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AZJaz Senior Member Posts: 275	BOB v. 3-5 Teams Nov 17, 2006 9:28:20 GMT Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top Post by AZJaz on Nov 17, 2006 9:28:20 GMT We are looking for a better way to BOB a 3-5 team. We play two of them each year. This season we ran 1-2 TE's with a single back look, however I am more interested in schematics instead of blocking out of any particular look.
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BOB v. 3-5 Teams Nov 17, 2006 10:13:14 GMT

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Post by Oneback on Nov 17, 2006 10:13:14 GMT

We are a "BOB" team, however, ANYTIME a team stacks on OUR Center we consider "turnback" protection. It is as old as the game itself, & MOST teams I know have it as a "security blanket".

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Just give gap responsibility away from side where RB blocks. If you are covered & teamate in the direction you are sliding is uncovered - stay square on 1/2 of man on you to the direction you are sliding to give BODY PRESENCE to man sliding towards you (& so that your block won't be wasted) as you KEEP YOUR EYES on the LB in direction you are sliding, so you can take him IF he comes. If teammate in the direction you are sliding was covered - slide to him right away.

Believe me - that is all there is to it!

That is the TECHNIQUE. The actual rules are ultra-simple: NOTE: "ONSIDE" = side RB blocks!

ON T: Onside B Gap
ON G: Onside A Gap
CTR: Offside A Gap
OFF G: Offside B Gap
OFF T: Offiside C Gap
RB: Block first man on or outside on ON T.

IF a 1 TE is involved - we normally slide TOWARD him making him resp. for OFFSIDE D GAP! If 2 TE's are involved - the ON TE blocks Onside C Gap & OFF TE blocks same as last sentence.

REMEMBER: This is a ZONE protection, & vs. all "Zone Dogs", "Twists", etc. - you zone it off!

Bill Mountjoy

Coach Scott Senior Member Posts: 314	BOB v. 3-5 Teams Nov 17, 2006 11:37:50 GMT Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top Post by Coach Scott on Nov 17, 2006 11:37:50 GMT This is great for PA too. Just have everyone responsible for the gap away from the gap the back will hit. e.g. back hits strong C, TE has Strong D, ST has strong B, etc.

AZJaz Senior Member Posts: 275	BOB v. 3-5 Teams Nov 17, 2006 18:24:41 GMT Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top Post by AZJaz on Nov 17, 2006 18:24:41 GMT Thanks Bill. We use some slide protection but never turnback. Ill see what else I can find and maybe we will make some changes this offseason. Thanks
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BOB v. 3-5 Teams Nov 17, 2006 20:16:32 GMT

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Post by Oneback on Nov 17, 2006 20:16:32 GMT

Tonight - Powhatan HS (Virginia) defeated Layfayette HS (Virginia) in the first round of the 4A state playoffs 28-13. Powhatan used our turnback protection against Lafayette's 3-5, & managed to throw 3 TD passes!

Lafayette is a REAL GOOD football team, with a tradition dating back to when "LT" (Lawrence Taylor) played there! Taylor is still a benefactor of their program - having built them the finest weight room money can buy!

Powhatan is normally a "BOB" team - but used the "turnback" protection (AKA "slide") because Lafayette was REAL QUICK, & stunted the 3 stacks almost every snap in an attempt to get penetration.

We feel the need for only TWO protections (but we DO need TWO):

1. "BOB"
2. "Turnback" (AKA "Slide")

As Bratkowski said in the tape I recommended above in my earlier post today - "these are about the only 2 choices you have vs these style of defenses"!

PS: Semantics being what they are - there really isn't a difference between "Turnback" & "Slide". SOME call turning back from the "bubble" a "slide", & turning back ALL THE WAY a "turnback". If you are going to use this vs a 3-5 - you need to turn it back all the way! "Solid" fronts (covering both OG's AND the Center normally require this type blocking - ESPECIALLY if there is a MLB ("Bears" 46 look vs most 1-Back sets)!

Bill Mountjoy

AZJaz Senior Member Posts: 275	BOB v. 3-5 Teams Nov 18, 2006 20:51:31 GMT Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top Post by AZJaz on Nov 18, 2006 20:51:31 GMT Thanks again Bill !!!
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BOB v. 3-5 Teams Nov 20, 2006 9:13:00 GMT

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Post by Coach Scott on Nov 20, 2006 9:13:00 GMT

Here is a drill we like:

^--O-O-O-O-O-O-O--^

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----------D

The "offense" lines up as above, "D" is a tackling dummy. The "defense" lines up in any front they choose (or a front used by the next opponent). The coach calls out "rip" or "liz" for slide protection to right or left or a hole # to turn away from (e.g. "5" for left C gap). On the signal, the defense will rush the passer/dummy. The coach counts out "one Mississippi, two Mississippi" etc. If the dummy is untouched when the coach has said four complete "Mississippis," the offense wins.

We split the kids into teams 6-8 to protect/rush. Losing teams are required to do extra running etc. It is a fun drill. Sometimes, we have starting O-line to try to keep out all the other lineman at the same time.

AZJaz Senior Member Posts: 275	BOB v. 3-5 Teams Nov 20, 2006 9:15:23 GMT Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top Post by AZJaz on Nov 20, 2006 9:15:23 GMT Good drill Scott. We have used a similar one
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GCTIGERS57
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BOB v. 3-5 Teams Dec 8, 2006 7:19:43 GMT

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Post by GCTIGERS57 on Dec 8, 2006 7:19:43 GMT

I have tried a few different protection schemes over the years and this year I went to a BOB-like scheme.

First their is always a RIGHT (70) or LEFT (71) call based on where are FB is going. If he goes Right, the OL block "big on big" and check LB. If LB does not come, the OL will PEEL backside opposite the backside. If the FB goes Left, the OL blocks "big on big" and peels back to the right side.

VS the 30 Stack... Our OT's would lock on the DE's. We think in terms of coverd/uncoverd. If shaded the G's and T's must point to who is going to block the DL and who is going to check LB and peel back.

Vs. 40 teams, our G's and T's our occupied by the BOB concept and the FB is responsible for frontside LB and the center is responsible for Mike to Backside LB. If Mike does not come, he gets his head on a swivel and scrapes off the butts of the G and T backside. He did an exceptional job of picking up outside LBs when Mike did not come.

The best decision we ever made was to go to ONE protection.

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Post by AZJaz on Nov 17, 2006 9:28:20 GMT

Post by Oneback on Nov 17, 2006 10:13:14 GMT

Post by Coach Scott on Nov 17, 2006 11:37:50 GMT

Post by AZJaz on Nov 17, 2006 18:24:41 GMT

Post by Oneback on Nov 17, 2006 20:16:32 GMT

Post by AZJaz on Nov 18, 2006 20:51:31 GMT

Post by Coach Scott on Nov 20, 2006 9:13:00 GMT

Post by AZJaz on Nov 20, 2006 9:15:23 GMT

Post by GCTIGERS57 on Dec 8, 2006 7:19:43 GMT

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