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Coaches, me and some friends were talking about this and we all came up with different answers. If you had the chance to coach your own son, would you? Or would you send him to the nearest school and possibly have to face him? I dont have any kids of my own yet, I'm still pretty young. But this question has been on my mind for some time now. Another side, When I was playing in high school, a local school had a father/son on the team. The father being the head coach and the son being an outstanding player, very gifted and very much a key role on the team. From some close friends on that team, This player had been out drinking the night before school and had came to school drunk/hung over. From what I heard his father pulled stings to keep him on the active roster. I heard the same story from many people, if it's true or not I dont know. What are some opions for dealing with this if it was your own son and you had decided to coach him and he was one of the most gifted players on your team. I know in theory you should treat all players the same...but I cant help but to think personal feelings might get twisted up.
My main question is would you coach your own son? If you do, how it working out...I just want opions incase some day I'm lucky enough to face the choice of coaching my own.
Football isn't a contact sport; it's a collision sport. Dancing is a contact sport. --Vince Lombardi
I have been in the game for quite some time and have seen father/son combos more than a few times. Most have worked out fine. But some have been bad relationships. Most of the time it is the father(coach) being extremely hard on the son. Treating all the same is what should happen, but think about it. How can you treat your kid like everyone else? It is damn near impossible. So what usually happens is that the coach is harder on his son than he is on everyone else. Some kids can take it, some can't. I coached my son in Little League, and then in Sr Hi football. Fortunately, I coach O-Line and D- Ends and he was a Corner and Flanker. So there was no problem. HOWEVER!!!!! I will admit that I was pretty bad in LL. After looking back on it, I was definitely too tough on him. On the other side, I have seen a coach start his son when there was no way that he should have started. And I really believe that the coach believed that his kid was the better of the two individuals. His relationship clouded his judgement. So to answer your question, don't believe the addage that you can treat all kids the same, when your son is one of them. But, with some common sense, you can have a great relationship. In fact, a big tearful hug after a championship victory from my son was one of my greatest moments in my coaching career.
I am head coach of my sons 11-12 youth team and was his head coach last year and an asst coach on several teams before that (as well as his baseball and basketball teams). He is a very good athelete and is one of the best 2 or 3 players on the team (any sport) and is really competitive and extremely motivated to play hard and learn. The experience has been good for both of us but there have been problem areas.
First, I am harder on him than I am on anyone else on the team. I see his potential so I push him, just too hard some times. I push all the kids that are talented but maybe not putting out 110% but I have to really watch that I don't overdo it with him. My asst coaches do the same thing with their kids so it is a natural tendency of Fathers to push their sons. We (me and my coaches) will be working to even it out a little better this year.
Second, my son and other coaches sons tend to want to argue with us when they wouldn't think about arguing with other coaches. A few laps or bear crawls usually fixes this problem. He knows that punishment will be swift so it does keep the problem to a minimum. Making sure I am not harder on him and that the other kids get the same punishment for the same offenses is important.
Third is the one that bothers me the most...last year my son was QB and my 2 fastest kids were my 2 wingbacks (running DW). He was given a hard time by some of the other kids saying that the only reason he was QB was because I was the head coach. Both of the wingbacks could (and did) run some QB but our offense worked best with them carring/catching the ball and my son at QB. I think my main problem was the fullback (he fumbled about every 4th time he touched the ball and dropped every pass we threw to him- good kids just has brick hands) was mad because about all he did was block and he thought he was the best RB and QB on the team. To get to the point, my son is begging me not to play him at QB this year so the kids won't give him a hard time. He is a a good QB and if he turns out to be the best at running the option (I have 2-3 other kids that have/can run QB so he may not be QB) then he will hear it again this year. I basically have told him that I will look at all the players and play him and the others wherever the will best benefit the team.
With all this said I wouldn't trade coaching my son for anything and will be a volunteer coach all through high school if they will let me. Like JM having my son coming running up to me and jumping up in my arms with a big hug after beating our biggest rivals in OT makes it all worth it. (I like being called coach by every kid in town too...*LOL*) You just have to recognize the potential problems and just do the best you can to be fair and and not treat your son any different than any other player on the team. Last years 11-12 coach showed his son favoritism and it really hurt team unity. Any thoughts on all this is appreciated....
"You take those little rascals, talk to them good, pat them on the back, let them think they are good, and they will go out and beat the biguns." -- Coach Bryant
My father coached both my brother and me. It was a tough situation. Dad really didn't want anyone to think he was favoring either us, so he worked us over pretty hard. I remember as a freshman, I caught it when the varsity wouldn't do well. I think it was his way of not blowing up at the varsity, but I was like 10th string, I couldn't figure out why I was catching it. When I was a senior, he instituted a rule where I had to win every sprint, or it didn't count. The guy who beat me was done for the day. I always thought that was a bit much. My younger brother was the center, and I was the QB. That made for some interesting moments, especially when we messed up the exchange. All in all, I would have to say it wasn't a great experience. I think there are some things dad should probably have done differently, things I hope I remember when I get in that position.
I have had the grand honor of coaching to of my 3 sons. The oldest is a freshman at a 2aa school and the middle one is in 7th. I coached both in pop warner and in little league. My oldest probably has had it the hardest. He wants to play on the line but i have chosen to play him at fullback because of his blocking abilty. I have had to head coaches tell me they wouldn't give him the ball, but during games both have asked how come I didn't give him the ball more after seeing him run. I am harder on him and I know it, but like I tell people. I know my sons abilty but you can't help it. He is still your son. My oldest is football smart and has even gone with me to scout and has fallen asleep at the field house while I broke down film. He doesn't mouth. With my middle son, I have taken a more suttle aproach. He is fast little kid and I have seen fellow coaches not give him a chance because he is small. Now you may think that is just being a parent,but when he carries the ball on a toss in practice and constantly scores on the 8th defense and then only gets the call on ex-point and usally that is an up the middle play. You get a little peaved. But I am hoping that his talent will be seen without me trying to point it out. He has also been around the game for a long time. Coaching your own child is probably the hardest thing you will ever do, but It is worth it. It took my oldest son 5 seasons to score. He did it 3 times this year. Yes I am looking foward to coaching my 3 year old son and my infant daughter
Post by High Desert Heat on Feb 21, 2003 10:57:55 GMT
I have had the honor of coaching my son through his years in flag football and Junior All-American Football. I have found that by having my assistant coaches coach him made it easier for the both of us. I treat of my players the same.
My most current challenge is I became the Head Coach of my son's freshman team. My assistant coaches think that my son would be a good QB. I don't want people to get the wrong impression because he is my son.
I am a 29 year coach (10 yrs as ass't, 19 yrs as head coach) and had two sons play for me. I coached at a high-profile, nationally prominent high school with 110 years of high school football history and over 700 total all-time wins. The pressure to win was intense, and the pressure was made more intense when my two sons started at QB for me. I made all my mistakes with my first son - too critical, too demanding, and so unwilling to give him credit when he earned it. By the time he was a senior, I finally figured out that he really should be treated just like any other kid on the team - praise him when he did well, and constructively criticize him when he made mistakes - just like I did with all the other players. I respect him so much for understanding why I treated him like I did during his sophomore and junior years. His senior year and all four years with my youngest son were the best years of my coaching life - we were always very successful, but I really enjoyed those teams and those years the best. So, coach your own son! Be fair to him, too. How many dads get to play catch with their sons almost every day of their lives? How many dads get to take their sons to work with them? Not only were the teams my sons quarterbacked successful, but both kids were All-State players on state and / or nationally ranked teams. I'd give ten years off the end of my life if I could coach my sons again!
I am currently a head freshman football coach at the High school level. My son is a junior on the varsity squad. This arrangement has worked out very well as I am still involved with the varsity but do not actively coach my son on a day to day basis. This arrangemnet has prevented any talk of bias like "He is only playing because he is the coaches son". I used to be very hard on him as others have mentioned, but then I realized that by working hard myself, being as knolwedgable as I could be about the game, setting a good example and just talking football with him was the best thing I could do to motivate him. He will be a team captain next season and go on to play at a small college level. Having football in common with my son has made us much closer and probably the best thing I have done in raising him. Congrats to all the dads who put the time an effort in to be involved with their son's athletic career.
Here's a new perspective for you guys. I am the son. I played for my dad in high school, and I coach with him now. My dad has been the coach at the high school that i attended for as long as I can remember, so I grew up living and breathing Trojan football. My brother did the same right behind me. I knew more about what went on with our program than anyone but the coaches. My situation was uniquely special. The relationship between my dad and myself is one built on love and, most of all, respect. I never even played organized football until I reached high school, so I understood that he had significantly more football sense than I did. The things that I was good at were the little things, being a vocal leader, understanding the game, picking people up when they needed it, and so on. When I moved up to varsity, he and I had an understanding. For me to play, I had to lay it on the line every single day. I had to win every sprint, catch every catchable ball, and go hard every single snap. The phrase that he and I used was for me to "leave no doubt" that I should be on the field. That way no one could argue. We didn't want to hear the mouth, so I had to keep it from happening. I loved that responsibility. It turned out that I played on two of the best teams ever at my high school, going 28-3 over two seasons. Being there to enjoy that with my dad made it so much more special. My brother came through right after I did. He was the quarterback, so he heard a lot more mouth. They had a little bit more difficult time with him playing the lead. I would not trade a day of my time playing for my dad. It was one of the greatest times of my life, if not the greatest.
As a younger coach with only seven years of varsity coaching experience I have to be totally be honest and admit that having fathers coach their sons is a nightmare for everyone around them. I have been in this situation twice, and in both situations the fathers left the program on bad terms. Fathers WILL show favortism toward their son, they cannot help it, and it always happen. So if you plan to coach your own son, accept the fact that it most likely will not be a good situation for everyone else.
Now I coached my brother on the high school level. I showed favortism. If I am ever blessed with children, they will not have me as a coach, because I have seen what it does to everyone around them. There is too much favortism involved, and it affects the program.
Lou Cella
Lou Cella
Head Varsity Football Coach
Greater Nanticoke Area High School (PA)
I will disagree with Lou Cella. It is not fair to say that it will "always" be a bad situation. There will be some negatives because of observer's human nature to cry nepotism however, I personally coached my son and the experience is something I will cherish forever. I personally went the other way instead of favoring. He was made to prove beyond normal circumstances that he deserved to play. And the fact that he was our quarterback added to the potential criticisms. It can work. I have seen where fathers do the promotion of their son thing and it is very destructive. It is not always going to be that way though.
I have observed at the youth levels of sports, some dads coach so their son gets a chance to play. They sign up to be the coach before some other guy signs up to coach, because at those levels, nepotism runs rampant. (But it's very easy to deal with, place your son or daughter on a team where that does not exist, or simply bring your concerns of nepotism to the coaches attention in a mature, concerned fashion. If the coach becomes defensive or argumentative - like "I'm the coach here, I and only I make the decisions", then it is pretty obvious you shouldn't want your child being influenced by such a shallow, self-centered, immature, and close-minded egomaniac). It's the exception, when a coach evaluates his son or daughter objectively, instead of the rule.
On the other hand, my observation (and experience) of high school sports is much different.
#1 Coaches get paid to make decisions. #2 Because they are being paid, they are expected to produce. #3 Boosters, Alumni, ADs, and Administration will only stand for so much BS before they punch your ticket.
Coaching our youngsters IS A BLESSING. It allows for the quality time mentioned in the previous posts. It is fun and rewarding to watch your son or daughter (first hand) enjoy what they are doing - And when they look over, they see you enjoying it right along with them. That is why God gave us these precious gifts - to enjoy every possible moment with them. And if you have the expertise to coach at the higher levels, and your son or daughter comes through the program......BONUS!
Now, when they do get older, and IF you do not posess the gift of objectivity, step aside and let the professionals do it. Do not offer some kind of lame excuse or some BS rationale why your son or daughter is playing instead of another. It only brings down the coaching profession. Let's not offer more reasons for others to view high school sports in a negative light. There are already enough stressors to deal with.
The bottom line is: If your own kid is the one - play 'em, if they're not - don't. Don't be lame and jeopardize the opportunities of the rest of the team. Remember.....as the coach, everyone else is relying on YOU to make the right choices. Use good judgement and make 'em.
My grandfather passed on a good piece of advice to me before he departed. He told me, "Son, the key to measuring - is using the same stick on everything."
Coaches, Thank you for your imput on this. I really hope one day I will in the postion to make this choice. I know God will give me the strength to do what is right for myself, my son/daughter, my team, and the school I will be working for. Again, thank you to everyone for their imput and advice.
God Bless,
Dustin McClellan
Football isn't a contact sport; it's a collision sport. Dancing is a contact sport. --Vince Lombardi
If you coach your own son which I have not done, is I feel you must be able to seperate your self if at alll possible and make sure that he is no different then any other player on the team. Must compete like the others to earn his spot. Dads can be hard on their kids and some blind to their inabilities. Coach CAmpbell
Coaching your own son can be both a blessing and a nightmare. During my son's senior year I was asked to assist (unpaid) with the varisty after coaching the school's freshman team. His high school had only two winning seasons in the school's history so I figured things couldn't get any worse. I agreed to be the defensive coordinator provided that I would not coach my son directly. I thought that by contributing to the "team" I could avoid conflict and charges of favoritism. Besides, my son was the only returning player on the team who had made all-conference as a sophomore and all-area as a junior.
The team had it's third winning season, made the playoffs, and had a tough defense that had five shut-outs and set many school records. I never missed a coaches meeting or practice and tried to contribute constuctively. All of the teams coaches seemed supportive of each other. I convinced my son to move from TB to FB, against his wishes, for the good of the team. My son made the all-state team as a DB. He was also the only player on his team who was recruited and offered at a D1-AA school. He started last season as a freshman in college. However, there was a major problem that started before the next summer.
Coaches meetings started happening without any notification. Major changes to the program were occuring without input. I was not in the loop, so I left. I still consider every member of the coaching staff a friend and I don't regret the time I spent coaching. The bond I have with every player from that team, especially my son, is priceless. Lou Cella (above) worked under me that year as an defensive assistant. We went to the Big 33 game together last Saturday and I will attend as many of his games this year in his first year as a head coach as I can. Some day I will coach again. That is part of the beauty of football - the greatest sport ever played!
I've coached my son in Pop Warner for two seasons now. His first year was the worst for both of us. I was hard on him. Since I was an assistant, I wanted the Head Coach, the Offensive Coordinator and the Defensive Coordinator to see his athletic ability. My son was 9 and if a butterfly flew across the field he'd be looking at that rather than watching the play. Those kinds of things drove me nuts. How are they going to know how good he is if he's lost in space? Fortunately for both of us, I calmed down and decided to just let him be him. Last season, I was Assistant Head Coach and my primary responsibilities were the O-line, D-line and Defensive Coordinator. I learned from my first experience to just let things go. So, when I saw him doing summersaults while we were working on special teams, I just said, "Jason, why are you doing that?" With a big smile on his face he replied, "I dunno." I just shook my head and let it go. I have to remind myself that kids play sports to have fun. I want them, all of them, to have fun within the context of what we're trying to teach as a coaching staff, but utltimately, they're going to be kids. That was the biggest lesson I had to learn and that has helped me as a coach and a father.
This season, I will be the Head Coach and my son said he wants to play quarterback. I know there will be sniping behind my back about letting him play the position. I've told him he's got to earn it on the field, I'm not going to just give him the job. To prepare, I enrolled him in a QB & Receivers Camp run by a local High School coach. I've also purchased several QB training tapes and I've worked with him on his mechanics. I don't want there to be any doubt when we take the fied.
I would say that coaching your own son can be a great blessing if you, the parent, keep it in its proper perspective. Don't expect for you and your son to turn out to be the next Jack & John Elway. To kids, it's just a game. At the 9-11 age group that I have, they don't care about winning. They'd rather win, but it's not the end of the world if they don't. They just want to have fun.
Adding to what's been already said I must say that in my experience, coaching a son does not affect everyone in the program. In fact, our players definately had a more enjoyable year than most in the program and did not resent the father/son bond. The people affected most are the father and son involved. Other coaches were hyper-sensitive to the relationship and must have had a hard time with it. My son also believes I was very hard on him -- particularly when compared to the other players. Maybe that's why he excelled.
At the first clinic I ever went to Rob Johnson's dad was speaking. He is the head coach I believe at Mission Viejo, CA. He said he never coached Rob at home or took him out on the weekends for workouts.
My dad was a coach on the field and at home. What dad's have to learn is to separate the two, and let the kids be kids and have fun. Dad's sometimes make an ass out of themselves trying to live vicariously through their children.
Dad's can be great coaches as long as their conscious about their decision making and treat everyone equally. In a time when parents don't spend enough time with their kids, I would never discourage a Dad from not coaching. I have a Dad on my staff right now. His kid didn't work out at QB. Just doen't have the mentality or the emotional control but he's going to knock the crap out of people. By the way I don't treat his kids any differently than the rest of the team.
My father coached my older brother and me when we were in middle school. He never , ever showed favortisim i can tell you that!! Classic case of my brother had all the heart with not much talent, i had all the talent and not much heart. Man i hated those rides home after practice or a game!! But when i got into High School and college i realized how much football my Dad taught me!! Now that i am a coach, i would not be half the man i am without my Dad coaching me during those years!!! I owe every thing to my Dad for making me the man i am today.....He was hard on my brother and I because he didnt want us to make the same mistakes he did as a young man!!! Though those times were hard, i would NEVER trade them for anything!!!! I call my dad after every game and tell him the details, and ask him for his advice....He is the greatest man i have ever known....My brother, the one with all the heart, is now a Captain in the USMC. And i am a football coach in Florida...I probably dont thank the Lord enough for my Father! So keep on coaching your sons coaches!!
Post by greyhound_pride on Dec 2, 2003 23:32:06 GMT
as a player I wish I had the opportunity for my dad to teach me about football the way you all seem to have taught your sons. Football has a long and deep history in my family, and I just wished my dad would have done more with me concearning football. My great uncle is in the IL high school coaches hall of fame, played at the university of IL with Dick Butkus, my grandfather played offensive line for Eastern IL for a year before getting married and having a family (he was also a star sprinter on the track team and still holds our school's hurdle record, the oldest record in my high school) kind of strange, an offensive lineman that was extremely fast, huh? my dad played DL/OL in high school, and received all-conference honorable mention his sr year after tearing his acl and mcl in the 3rd game of the season. My oldest brother QB/FS in high school, and made pre-season all-american FS at a small d3 school before passing away. My other brother played TE/DE and was a star sprinter/high jumper on the track team. I played LB/QB/RB/WR in high school. My dad really supported me playing football and loved watching me play, but I wish that he would have been harder on me when I was younger. He never really got much more involved than watching me play. He only got on my case twice in my entire life about football, once was during a jv game my freshman year, I was the starting split end and my job was to block the CB....every single play I had to block him, and it was getting old, I didn't see why I had to block him all out when we were running to the other side of the field, so my dad told one of the officials (who was a friend of his) to tell me that he said I was dragging ass and to step it up. The next play I knocked that corner on his back. He didn't like being knocked down by a freshman since he was a soph, so every play after that became a battle between the two of us. It would have been really nice if we'd thrown the ball, I could have beat the cb pretty bad since he was always stepping up to deliver a blow. Anyways, the 2nd time was during soph. year, I had slacked off considerably for about a month during the off-season, and when my dad heard that I hadn't been lifting he chewed my ass up one side and down the other and he told me something that I will never forget "Damnit Seth, you have more talent in your little finger than I had in my entire body and you're just wasting it." Instead of getting mad at my dad, I realized that maybe he was right, I really looked up to my dad as a football player, and I knew I had some talent, football had always come so easily to me. As soon as I was born, my dad a stuffed football in my hands, even before my mom got to hold me, she wasn't too happy about it, but oh well I wish my dad had told me sooner not to waste the talent that I have, and I wish that after my senior year of high school he would have made me realize that if I want to play college football, I have to get ready for it right now. I had my head stuck up a girl's butt and only wanted to go the school she went to, and after i was all set to play football at a big 10 school, we broke up and she transferred to a school without football. Now, 4 years later I'm desperately training with a passion i've never had before so that I can play football again, football really is what makes my heart tick, and I just wish my dad had taught me more as a child. When I have children, and someday I'll be their football coach I don't really know how I'll approach the situation. I want my kids to be great at football, but I don't want it to be another story like Todd Marinovich.
My brother was the QB on the team that I was a student coach for, but I didn't want to be involved. As a matter of fact, I stayed away from him as much as possible, and tried not to coach him at home or on the field. I was guilty of trying to coddle him when he wasn't having a good game, and if I had it to do over, I would stay away from that.
He caught a lot of flack, being a sophmore starter on a team that didn't live up to expectations., but I think it bothered me more than it did him. The fans who jeered didn't see him in practice, where it was obvious he could do the job.
I hope my future sons are a little chubby, so they can play line and blend in with the rest of the team. Nobody cries favortism when the coach puts his son on the line....
..or I hope I have all girls....
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Coaches I can think of nothing as special as coaching your own son or daughter. First and formost remember that you are a parent 1st and a coach second. Enjoy the great positive relationship opportunity that exists in this situation. Treat your son or daughter fairly. Remember they have enough pressure on them just being a coaches kid. Do not go out of your way to make life harder on them. Be wise and just, give praise when appropriate, be firm when necessary, and always show love and support. Apply rules fairly to all athletes reguardless if it is one of yours or not. The memories and history that you can develop from this situation is priceless. My son is in college now and he has decided to become a coach. I think a big part of that decision is he knows that one day he will have children and he wants to be as involved with his family as the two of us were when he was growing up. You should thank God that you are in a situation where you can be around your child and have such a positive impact on their lives. The bond you can establish easily outweighs any negative aspects of this question.:heart;
I help coach my sons ymca basketball team and really enjoy it. It is great how we get all of the kids equall playing time so that no one feels left out and all the kids go home happy. We keep score but do not emphasize whether we win or lose, we tell the kids to just do their best. I am really excited to have my son play for coaches like the ones on this board. They seem to really know what they are talking about. It makes me feel good to know that there are other guys out there that are willing to coach young kids and install in them that it is not important whether you win or lose, but it is that you try your very best. Sometimes I feel that the world is way to competitive!
Try to find out the best position that fits him and prepare him well. Don`t put a lot of pressure on him. Let another position coach do the coaching if possible, unless you are the best qualified for the position. Your son will take it more personal from you than another coach and the fans will try like hell to find something to bitch about like favoritism. jrb