still checked draw etc.
My HC want our LB's to only watch the QB, never look at receivers.
We run a 3-4.
Your thoughts?!
thanks.
You get my nod on this one! If you don't keep your head on a swivel and only fixated on the QB, by the time the ball is on it's way it's to late to react if you don't have the receiver zeroed in! What does he want them to do when they are running a double influence pattern ( receivers from play side and open side both running in his area of responsibility) If he is counting on the QB's eyes to lead them to the right receiver, he is sadly mistaken in this day and time. Just my opinion. What exactly IS his thinking on this subject. Maybe it is very legit, but I can't imagine what it is. Would like to know his thoughts.
Coach Easton
J.C. EASTON<BR>HEAD COACH<BR>GA TIGERS FOOTBALL<BR>PROFESSIONAL MINOR LEAGUE
we have some of the biggest brickhead athletes on the planet....but they get it (pattern reading).
The biggest problem with linebackers is they never get deep enough, and consequently they can't pattern read anything.
We read backs to contrary guard read, once they get a pass read.....we really hammer on these guys to get DEPTH. We drill the 45 drops, but we're actually opening up at 75 degree bails ......just getting a depth of 12 to 15 yds of the LOS and look for crossers - typically reading #2 to #3 / or #1 to #2.
All we want them to pick up is recognize where their primary receiver read is going (inside, outside, or vertical) on each type of break that (position) linebacker has a desired (look to) reaction.
I agree with your head coach... to a point. We primarily run man free coverage, however when we run cover 2 we want our LB's (and DB's) with their eyes on the QB and if a receiver comes into their zone, position themselves between the QB and the receiver in their zone. If the receiver works into the deep part of the zone, get there. We were practicing cover 2 in the gym on Saturday. Also, it is important for the LB's (and DB's) to keep their eyes on the QB, because if the QB rolls, we roll the zone. Each defender now moves over one zone. This prevents a team from flooding us. I hope this helped, especially from someone who runs the 3-4.
Lou Cella
Head Varsity Football Coach
Greater Nanticoke Area High School (PA)
In my opinion, the DB who plays any kind of zone is putting himself at a disadvantage! My reasoning for this thought is simply as a long time QB coach and knowing how QB's who are correctly trained are taught to simply throw into the void created by the defender of that zones OWN MOVEMENT. Whatever way he moves he is creating a void in the opposite direction and that is where the receiver and the QB know they have the advantage. Why? Becasue the receiver knows that the QB is taught to always throw into the voided area and away from the defender EVERY TIME. Granted, there are some very talented defensive backs out there who can recover in time to make a great play every now and then. But, on a CONSISTENT BASIS, IMO, THE RECEIVER IS GOING TO BEAT THE DB MORE OFTEN THAN NOT. He does this by running routes with great discipline and precision like execution. Take a close mesh route for example where the offfense sets a TE at 6 yds over the ball and has a backside receiver run the mesh at 5yds. Your never going to convince me that the MIKE, by reading the QB all the way and not pattern read
will be able to defend it successfully on A consistent BASIS. Just my opinion as always.
Coach Easton
J.C. EASTON<BR>HEAD COACH<BR>GA TIGERS FOOTBALL<BR>PROFESSIONAL MINOR LEAGUE
Coach cella,
With no disrespect HOW can a LB "position himself" if he is not alowed to LOOK at where he is?!
Our head coach thinks that they will get out of position by running to receivers. he ONLY wants them to read QB eyes. They are to take 3 big steps at a 45 angle and square up they are to mirror any roll of QB and break when ball is released, w/out ever looking at the receivers.
On top of that he says they are to collision them when their paths cross. How do you do that if you cant turn your head to see them?
He never played the position, I did and i know I can coach it. I'm really unhappy with this. I feel my kids are handcuffed on passes.
Thanks very much for your replies!
Peripheral vision allows him to do this. Now, if you're saying that a linebacker cannot do this, then certainly you are going to have a tough time teaching what your head coach wants you to teach. Much like Coach Easton, I am not a big fan of zone coverage, as I do believe that man is easier to teach and more effective in today's game; however, there will be times that we need to run cover 2. If you rep zone drops enough, the linebackers are going to be able to drop to an area in his sleep. That's my best suggestion to you at this time.
Lou Cella
Head Varsity Football Coach
Greater Nanticoke Area High School (PA)
Your last statement is just conformation to me when you stated that your HC wants your LB's to take 3 step, big ones at that, at a 45 degree angle! To me and my QB's that means simply whatever side he favors in his 45 degree stepping, we are immediately going to hit the influence from the opposite direction! He can have great peripheral vision as Lou says, but does he have the QUICKNESS to recover in time to stop a bullet from the QB to the opposite side? I would think not. Just my opinion as always.
Coach Easton
J.C. EASTON<BR>HEAD COACH<BR>GA TIGERS FOOTBALL<BR>PROFESSIONAL MINOR LEAGUE
We only play about 20% of straight cover 3, probably 30% of cover 3 hot (when we send 5) and 50% man. We spot drop and stress as much depth as possible while keeping eyes on QB (periphing receivers). Since we do not play a ton of straight cover 3, we feel playing it this way is best for us. I believe that zone coverages are when you get most INT's, so you better have your eyes on the trigger man as much as possible.
You mean to tell me that your head man is stubborn. I would have never known that about BB.
Only kidding. This is center fron OHS. I don't have a lot of input on the topic, it just struck me funny to see you talk about your HC. I do believe that the LB needs to be aware of the receivers in his zone.
hey center!
good to hear from you, since you know him you know what i'm up against :-)
We totally respect each other and get along well- heck that is why I came over here form the school i teach at, but I think there are somethings I know that he doesn't. THAT being one of them.
How are YOU and your program doing?
Things are going fine here. the only edge that I have is I don't have to argue with the head coach. It has been a good off-season, a lot of kids out for track and baseball right now.
I always felt the spot drop was a good way to introduce zone and show kids their landmarks. It also made for any easy progression to pattern reads, they kind of tie in to each other. the nice thing about pattern read is you don't guard the grass, you are always after a man.
A good resource that I have found are Fritz Shurmurs book Coaching Team Defense and his tape on Zone Coverage. These two resources will help your abilty to understand and coach zone defense.
TWO EXCELLENT POINTS IN YOUR LAST POST! IN ORDER FOR THEM TO SEE THE BALL RELEASED, THEY HAVE TO BE LOOKING AT THE QB, GRANTED. BUT, I HAVE ALWAYS BEEN OF THE OPINION THAT THEY BETTER KEEP THEIR HEAD ON A SWIVEL AND KNOW WHERE THE INTRUDERS ARE AT ALL TIMES TOO.
Just my opinion as always.
Jerry
J.C. EASTON<BR>HEAD COACH<BR>GA TIGERS FOOTBALL<BR>PROFESSIONAL MINOR LEAGUE
Jerry - getting the proper depth on drops helps them "periph" everything. Keeping the head on the "swivel" is very important, as you said. Due to the fact that they are playing underneath zones - they must get even a quicker break on the ball than the secondary!
The elbow of the QB's non-throwing arm (when it comes down be prepared to "break"), his front shoulder (his radar gun), & his eyes (he will be looking where he is going to throw) are a GOOD giveaways.
Oneback,
Can you elaborate a little on your last post. When you were referring to the off elbow coming down by the QB and he had better be ready to break.
Thanks
I'm sure Bill will be with you shortly, I just happened to see your post. When a QB delivers the football properly, his left elbow(off arm for a right handed QB and vice versa for a southpaw) will pull sharply downward. By observing this, the LB knows the ball has been released and once in the air it can't change direction, thus he knows exactly where to break to collision the receiver.
Coach Easton
J.C. EASTON<BR>HEAD COACH<BR>GA TIGERS FOOTBALL<BR>PROFESSIONAL MINOR LEAGUE
WARRIOR - some coaches teach watching the left hand (when it comes off the ball be prepared to "break"). We do the same thing by watching the left elbow & when it pulls down - be prepared to "break". This way brief pumps or pats on the ball do not fool us.
As to the landmark ("field geography") or pattern read drops - IMO one is a good as the other. Dropping to a landmark is EASIER to teach in HS than pattern reading, but once again - one is as good as the other! I have taught BOTH in a 40+ year career.