Installing Today’s Hybrid Pistol Offense Run & Pass from Top to Bottom
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Well coach we run a wing-t offense(head coach not me) we have had problems running belly at times this year so what is a no loss play that i can run that hits off tackle The other reason is since we run the jet sweep (we use outside zone blocking scheme with it) i figured why not run the our outside zone or jet scheme but hand it off to the fullback? we would be pairing the outside zone with rocket sweep so i know that the defense is probably going to run with the rocket and then we will be able to hit the zone off tackle??? Since teams really over play the rocket we would almost be able to automatically always cut back into the off tackle gap which is were belly used to hit??? I think reading the DE or the defender lined up over the tackle would be very simple because of the pull the rocket would have even is he was lined up at 5 yards....Do you think this would work or not
Principles of the OUTSIDE ZONE are diametrically opposed to those of the Wing-T. The Wing-T is a SHOULDER BLOCKING system, while you need to use the HANDS on the OUTSIDE ZONE. If you shoulder blocked the OZ - you would become so engaged that you would not be able to "slip off to the next level", which is required of the OZ.
ALSO - double teams on this play are VERTICAL, where in the Wing-T they are LATERAL.
In addition - the RB "option runs" (RB reads -= the HARDEST part of the play to teach) - which I don't believe you normally do toi this extent in the Wing-T. Don't mix oil & water!
Here is a description of OZ blocking techniques by Alex Gibbs - who teaches it better than anyone I know.
ALEX GIBBS – WIDE ZONE & TIGHT ZONE:
OFFENSIVE LINE SPLITS = 18”. OFF THE BALL WITH THEIR FINGERS ON THE CENTER’S SHOE LACES.
WIDE ZONE (18/19):
1. RB: LINE UP 7 ½-8 YARDS DEEP. DROP STEP & RUN ON TRACK FOR YOUR LANDMARK - THE BUTT OF THE TE (OR WHERE THE TE WOULD BE) – PRESS THE HOLE. READ HATS OF THE FIRST TWO MEN ON THE LOS COUNTING FROM OUTSIDE-IN (EXCLUDING Lbers). IF THE OUTSIDE MAN COMES IN – YOU GO OUT. IF THE OUTSIDE MAN GOES OUT – YOU GO IN & READ THE INSIDE MAN (RUN OFF HIM). RB IS PERMITTED ONLY ONE CUT, AND LIVE WITH IT! DETERMINE WHERE YOU WILL CUT BY THE TIME YOU GET TO ORIGINAL ALIGNMENT OF TE’S BUTT.
2. QB: COME OUT AT 4 (8) O’CLOCK & MAKE HANDOFF. FAKE BOOT AWAY FULL SPEED FOR 5 STEPS.
3. O-LINE/UNCOVERED: UNCOVERED MAN ZONING TAKES AN OPEN (LEAD) DIAGONAL STEP WITH HIS PLAYSIDE FOOT FOR SHOULDER PAD OF HIS COVERED TEAMMATE (YOUR HAT GOES TO HAT OF DLM). STAY ON TRACK & OVERTAKE DLM – UNLESS HE GOES OUT YOU PUSH HIM OUT. DON’T BLOCK Lber UNLESS HE IS EVEN WITH YOUR INSIDE SHOULDER & THREATENING THE GAP. NOTE: YOU CAN CROSSOVER ON 2ND STEP ON WIDE ZONE.
4. O-LINE/COVERED: THE COVERED MAN STEPS WITH HIS PLAYSIDE FOOT & AIMS HIS FACE FOR THE OUTSIDE SHOULDER OF THE DLM (STAY ON HIS OUTSIDE ½, AND IF YOUR HALF GOES IN – TIGHTEN ON DOWN; IF YOUR HALF GOES OUT – WIDEN; STAY ON LEVERAGE POINT SO AS NOT TO ALLOW PENETRATION). NOTE: BLOCKING C.P. FOR ALL LINEMEN (ON BOTH ZONE PLAYS = ELBOWS TIGHT – CONTACT WITH TRIANGLE OF FOREHEAD & HANDS – GET HANDS INTO BREASTPLATE & GRAB CLOTH – LEVERAGE/DIP HIPS (DROP DOWN LOW).
Our backs read the DT on the belly play, we have used are hands for about 3 years now(we changed when we put in the jet), and we have two sets of double teams (ones for the belly option and the jet game and ones for the power plays). Our reach rules are the same as your zone rules(those are the rules we use for jet and option game) so i think we are similar the only thing that worries me is the depth of the back....What i am asking you is when you run the stretch or outside zone play most of the time it will cut up because of the path of the back and how defense want to keep the play from bouncing outside ..Am I correct in thinking this..... The horizontal stretch caused by the path of the back one yard outside the te thus creates a hole in the off tackle area(most of the time)....Well since we run rocket toss defenses will stretch and give us the off tackle gap. My thought is that if they stretch with the motion we no longer need to have the back at 7 yards to get them to run to the outside thus being able to run the outside zone from 5 yards deep? Does this make sense to anyone else???
Over the years have found LOTS OF WAYS TO SKIN THE CAT. What your saying makes sense to me, but until I see if it is sound in actual scrimmage I would not commit one way or the other. Since you are already using hand blocking schemes, and Bill is 100% correct in mentioning that the two are diametrically opposed, why not just give it a try on the practice field and see how it works out. Nothing ventured, nothing gained. But, if it is not SOUND, junk it immediately would be my suggestion.
Coach Easton
J.C. EASTON<BR>HEAD COACH<BR>GA TIGERS FOOTBALL<BR>PROFESSIONAL MINOR LEAGUE
Coach Mountjoy and Coach Easton thank you for your help and thanks for answering my questions I tried the play today and it worked very good versus a 50 fornt with a 5 tech and a 9 tech and linebackers over the offensive gaurds...vs a 50 with a 0 nose and a pair of 3 techs it was not as successful....vs a 40 front it worked vs a 1 tech and a 3 tech when we ran it to the 1 tech when we ran it to the 3 it was not as good. vs a 40 front with a pair of 2 techs it was bad just plain bad......what we came up with was this vs a 40 front we would have the BST and BSG zone combo he BSDT and BSILB (we want them to cut) the center would pull and trap the DE and the PST and PSG would power double the PSDT and PSILB.....VS. the regular 50 the play would stay as is and vs a Bear we would zone on the backside and the tackle and gaurd on the frontside would cross block.....Oh we run this stuff out of your basic wing-t formations including run and shoot (double slot).....I don't know if that made any sense or if you guys even care but i thought i would let you know any how thanks for the help....
I have one final thought that I would like to share with you. Zone plays take a LOT of TIME to put in, & need a LOT of time in practice (for men to get all the REPS they need to work TOGETHER vs various looks). In fact - it takes SO MUCH time, that it limits the number of other things you can do.
The above comes from NFL coaches! If THEY have trouble teaching it, then you can imagine how hard it is in HS or below. If you do not spend at LEAST 50% of your time alloted in practice to RUNS on zone blocking, you may be wise to forget it! I cannot fathom running the entire Wing-T offense AND zone plays as well!
This has been my experience in this offense on THREE levels as well!
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Posted September 19, 2006
Packers still adjusting to zone-blocking scheme
By Pete Dougherty
pdougher@greenbaypressgazette.com
The Green Bay Packers probably aren't going to beat anyone this year until they get a running game.
The Packers' slow transition to their new zone-blocking run scheme, with two rookies starting at guard to boot, has played a major factor in their 0-2 start. Though they ran for 103 yards in their season-opening loss to Chicago, they had three key third- or fourth-down runs stuffed, and they gained almost half their rushing yards (44) in the fourth quarter with the Bears protecting a 26-0 lead.
Then this past Sunday, they rushed for only 63 yards in a 34-27 loss to New Orleans, a game they led 13-0 in the first quarter.
"We're targeting the right people, we're just not getting it done on the back side," offensive coordinator Jeff Jagodzinski said of the Packers' run blocking. "Until we get that going, the run game will be stalled."
Since the preseason, Jagodzinski has preached the zone-run game will come around eventually because of its simplicity — there are only a handful of basic run plays, and the linemen, tight ends and fullbacks learn the combination blocks and techniques from running those plays again and again.
"It's like any new offense, you're going to have some growing pains," coach Mike McCarthy said. "But the beauty of the system Jeff has installed is you're doing the same things over and over and over again. They're using the same techniques, the same rubs, we're giving them similar looks as much as we can from a play-call perspective."
However, the run game has been a liability so far in this young season.
Jagodzinski has seen the scheme installed before, two years ago, when the architect of this particular version, the highly successful Alex Gibbs, brought it from Denver to the Atlanta Falcons.
Atlanta led the NFL in rushing that first season but also had an inherent advantage because the Falcons' quarterback, Mike Vick, has elite-halfback running skills. He not only padded the rushing total substantially — he ran for 902 yards in 2004 — just the threat of his bootlegs significantly slowed back-side pursuit.
But Jagodzinski points to the Denver Broncos, who hired Gibbs in 1995 to implement his system, which uniquely integrates specific teaching methods and techniques into an offense. The year before Gibbs' arrival, 1994, the Broncos ranked 23rd in the NFL in rushing yards per game (91.9 yards) and 24th in average yards per carry (3.4 yards). In 1995, with Gibbs teaching the run game and new coach Mike Shanahan calling plays, the Broncos finished fifth in rushing yards (124.7) and second in yards per carry (4.5).
The Broncos no doubt expedited their adjustment to Gibbs' scheme with the fortuitous drafting of Terrell Davis in the sixth round that year — though he was a late-round pick, Davis turned out to be one of the NFL's premier backs in the second half of the 1990s.
Packers halfback Ahman Green has good vision for this one-cut run game, but at 29 and coming off quadriceps-tendon surgery, he's not the explosive back he was in his prime. So, if the Packers are going to run the ball respectably this year, their linemen will have to master the new techniques sooner rather than later.
"Once it starts working, you'll all go, 'Oh, OK,'" Jagodzinski said. "So will I."
Through two games, the Packers' run-pass ratio has been out of whack in part because the run game has floundered. Though McCarthy said his game called for more passing than running against the Saints, he didn't want anything like the 3-to-1 ratio of passes (55 throws and two sacks) to runs (20) that he ended up with. Though 2-minute and a couple no-huddle change-of-pace drives contributed to a pass-heavy offense, the Packers halfbacks' measley average of 2.5 yards a carry forced more passing as well.
Probably the two biggest problems in the first two games have been that the line as a whole has blown too many key back-side cut blocks, and the rookie guards have been liabilities.
The back-side cut blocks are a staple of the zone scheme, because if well-executed, they allow the halfback to cut back when the defense overflows to wall off the run side. Both McCarthy and Jagodzinski said the back-side cut blocks have been a problem in the first two games, especially against New Orleans. Not only have rookie guards Tony Moll, Jason Spitz and Daryn Colledge missed their share, but so have starting tackles Chad Clifton and Mark Tauscher, and tight ends Bubba Franks and David Martin.
Cut blocks are more difficult to practice than other blocks, because the Packers won't execute them against their own defensive players for fear of injury. So, they have to be practiced against blocking dummies only, which as stationary targets don't simulate games. Precision is crucial, because the cut blocks have to do more than just slow the defender, they have to get him to the ground.
"Speed and tempo, the way we drill it, it's the best I've ever been around as far as teaching the zone schemes," McCarthy said. "You've just got to transfer it to the games. If you take one step and cut, it's not going to happen. If you take three steps and then cut, then it works. It's more confidence and the speed of it. We're plenty athletic enough inside to do it."
The Packers also need faster development from Moll, Spitz and Colledge in all aspects of line play. Colledge started at left guard in place of the injured Spitz (bruised thigh) against New Orleans, and though he played better than in the exhibition season, the second-round draft pick did nothing to suggest he deserves to remain in the starting lineup when Spitz is healthy. McCarthy said Spitz will be listed as questionable (50 percent chance of playing) for this week's game against Detroit.
"Just OK," was how McCarthy described Colledge's play.
Moll has had more problems getting movement at the point of attack than with anything else.
"We feel like he's got to be a lot stouter, a little firmer," said Joe Philbin, the Packers' offensive line coach. "It's unfortunate some of those showed up again this week. That's an area we have to address. His pad level is his biggest enemy at this point. It's not a lack of toughness or anything. It's more the technique and leverage he plays with."