Tiger/Coach Cella

Navy runs the outside veer only vs. a B-gap DL or 4i. The offensive tackle blocks the 4i or B-gap DL and the playside guard, center, backside guard, and tackle have outside zone blocking rules the whole way. The slotback (or tight end) works to the 1st interior defender.

If you choose to run outside veer vs. a 4 or 5 tech, use outside zone rules with the tight end/slotback blocking the 1st inside defender.

Congrats Cory! We both had great seasons! Best of luck in 2007!

WARRIOR 77,

I am not Coach Cella and certainly cannot answer for him, but would like to offer my own comments if that is all right with you. Having run the triple option out of the bone and the "I" for a long time, I am of the opinon that he OSV is absolutely a necessary part of the succesfull option teams plans! First off, if your QB is being trained to read properly, when he sees a 4i tech, he automatically knows it is a pull if you have an ISV called in the huddle and he will need to get up field to his second read which is the DE in most instances. So, why not audible to the OSV from the git go and get the ball on the perimeter to start with? The transistion to the OSV, after having your QB master the two reads of the ISV, is a very simple thing in that he now onlys reads the EMOL on the play called side. But, in reality the one player who can really mess you up when running the ISV is the tackle who plays a straight up 4 tech, because now there is no definite read decision possible in the PSL by our QB, and he is forced into making a decision after the snap. If he is in a 5 tech in the PSL, it is an automatic give by your QB and if he is in a 4i, it becomes an automatic pull. All this baloney about a hard pinch from the 5 tech will ruin your play, does not hold water with me. It is my contention that if it does, you have the wrong dive back and my advice is get another one if you want to run the veer successfully. As Lou has stated Navy only runs the play at certain alignments that he mentioned, and he knows about Navy as he scouted them for his team this past season, but that is not my philosophy at all. To me, that is letting a defense dictate to you what you are going to run at any given point, and that is counterproductive to any good offense, no matter what it happens to be, IMO.

Coach Easton-TIGER ONE

Offensive tackle makes a gap call and blocks the B gap defender. The tight end/slotback blocks the inside linebacker to safety. The next defender past him is read and the defender past the read key is optioned. The corners are stalked.

Yes, you can do that as well. Just remember, safeties are the last line of defense and if they don't make the play it is six points!

Let's be more specific-- read 8 tech. or out.
Pitch key should be the next defender past him.

All else is accurate, Cory.

DO you do Point just on the OSV or for all optioins?

Warrior 777,

Sorry to not keep up to speed on the continued option discussion. My computer gave up the ghost and I am forced to using the library gear until I can replace it. Only get to check it one time a day now. At any rate, have reread the back posts and your getting straight info from most. The coach who agrees with me on the point method being much more expedient than the ride and decide has tried it and now knows for himself why I try to get option coaches everywhere to at least give it a try. We used it for all options for 20 years and never looked back to the ride and decide. The CORRECT READ FOR THE OSV IS SIMPLY THE LAST MAN ON THE LOS, NO MATTER WHO HE IS, BE IT A DE, A WALKED UP SS, OR WHOEVER AS LONG AS HE IS THE LAST MAN ON THE LOS! Sure was glad to hear that you made it to the big game for your state, learn from the loss and get 'em this year coach! Sincere thanks for the kind words for both Lou and I, much appreciated.

Coach Easton-TIGER ONE

Sure Coach, be glad to.

The point method is the simple act of keeping the QB's head and arms and the rest of his body always pointing downhill at his read man without the necessity of reaching back with his arms to mesh with the dive back. Here is an example of using it to run and ISV: QB takes his escape step, gathers his front leg to his back leg and drives down hill at the B gap. If he is to give it to the dive back he simply extends his arms straight at the read man as he meshes with the dive back who FULLY UNDERSTANDS THAT IF THE BALL IS STILL IN THE EXTENDED POSITION WHEN HE HITS THE HOLE IT IS HIS AND HE SIMPLY CLOSES DOWN ON THE BALL, NEVER REACHING FOR IT BUT SIMPLY CLOSING DOWN ON IT WITH HIS CRADLE AND THEN RUNS HIS DESIGNATED PATH. If it is to be a pull, the QB with arms extended toward his read man, simply pulls the ball back to his chest and gets up field to his next read while gently rocking the ball from side to side within the framework of his body, nothing exagerated at all.

What the point method offers over the traditional ride and decide is the fact that it a hard thing to teach a new QB to reach back across his body in an unnatural and uncomfortable position for the mesh with the dive back, while keeping his head in the opposite direction while making his read. In the point method a downhill surge by the QB is well directed by his body being in aligment, all parts pointed directly at his read man. As an Ex-QB who labored under the ride and decide, I will tell you without a doubt the point method far exceeds the traditional method in that is comfortable, natural, and will eliminate almost 100% of your fumbles made by a QB who puts a ball on a divebacks hip instead of in his cradle, etc .

I have posted a ton in the past 3 years here on the forum and if you will check the archives, I am sure you will find the answer to most of your questions about the method. Please feel free to ask me any questions you may have and i will do my best to anser them for you. You will also find testamonials from other coaches around the country who have tried the technique and are totally sold after reading the posts. Most of us like to stick with what we know, I know I do, but this was something I got from Carson Newman 20 years ago and have never looked back!

Coach Easton-TIGER ONE

Coaches,
A quick question about the FB's aiming point on OSV. Last year we told him to aim for the outside hip of the OT but I am thinking it would make more sense to tell him to aim for the "brown spot" of the OT. This would give the QB more room to make the read and should prevent the DE from getting to the mesh point. What do ya'll think?

Coach Easton:

Thanks for your reply. This forum actually gives me something to look forward to at work. Lots of great ideas both in the option scheme and with Coach Slack on throwing mechanics.

We all have different ideas on what and how techniques and schemes work. Most is based on one's personell and how that relates to innovation.

Your methods are certainly sound and I like the idea of the true zone FB give. A true MUST for all option teams. Takes some of the pressure off the QB with his reads.

I've coached reading a gap, 4i, 5 and area reading the stack.All this was 15 years ago. If the QB felt comfotable with it . we'd try it. Put a lot of pressure on the defense to be right.

Also, saw your pic and bio with Coach Slack's QB Academy. Sending my son to the New Jersey session in July.

Jerry - What were your favorite formations to run the option from out of the I? Did you try double tight very much?