Trap block

Coach Sprout,

What formations do you employ?

Coach,

We use a six man line, with two WR. The RBs are either in I or split (sometimes the split is offest either near or far from the TE).

We have some other formations, but these are our base formations that I would like to run the trap from.

Trap from outside/in with the "H" back , or FB. What MANY call the "WHAM". He traps first DLM on the Center - N/T - first DLM on LOS backside. Frontside merely zone block right when H traps left (& vice versa)! VERY GOOD PLAY!

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Originally posted by: TIGER ONE
COACH SPROUT,

Sure, what you say in your last post makes perfect sense and it is very correct what must be done according to your statement. You will come to learn that OL's are judged on how quick feet they have!!! To play guard (I don't trap with tackles as a rule) and to get to his block while his man is still on their side of the LOS, takes really quick feet! Any team that traps a lot on the college level works hour after hour on the practice field perfecting and streamlining everything from aerodynamics of their body to reduce air resistance, to the landmarks on the guy's body they will contact first!!! It is all about quick feet and technique!!!

Coach Easton

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Thanks Coach,

I would like to use the guards to trap this year, but my two starting guards are out, and looks like I will lose another one for two games as well. I do have a great tackle, a little undersized, but quick as hell, strong and agressive so I plan to trap using him. I think I will set some tackle bags up and start getting him moving faster. Maybe when I get the guard situation under control I will consider traping with them.

When I was playing we had a play where we pulled both guards, the offside guard trapped in the hole of the pulling onside guard, who ran a kick block on the DE. From the I we would run the QB behind the FB and RB and go around the outside. One great power sweep.

Once again coach, thanks


Paul

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Originally posted by: TIGER ONE
Coach, whatever you teach them about trap blocking, do yourself a favor and teach them to trap ON THE OPPONENTS SIDE OF THE BALL NOT YOURS!!! IF YOU LEARN TO DO THIS YOU WILL SEE THE TACKLES IN YOUR BACKFIELD CEASE!

Coach Easton

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I SECOND THAT NOTION. I tell my trappers that if they miss their guy because they are into the LOS, then that will be as good as any trap block. A dumb DL that penetrates too much does NOT need to be even touched. Our FB will run by him every single time.

We are in a run and shoot formation when running our trap. Our QB gives a direct (meaning their is no reverse) handoff and the trap is run right over the center's butt. This is a QUICK hitting play. Doing this out of multiple motions (because we run tons of jett and sweep) is highly effective for us.

Coach Sprout,
The school I'm at runs true wing-t. The FB trap is one of our main plays. I agree with what everyone has been saying about trapping into the LOS. This is the ONLY way an OL will trap a DL successfully and consistently. It doesn't matter if your G is undersized. My starting G was 185 this year and one of my best. He just has to have good technique. Stay low aiming for the inside hip. The phrase I use is "miss inside" b/c if you miss the DL inside it's as good as a block. inside hip and keep his feet moving with a good base

We will influence block at times. Only when we know the LB's are reading guards which very few do around here, those that do are very disciplined at it.

Never ran the Wham trap but I am familiar with it.

I guess I have 2 different concepts here.

joboo59 - I've always taught the influence to infuence a 3 tech to move upfield- ie vs a down block he would sling shot and trap our trapper vs the influence he moves upfield and gets earholed - please tell me more about your concept.

Coach Easton - Easier said than done - We run a single wing concept goal line package in which the wing motions to a point behind the QB then takes a downhill angle to his kick out block. Each team we face does different things -alignments - techniques etc. How do you teach a trapping lineman to get as low as a diving opponent while staying high enough to drive his feet and follow through. The funny thing is no matter how they lineup or play our guys always manage to find a way to block it- it gets the job done.

Coach,
Anyone who runs the trap in their offense they must first understand the play is a non-team play. Which means it is one that requires very few people on the line to execute it correctly. You can simply take the two guards and center and make the play go. Here is how we practice the trap:
1st every OL learns every line position and therefore they all learn to trap. Here is the set-up:



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We take the center and two guard and then put the above look to the defense. Then we have two lines. One for the Centers and one for the guards/tackles. The coach then directs the defense, then says "go"and the offensive line executes their blocks. Then the group that was offense becomes defense and the group that was defense goes into the lines. Then you can pay attention to the detail of the blocking technique of trapping guard coming off of the centers hip. In this look the OLINE coach can watch all three of the OLine at the same time and give feedback. Then we will do this to teach the influence:









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Tackle is now put in and we influence block the E with the PSG and then we have the tackle block the MLB. We teach them that if the MLB walks up or if they feel he is going to blitz then call "OFF" and run regular trap. The coach directs the defense from behind so the OLINE can not see and then say "GO" and they execute and follow the above procedure. The last thing we do is a fold technique we call GUS (means guard under center) We will have PSG block the 3 tech out and the center block down on the 1tech and the BSG fold block up in on the MLB. This can all be taught in 10 minutes and everyone on the team gets a lot of reps. REMEMBER TRAP IS NON TEAM PLAY. SO practice it that way. You do not need every one for the play to work.
Last thought if your DL is over penetrating and you do not have great guards run SALLY blocking and If they trap the trapper go to the fold or run Guard trap influence.

The final thing we teach is a loaded look:







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If we see two Lbers in bewteen the tackles we call this look loaded and therfore our PSG must block BSLB and the Tackle must block PSLB. By doing these drills in this particular order we are able to get multiple reps in about 10 minutes.
Hope this helps,
Karjaw.

Great point coach easton; Awesome drill karjaw! What about an "uptown" trap - which is basically a fold between C/BSG:

center-down on a 2i tech-

playside guard blocks 3 tech out (base block)-

backside guard pulls behind the center to the MLB.

backfield and QB action remain the same

Love to hear thoughts.

I agree with GCtigers. Our PS tackle is just as important as our pulling G. We get alot of 4-4 and the tackle is responsible for the PS LB and the G gets the BS backer. The tackle's block is key for more than a 3 yd gain.

One of the young guys I coach with (he's 72 been coaching 48 years) says this is a single wing concept; he always says attack the double team; however, in this case a 2i and a wide 3 tech with mike at about 5. We don't see too many true 4-3 with a 1 and 3. We see a lot of split eagle 5-3-1-5-9 and odd 5-0-5. We have a team that likes the 2i with 3 and we've always toyed with this concept. Our guards are usually 5-11 / 6-3 and 250 - 290 (not the nimblest guys). We like the IZ/OZ and Power concepts but we want to add FB trap and QB trap from empty. I was just x and o looking for different wrinkles. Love to hear any more thoughts on trap stategies-(vs 44;52;353)