Installing Today’s Hybrid Pistol Offense Run & Pass from Top to Bottom
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Anyone have any great ideas about using 44 defense vs double wing offense? Or for that matter any other defense? Double wing scares the begeebers out of me. It's a train coming down the tracks with no intention of stopping. Any thoughts would be appreciated, or resources. thanks for your response.
Put your OLB's on the outside shoulder of the WB's and funnel everything inside to your scraping ISLB's.
If they throw more than run, replace your OSLB's with true DB types and roll them up hard on the WB's and play hard man under and cover #2 deep. Just a suggestion as always.
Coach Easton
J.C. EASTON<BR>HEAD COACH<BR>GA TIGERS FOOTBALL<BR>PROFESSIONAL MINOR LEAGUE
Coachtom are you refering to a Double Tight, Double Wing offense like Markham or (the other guys name is escaping me right now)? We face that type of offense twice a year. This past year we ran a 4-4 against it and had pretty good success. Neither team was able to run the ball consistently, but one was able to throw it quite well as we couldn't match up athletically against it.
What we did was we flipped our traditional DE's and DT's around, so we had our quicker DL playing the 2 DT's and aligning head up on the GD's. There job was to play trap and try to get in the hip pocket of the pulling GD, which we weren't able to do, but by forcing the Center to block back on one DT, and the GD blocking the other, a crease was opening right over the center's orignal alignment. We blitzed that crease a few times with good success. Our DE's then were to attack the TE and drive back or at least get a stalemate. Once again we had put our biggest and strogest at this position. Our OLB"S were aligned 1 yard off the LOS, head up on the WB's, if motion to them, they moved up to the LOS and blitzed aiming to (trap) the FB on his KO path, blocking the pulling GD and Tackle from getting around the down blocking TE. If we did that well, we bounced the basic toss play and cleaned it up with our CB and pursing LB's. CB's read WB for pass or the down block on the OLB, which signified Sweep. The FS read the TE towards the motion for the pass, run reads. LB's read FB to GD and played from a depth of 4 yards.
Since you had the DTs in 2 Techniques, am I correct to assume that you had them slant to motion? Also did you play cover 3 or roll to cover 2 with the motion? We are a 4-4 team and we were beaten up by 1 of the 2 double wing teams that we played. Thanks in advance for your response.
No, we didn't slant them, as we felt that left us vulnerable to trap and to wedge. Their job was to stop trap. We played c/3 until motion occured and then we became man, you could easily play a cover two and roll up the CB where the motion is coming to. The only pass that hurt us from their base formation was an explode pass where there isn't any motion and the 2 TE's run seam routes and the WB's run flags. The QB did a good job of looking off the FS and through to the backside TE.
Actually I thought of playing a 5 man front. Align my SOLB in a 9, SDE in a 5, SDT in a 1, WDT in a 5 and WDE in a 9. The two ILBs would still play 30 techniques. The SCB and WOLB would align 4 yards deep and 1 yard outside wing. The FS and WCB would align over TEs at depth of 8 to 10 yards. I plan to use this as my change up this year. Have never considered a 7 man front. How do you play it ?
Word of caution, take it or leave it. If you move your safeties over the TE's as you say, any QB worth his salt will make you pay for that mistake. Just my opinion as always.
Coach Easton
J.C. EASTON<BR>HEAD COACH<BR>GA TIGERS FOOTBALL<BR>PROFESSIONAL MINOR LEAGUE
What are your thoughts(success stories) about front 8 alignment and coverage against the Markham style double wing/double TE basing out of a 4-4? We were hammered by the offtackle play so my first concern is to stop that. Thanks in advance for any thoughts.
Play a true 4-4 stack is a changeup we use.Tackles head up on the Guard's LB's stacked behind them;Defensive Ends head up over the TE's OLB's stacked behind them.Play games with stunts and blitzes,cover-3 behind it.We also play 2's and 7's and walk up the OLB's over the WB's and play a 6-2.I like to tell the DT's they are responsible for wedge and trap,DE's have off-tackle plays,OLB's try to funnel everything inside while making it hard for the WB's to get off the L.O.S. and let the LB's read guard's and run everything down.Attack all pulling players with force and try to blow it up in the backfield.Let the down linemen try to take down to offensive players so noone gets to 2nd level.
Coach Em -
2 years ago that was our alignment vs the double tight wings. We are a 5-2 team so it is a naturl fit for us. We had an outstanding NT that year and it worked extremely well. Last year, we didn't have as good of a NT, so I didn't feel we could leave the middle that open - so we went to the 4 front and walked up the OLB's so in essence we were a 6-2.
A play that hurt the 5-2 was double dive.
7 man front is in essence a Bear 46 vs it. There would be a 9, 7, 3, 0, 3, 7, 9. The two 7 tech's would have to be studs as they couldn't be moved by the TE when they block down and they would also have man to man responsiblity on the TE. 2 ILB's would stack the 3 tech and the 2 safeties would have the WB's man to man until they go in motion. Then one safety would be a counter player and free vs pass.
We haven't ran it in a game yet, but I think we have the personnel this year to do it and I am leaning towards using it this fall.
Coach Easton:
You stated, "If you move your safeties over the TE's as you say, any QB worth his salt will make you pay for that mistake."
As an ex-QB and lifelong QB coach, QB's are taught to ALWAYS TAKE ADVANTAGE OF A MIDDLE OF THE FIELD OPEN SITUATION. Receivers are taught to read, in my offense, as well and are coached to get into the middle of the field if it is open. By taking your FS out of the middle of the field to cover a tight end, a dropping LB will be the only other guy to cover the middle of the field, right? A good receiver should be able to win that matchup most often. Granted, you have covered the double tites, but what if your CB can't run with the WR and needs that Safety to roll over and help him, on say a post corner for example? He can't do that if he has the TE responsibility, right? That's basically my thinking. We pray for a MOFO situation.
Coach Easton
J.C. EASTON<BR>HEAD COACH<BR>GA TIGERS FOOTBALL<BR>PROFESSIONAL MINOR LEAGUE
Coach Easton thanks for explaining. To explain why we put the safeties where we did. Against any offense we want to stop what they are good at. Most Markham offenses want to run and run and run and run etc... They will keep pounding the ball until something gives. Generally speaking they don't practice passing much, instead they focus on running fundamentals. The teams that run double tight double wing, break the formation when they need to pass the ball. So we felt very comfortable playing our safeties there.