Installing Today’s Hybrid Pistol Offense Run & Pass from Top to Bottom
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We will be running the midline, inside and outside veer. What kind of line split rules should we keep in mind. We are usually about 2 feet between OL (in the past when running lead, power, toss, counter, etc).
Because we use multiple options with all being called on the L.O.S. we use two foot splits. With the midline and due to the proximity of the read you can widen the 3 as mention by Lou. Coach CAmpbell
Post by Coach Nicholson on Jul 9, 2006 10:42:44 GMT
Well what would be the con's of extremely wide splits (bigger than 30 inches)?? I have been talking with the other guys I coach with about how wide we want to have our splits this year and one of them mentioned moving the read too far out. We are leaning toward going with 24 inch splits b/c we have concerns about our line not being able to handle going any wider. Would you guys share your thoughts??
24 inch splits are absolutely necessary for basic iso, toss, kickout, and zone schemes, but if you need to effectively run the midline and the veer, the splits should be a MINIMUM of three feet so that 1. running lanes are created and 2. the read key is widened. If the read key is closer to the dive, he will be able to take the dive effectively. As someone who has run the triple option for years, I need to be able to dive effectively. Anything that can help a triple option team do that is beneficial.
John, did you convince your head coach to use the point method to run the triple? Let me know.
Lou Cella
Head Varsity Football Coach
Greater Nanticoke Area High School (PA)
When running triple option, the playside linemen should be up as close to the ball as possible. This prevents any penetration by the defense. On the backside, if you are scoop blocking, the linemen can back up so that they can scoop their assigned defender.
Lou Cella
Head Varsity Football Coach
Greater Nanticoke Area High School (PA)
WHEN WE RAN THE ISV/OSV FROM THE PRO WITH THE "I"BACKS AND BONE, ALWAYS SPLIT AT 2 FT BETWEEN C-G-T AND 2.5 FT FROM T -TE. WHEN ZONE BLOCKING ALWAYS SPLIT FROM 18-24 INCHES.
WE ALWAYS ALIGNED ON THE CENTER'S BELT BUCKLE TO AVOID ALIGNING IN THE NEUTRAL ZONE AND GETTING A CRITICAL PENALTY AT THE WRONG TIME! IF ZONE BLOCKING FOR AN ISZ PLAY WE WOULD CHEAT UP A LITTLE TO INSURE GETTING A GOOD VETICAL PUSH, BUT NOT ENOUGH TO TIP THE DEFENSE! I, PERSONALLY, WOULD NOT CARE FOR LOU'S SCHEME OF HAVING SET STANDARDS FOR ONE SIDE OF THE LINE AND ANOTHER SET FOR THE BACKSIDE AS IN THE EXAMPLE OF SCOOP BLOCKING HE USES, AS TO ME THAT WOULD CREATE A VERY NOTICIBLE TENDENCY. WIDE SPLITS ARE A SPECIAL TACTIC TO ISOLATE A DEFENDER AND PIT YOUR BEST AGAINST THEIR BEST, AND AS LOU SAYS TO WIDEN THE RUNNING LANE. BUT, I ALWAYS WENT BY THE OLD ADAGE: THE WIDER THE SPLIT, THE DEEPER THE PENETRATION. I SAW KEN HATFIELD USE WIDE SPLITS TO RUN THE OPTION AS A SPECIAL GAME PLAN AGAINST FLA STATE ONE NIGHT WHEN MY BOY PLAYED FOR HIM AT CLEMSON AND WAS VERY SUCCESSFUL WITH IT, LOSING BY A COSTLY FUMBLE IN THE WANING MINUTES OF THE GAME AFTER FIGHTING BACK FROM A 10-0 DEFICIT EARLY ON TO TAKE THE LEAD AND WINNING RIGHT UP UNTIL ABOUT 4 MINUTES TO GO IN THE GAME WHEN CHARLIE WARD LED A GREAT COMEBACK DRIVE TO WIN FOR FSU. LOU KNOWS ME WELL ENOUGH TO KNOW I AM CERTAINLY NOT DISSING HIS PHILOSOPHY, JUST OFFERING MY OPINION.
Coach Easton
J.C. EASTON<BR>HEAD COACH<BR>GA TIGERS FOOTBALL<BR>PROFESSIONAL MINOR LEAGUE
In an ideal world I would do what I stated above, but honestly if I were coaching high school kids, I would just make sure that they got wider when we ran triple option.
Lou Cella
Head Varsity Football Coach
Greater Nanticoke Area High School (PA)
Three feet splits are appropriate.If a defense will go with you,get wider.But if they get in the gap,three feet is wide enough to stop the penetration.We try to scoop the backside with these splits also.Linemen are in the clipping/chopping zone.It definitely makes the defender being read/unblocked a noticeable key for the QB.
I hope your meaning cut blocking when you say chop block in your above post as a chop block is a veryDANGEROUS and illegal block. Cut blocking is, of course, acceptable and used by everybody.
Coach Easton
J.C. EASTON<BR>HEAD COACH<BR>GA TIGERS FOOTBALL<BR>PROFESSIONAL MINOR LEAGUE
Having run option at the college level, we spread our splits out as far as the DL would go. I am talking about 4 foot splits. if the DL widens with u, its a give. if they line up in the gap, who cares. you have a FB isolated on that DL and u pull.
spreading the DL out can turn a shoulder tackle into an arm tackle - and in that case the offense wins. no DL should tackle your FB in the option series with their arms.
Colerain will split up to 4 ft here in cincinnati. they have a few state championships to prove that it works.
What exactly is the difference between a cut block and a chop block in the "box"?If my interpretation is correct,a chop block is hitting a defender below the waist in front,side, or back. A cut block is just below the waist from in front.Am I correct?If it is so dangerous as you say,why isn't it illegal?How come a defensive man is allowed to tackle in this manner?Just making an argument for all the small O-linemen out there.
A Chop Block is cutting a defender below the waist while he is engaged high with another blocker. An example would be your Guard base blocking a 3 tech while your T cuts his knees. The 49ers used to make a living on it until it was outlawed.
Post by Coach Nicholson on Jul 12, 2006 7:06:00 GMT
Thanks for all the info guys! After some more discussion it seems that we are going to go with 24 inch splits across the board. This should be wide enough to create the running lanes we need without allowing the defense to easily penetrate into our backfield. We are going to scoop on the backside and of course veer block on the front side. We will also emphasize the use of chip and scoop blocks by everyone to allow for the use of combo blocks when possible.
The description of a CHOP BLOCK given by coach above is accurate. It is a very easy way to BREAK SOMEONES BACK! A team that employs dirty tactics still try to use it without getting caught! In my opinion, the first time they are caught using this illegal block should be grounds for the two players performing it to be ejected on the spot! It is that dangerous!
Coach Easton
J.C. EASTON<BR>HEAD COACH<BR>GA TIGERS FOOTBALL<BR>PROFESSIONAL MINOR LEAGUE
Further thought: A real chop block is performed by one player hitting a guy low while he is being HELD UP
by another player and is defenseless! A cut block is the act of taking out a guys knees from under him by aiming for his knees. This is a perfectly legal block and can be seen coming by the defender. DL's are coached in various ways to defend aagainst and defeat this block. I once talked with Greg DeLong who was a TE with the NFL vikings at the time about cut blocking techniques. I had showed him a technique where we punched the same shoulder with both hands turning the defender and then dropping down and cutting his knees. I had asked him if he had seen the technique before. He said he saw all kinds of techniques in college, but very quickly informed me that there is no cutting in the NFL out of respect for each other not wanting to blow another guys knees!
Coach Easton
J.C. EASTON<BR>HEAD COACH<BR>GA TIGERS FOOTBALL<BR>PROFESSIONAL MINOR LEAGUE
Post by Coach Nicholson on Jul 12, 2006 10:45:03 GMT
How do you guys breakdown responsibilities between your Oline coaches? For example when doing Individual tech. and drills in practice does one coach take Centers and Guards and the other take the Tackles??
quote: He said he saw all kinds of techniques in college, but very quickly informed me that there is no cutting in the NFL out of respect for each other not wanting to blow another guys knees!