I would say if you can't get your hands on the guard, you are now feeling pressure from the outside (T blocking down). If possible fight pressure and squeeze the hole down. When the time is right, cross face and make the play. The LB is the one who should blow this one up, in my opinion.
I am not sure what defense you are running. I would say the time to cross face is right when your gap is no longer threatened. This would be kind of like last minute before the back is in the middle of the hole. You have a good d lineman if he can make that play consistently. hopefully he can get his hands on the OG and slow him down a little.
The blitz would be an okay idea. I would rather just slant my d line or stunt them. Could you put your DE in the C gap, 3 tech in the A gap, and LB now has B?
Just some thoughts.
Our base is a 46. We go 3 0 3 with our interior line. Smart teams go double tight agianst us and run away from their two reciever side using a fold scheme on the "weak" 3. Our adjustment is the blitz described above and or putting our nose in a 1 to the weakside so he can penerate if the guard pulls. This works but creates a bubble at the strong A gap.
I am afraid to move my DE to a 6, let alone 5, as he is the primary force man.
I am looking to properly teach my D-lineman to defeat this fold scheme. As a player, I was taught to dip and rip against the down block and follow the pulling lineman. Easier said than done. Is it better to cross the OT's face? Can this be done by an average player without knowing pre-snap that the fold is coming? What is the proper technique?
Coach Scott, sometimes being over TECHNICAL can cause you to get your RESUME together...There is a reason why offenses run the fold scheme versus shaded d-lineman, so I don't know if there is one way to skin this cat....you will have to come up with more than one counter move...if you do the same counter all of the time, the offense will have a more effective counter waiting on you on the next down...you said that you base out of a 4-6 (3-0-3)look...have you ever tried using directions to get to this look as a compliment to your shaded front? For example, you could align your DT's in 4's and pinch them inside on occasion and have them attack the offensive tackle on others...when they are attacking the offensive tackles, your backers can read the windows of the offense(guards)..so if the guard pulls outside(fold)the backer can counter by scrapeing outside to find a more effective run fit....Remember it's not what you do, but how do it...and always keep the offense off balance by tweeking your attacks........
We basically teach rail/crossface. Its all about where you land on the down blocking OL. I.e. TE for a 5T or OT for a 3T. When we come off the ball we are trying to make contact to out technique, when the down blocking lineman makes contact. If our hat and hips are in our technique (gap) then we rip and rail (occurs the most). However if we react fast enough or the OL/TE does not come down fast enough then we will glady cross face. The thing about cross face is that too many times kids raise their pad levels inorder to gain the appropriatte position, or just get caught in limbo. Also if you are teaching crossface really monitor your kids. Make sure that when they are getting it right and not guess at the play or playing the drill. I would rather be quick off the ball and downed a few times a game. then slow off the ball with good reaction. Who wants to be first to make the tackle for a gain of 6.