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Last year we went back and forth between the guards and the fullback. The fullback read was problematic against double-dive and counter.
Which of the following do you guys recommend:
1)Guards
2)Fullback
3) Tailback
4)One backer reads the fullback the other the tailback
4) Combination of guards to backfield (which I find difficult for the kids to grasp since we see so much wing-T where we read strictly the guards out of the 5-2) Maybe there is an easier way to teach this particular read for the kids?
We have tried FB to guard, but like you said, it is tough, especially if your guys play 2 ways and can't get the reps in practice. I think the straight guard read is the way to go. That should get them going in the right direction, then we let them play football.
Our ILBs read FB and cross key with the OG. If the OG doesn't pull, ILB collisions FB. If OG pulls, ILB redirects and looks for trap away. Against Wing-T or I formation, that is the BEST read, IMO.
I think the key to defending the Wing-T counter or I formation trap has more to do with your OLB play than your ILB play.
We will read the OG to the side the FB goes. So, if the FB goes to the offense's left, the ILB will read the LG. If the LG stays home, ILB will look to collision the FB. If the LG pulls right, that means trap away and ILB will redirect. We don't read TB at all. Our ILB reads are the EXACT SAME for Wing-T, Bone, or I. FB-to-OG tells us pretty much everything we have to know.
GLAD TO HAVE YOU BACK MAN! You have seen my posts on the guards being the windows to their soul many times, I'm sure. I still believe that! HOWEVER, in this day of false keys I teach read THRU THE GUARDS TO THE BACKS. If you read only the guards you are setting yourself up for a counter gap, etc.
In todays football, it is imperative, IMO, that you read it as I described above. Just my opinion as always.
Coach Easton
J.C. EASTON<BR>HEAD COACH<BR>GA TIGERS FOOTBALL<BR>PROFESSIONAL MINOR LEAGUE
If your in a 5-2 against an "I", I always like to have Mike read thru the guards to FB, Sam to read thru the guards to the TB. If pass developes, they both would take the back out to their respective sides. If both backs flood the same side, The SS would take first man out and the Sam would take 2nd man out while the Mike stays home and looks for possible reverses, cutbacks, etc. In order to keep the MOF closed in this instance I have the FS tighten down and have to rely on the CB's not to need help. Just my way as always.
Coach Easton
J.C. EASTON<BR>HEAD COACH<BR>GA TIGERS FOOTBALL<BR>PROFESSIONAL MINOR LEAGUE
Post by Coach Nicholson on May 18, 2006 21:13:12 GMT
quote: Originally posted by: TIGER ONE JOHN,
GLAD TO HAVE YOU BACK MAN! You have seen my posts on the guards being the windows to their soul many times, I'm sure. I still believe that! HOWEVER, in this day of false keys I teach read THRU THE GUARDS TO THE BACKS. If you read only the guards you are setting yourself up for a counter gap, etc.
In todays football, it is imperative, IMO, that you read it as I described above. Just my opinion as always.
Coach Easton
Jerry,
With the kids I am coaching we must keep it as simple as possible. We have enough trouble with kids reading the backfield but I do understand what you are saying.
The guards to FB seems to be the most reliable approach, with the guards over riding everything else. Wing-T waggle will cause problems in terms of pass/run recognition for the MLBERS.
Hey guys, why not read backfield flow against the I?
We teach four types of flows: Fast, slow, divided and option. That pretty much covers what you have to defend against the I and also helps LB's have a pre-read on the flow against One back teams that use two tight ends or TE-Hback combinations.
Just a thought.
"The road to Easy Street goes through the sewer." John Madden
Could you give me some examples of each type of flow?
Describe read and responsibilities vs. Iso, Power, Trap, Toss, Counter, and the options (midline, inside, and outside veer). Thanks
Coach, that would take up a lot of space in one answer, but maybe in several posts if you're interested I can describe how we do it against the I.
I'm talking about a 4-3 defense since in the original post the coach did not specify what defense he uses. It can apply to any other defense though.
Fast flow indicates both backs are going in the same direction aiming outside the offensive tackle, like in a toss sweep. All lb's need to fast flow to the next available hole, cutback hole also moves for the backside LB.
Slow flow indicates both backs are going in the same direction inside the offensive tackle, like in a power or ISO. If power, all backers should attack the LOS NOW and wrong arm any block they encounter. If ISO, we fill ISO hole with two LB's each "ripping" a different shoulder of the FB.
Divided flow indicates we see the backs go different ways, such as in quick trap, counter, inside zone, etc. In this case, backside LB needs to shuffle and slow down his pursuit, as does backside DE if unblocked since both need to be alert to naked pass and cutback; there is one more hole to fill on their side.
Option flow is a world of it's own. We practice this hard if the teams we will face have option as their core offense. Option need lots of repetition not only defensively, but offensively too. In general, this flow indicates both runners going in the same direction but with different angles (of course freeze option and other plays change this).
All this rules change if we're doing line stunts vs run which are excellent against power teams.
Key Guards to WHICHEVER BACK THAT TAKES YOU TO THE P.O.A. THE HIGHEST % OF THE TIME! % figured out from film on opponent. I.E. if the TB takes you to the POA 90% of the time, & the FB only 75% - WHY KEY THE FB?? This changes game to game!
Keying GUARDS to the BALL isn't bad either. The BALL is the greatest SINGLE key in the game - since there is only ONE ball in the game, & they can't score unless it crosses the goal line!!!!!
I believe I did indicate in the first post that the 5-2 was the base. Coach marquez, I am a little confused on your reads for divided flow, which to me is the biggest pain in the ass for the kids to read. How do you determine backside on divided flow??? Oneback film study does help with FB or TB taking you toward the play, but I have faced offensive coaches who pick up who the backers are reading and change their tendencies in game. I know you can adjust your reads, but I do not prefer changing in game which brings confusion. The only real problem is divided flow. How do you guys deal with divided flow.
JKEEPERMAN: No key has ever been invented that cannot be broken!!!!!
First of all - your keys should depend on your PASS COVERAGE (which you never mentioned). In M/M - your LBers are FORCED to key BACKS. In ZONE - they can underkey the Guards to the ball (preferably) OR near back!!!!! Keys MUST CHANGE WITH COVERAGES!!!!!
Always take into consideration what PASS COVERAGE you are playing when determing LBer keys or reads!!!!!
That is an excellent point!!! So basically what you are saying is that in man coverage key the back to your side and in zone the guard. My only hesitation is that we see 85% run and most teams we face either pass on predictable downs or lack precise execution in the passing game, therefore I look for run stopping keys first and foremost.
Teams that run the ball 85% end up BEATING you on a pass you least expected - PARTICULARLY play action (AFTER you have "stuffed the run").
In MAN - you CANNOT lose sight of the MAN you are covering coming out of the backfield, PERIOD! In ZONE - key thru the Guards to the ball! I ran the 5-2 for 24 years (as well as playing in it in High School for 4 years, & 1 year in College). The reads above were the best we ever used.
We won many a game at Raines with that exact philosophy!!! We were a true option team, throwing only 10-12 times a night. But, after you get them sucked in expecting an ISV or some complimentary play, then we would hit them with play action and lots of times we would really catch them with their pants down for the home run!
Coach Easton
J.C. EASTON<BR>HEAD COACH<BR>GA TIGERS FOOTBALL<BR>PROFESSIONAL MINOR LEAGUE
I agree that if your LB's are in personal coverage with the running backs, that's who they should be focused on. I thought the question only involved zone coverage. Of course, playing man against an I formation the LB's will have to execute a divide technique or something similar which in escence is flow reading.
Who is backside on divided flow? That's defined by a second read on where the ball is, but we normally think backside is where the FB goes, specially against zone running teams. Depends on scouting too.
Yes, a good way to defend a running team that likes to make their big pass plays out of play-action is to be aggresive and play some type of man coverage. You could only be pressuring with four and having one or two LB's free to run to the ball (no coverage responsability). But playing personal coverage will get your secondary focused on the receivers and not see/buy the run fakes.