Read Keys for C's and Safeties for run/pass

coach1619 Member Posts: 39	Read Keys for C's and Safeties for run/pass Oct 23, 2006 19:09:11 GMT Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top Post by coach1619 on Oct 23, 2006 19:09:11 GMT I was just curious to hear everyones read keys for their secondary players for Cover 3. Read end man on line of scrimmage or triangle between QB and WR, etc. Thanks

Oneback Senior Member EMAIL: billmountjoy@yahoo.com Posts: 6,223	Read Keys for C's and Safeties for run/pass Oct 23, 2006 20:57:01 GMT Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top Post by Oneback on Oct 23, 2006 20:57:01 GMT WHATEVER you read - read thru it TO THE BALL! BALL = best key for deep 1/3 players. To me, it is totally nonsensical for a DEEP 1/3 player to bite on a play fake! That is a problem for the 4 underneath defenders!
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TIGER ONE Senior Member Posts: 6,423	Read Keys for C's and Safeties for run/pass Oct 24, 2006 12:11:29 GMT Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top Post by TIGER ONE on Oct 24, 2006 12:11:29 GMT Totally agreee with one backs assesment! If a cover 3 DB bites on a play action, you have now reduced a 3 man secondary to a 2 man secondary to cover a possible 5 receivers out situation! Coach Easton
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Superchief
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Read Keys for C's and Safeties for run/pass Nov 24, 2006 5:09:17 GMT

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Post by Superchief on Nov 24, 2006 5:09:17 GMT

We have all DB's read the UNCOVERED lineman to their side of the formation. We used to have them read the end man on LOS (TE) but found that the DB's could not really distinguish between a down block and an inside release, or they viewed a pulling guard on a waggle as a run. This situation caused us a ton of problems since we play so many wing-T teams that run waggle.

We tell the DB's that if the uncovered lineman fires across the LOS, the play is a run. If he uncovered lineman does anything else (pull, cross-blocks, retreats) the play is a pass, then react to the run. Many of our kids have learned to distinguish the high/low hat read that many coaches teach, but we start with the aforementioned read. It has worked for us.

Ack27 Senior Member Posts: 416	Read Keys for C's and Safeties for run/pass Nov 25, 2006 8:37:38 GMT Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top Post by Ack27 on Nov 25, 2006 8:37:38 GMT Coach Super, do you tllt your db's at 45 degrees...to enhance their vision on the uncovered lineman?:light;

Ack27 Senior Member Posts: 416	Read Keys for C's and Safeties for run/pass Nov 25, 2006 8:38:40 GMT Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top Post by Ack27 on Nov 25, 2006 8:38:40 GMT sorry for the typo...I meant to say tilt

Superchief Senior Member Posts: 270	Read Keys for C's and Safeties for run/pass Nov 25, 2006 15:11:18 GMT Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top Post by Superchief on Nov 25, 2006 15:11:18 GMT No, we don't tilt our DB's. I guess we're old-fasioned. We want them to play parallel as long as they can.

3-3-5 Coach Senior Member Posts: 246	Read Keys for C's and Safeties for run/pass Jan 2, 2008 18:16:53 GMT Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top Post by 3-3-5 Coach on Jan 2, 2008 18:16:53 GMT I understand reading EMOL and uncovered OL, but how do you work on it other than a team period? Do you take extra OL to give reads during your 7 on 7? Thanks.

Oneback Senior Member EMAIL: billmountjoy@yahoo.com Posts: 6,223	Read Keys for C's and Safeties for run/pass Jan 2, 2008 20:11:06 GMT Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top Post by Oneback on Jan 2, 2008 20:11:06 GMT If you are reading those who are not eligibles go "11 vs. 7". We only read thru eligibles to the ball in zone coverage so we can get by with "7 on 7".
	Bill Mountjoy

frmrgriffinsafety
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Read Keys for C's and Safeties for run/pass Jan 3, 2008 5:37:40 GMT

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Post by frmrgriffinsafety on Jan 3, 2008 5:37:40 GMT

During 7 on 7 periods we use either a coach or a player who is not running or defending a route to play the role of the OL to give the pass/run read.

Kind of on the lines of the 7 on 7 period, I want to make sure I'm not nuts for doing this. In an 10 play session for 7 on 7, I will usually mix in 2-3 runs just to keep the guys honest. Does this take away from their pass reps or am I correct in doing this?

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Read Keys for C's and Safeties for run/pass Mar 14, 2008 7:10:53 GMT

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Post by coach1619 on Mar 14, 2008 7:10:53 GMT

"frmrgriffinsafety"

I do the same thing. I emphasize the main pass plays for our 7 on 7 (which I am sure everyone does). I then identify their main PA pass plays. I will have wr's line up on the LOS as OL and perform the pass protection (I have it drawn up on a card. I tell the kids either to slide step, kick step (like we do on punt protection), or perform the PA) I will then mix the run play in with the PA. Our kids start to "cheat" the drill and forget about their read steps. I like mixing in the runs to help eliminate this from happening.

TIGER ONE Senior Member Posts: 6,423	Read Keys for C's and Safeties for run/pass Mar 14, 2008 8:35:32 GMT Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top Post by TIGER ONE on Mar 14, 2008 8:35:32 GMT FGS,COACH619, GOOD THINKING ON BOTH OF YOUR PARTS! Coach Easton-TIGER ONE
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frmrgriffinsafety
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Read Keys for C's and Safeties for run/pass Mar 14, 2008 9:06:46 GMT

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Post by frmrgriffinsafety on Mar 14, 2008 9:06:46 GMT

The cheating is what I try to avoid by doing this. The problem we have is that we do passing leagues over the summer and the kids start to form their bad habits then. Thanks for letting me know I'm not nuts. At least not in this capacity.

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Read Keys for C's and Safeties for run/pass Mar 14, 2008 11:06:32 GMT

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Post by TIGER ONE on Mar 14, 2008 11:06:32 GMT

FGS,

TOLERATE THE STARTING OF NO BAD HABITS WHATSOEVER IN ANY WAY SHAPE OR FORM!!! BE IT IN PASSING LEAGUES OF 7 ON 7 OR WHATEVER, STOP THE SCRIMMAGE AND CORRECT IT RIGHT NOW!!!
YOU WILL FIND IT PAYS BIG DIVIDENDS COACH.

Coach Easton-TIGER ONE

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Oneback Senior Member EMAIL: billmountjoy@yahoo.com Posts: 6,223	Read Keys for C's and Safeties for run/pass Mar 17, 2008 12:23:15 GMT Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top Post by Oneback on Mar 17, 2008 12:23:15 GMT "THE BIGGEST MISTAKE IS TO CONTINUE TO PRACTICE THE SAME MISTAKE"!!!!!
	Bill Mountjoy

TIGER ONE Senior Member Posts: 6,423	Read Keys for C's and Safeties for run/pass Mar 17, 2008 20:21:31 GMT Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top Post by TIGER ONE on Mar 17, 2008 20:21:31 GMT AMEN!!! PREACH IT BROTHER BILL!!! Coach Easton-TIGER ONE
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Read Keys for C's and Safeties for run/pass Mar 18, 2008 19:18:00 GMT

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Post by catcoachw on Mar 18, 2008 19:18:00 GMT

Corners read QB to #2 to #1. QB gives you run/pass key, then read #2 to #1. Some even have their corners buzz their feet thru the 3-step game before pushing out to their deep 1/3's drop. You want them to read #2 to #1 because if #2 goes in, the corner can play over the top on a post by #1, but if #2 goes out, the corner must continue on his 1/3's drop to the top of the numbers.

Free Safety reads the triangle. If pass, find #2 strong first then find #2 weak and apex the two inside receivers. If run, FS will run the alley.

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Read Keys for C's and Safeties for run/pass

Post by coach1619 on Oct 23, 2006 19:09:11 GMT

Post by Oneback on Oct 23, 2006 20:57:01 GMT

Post by TIGER ONE on Oct 24, 2006 12:11:29 GMT

Post by Superchief on Nov 24, 2006 5:09:17 GMT

Post by Ack27 on Nov 25, 2006 8:37:38 GMT

Post by Ack27 on Nov 25, 2006 8:38:40 GMT

Post by Superchief on Nov 25, 2006 15:11:18 GMT

Post by 3-3-5 Coach on Jan 2, 2008 18:16:53 GMT

Post by Oneback on Jan 2, 2008 20:11:06 GMT

Post by frmrgriffinsafety on Jan 3, 2008 5:37:40 GMT

Post by coach1619 on Mar 14, 2008 7:10:53 GMT

Post by TIGER ONE on Mar 14, 2008 8:35:32 GMT

Post by frmrgriffinsafety on Mar 14, 2008 9:06:46 GMT

Post by TIGER ONE on Mar 14, 2008 11:06:32 GMT

Post by Oneback on Mar 17, 2008 12:23:15 GMT

Post by TIGER ONE on Mar 17, 2008 20:21:31 GMT

Post by catcoachw on Mar 18, 2008 19:18:00 GMT

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