Installing Today’s Hybrid Pistol Offense Run & Pass from Top to Bottom
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Is there any difference in the technique of a Center in Pass Pro? I heard Pat Hill (fresno state) once say that a center's technique is totally different. So, is it different vs. a weak shade, head up, strong shade, and LB? Look forward to your response!
Coach L
Success is peace of mind that is a direct result of self-satisfaction in knowing that you made the effort to become the best you are capable of becoming<BR> John Wooden
The Center's TECHNIQUE depends on where his HELP is coming from. IF Center is covered - you need to give him help (such as from an uncovered OG who is assigned a LBer that may not come). Giving him help on the PROPER side is important - that is where making the proper pass pro call is important.
This can be very involved depending on what type pro you use, & what type look you get. NFL & Major College QB's MAKE the call (not O-Linemen) because the call depends on the SAFETIES, & O-Linemen can't SEE the Safeties. For example - IF the S/S is inverted down to the right, the Center probably needs help to HIS LEFT!
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I agree with Bill but would like to add: WHEN YOU LOCATE A CENTER WHO CAN BASE WHEN HE IS COVERED, BY HIMSELF, AND NEGATES THE NECESSITY OF HAVING HELP FROM ANOTHER LINEMAN, THEN YOU HAVE FOUND YOURSELF A REAL CENTER! Another attribute I always looked for in a center was the ability, WHEN UNCOVERED, to not just bail but to wait to make a commitment to help out a team mate and not leave the middle vulnerable to a delayed Mike blitz. Also, was always impressed by a center who could peel back and crush a rusher!
Coach Easton- TIGER ONE
J.C. EASTON<BR>HEAD COACH<BR>GA TIGERS FOOTBALL<BR>PROFESSIONAL MINOR LEAGUE
Coach Mountjoy,
Thanks for the info you sent last week. I especially liked the zone technique reading - the footwork portions were great. The tight zone technique was helpful on a couple levels. There seems to be a variation between teams - some rip through on wide zone (like this reading) and others punch/work numbers - I suppose this depends on the angle of the back and the aiming point of the play. Got some useful stuff out of it. Thanks again.
Didn't mean to change the subject of the thread - back to pass protection.
The way we respond to adversity is a direct expression of our character.
Sorry...I guess I need to clarify my original question more. I guess I'm asking about technique in BOB protection?
If I'm a right handed center and I'm blocking a shade to the left...is there anything different as far a footwork is concerned?
I realize this is a very deep topic (which this board is AWESOME at covering) but what are maybe some general fundamentals for the Center? Is he different than a Guard or Tackle?
thanks coaches.
Coach L
PS- Coach Easton, you are right about a center who can block a nose by himself...those cats are hard to find.
Success is peace of mind that is a direct result of self-satisfaction in knowing that you made the effort to become the best you are capable of becoming<BR> John Wooden
This is what we do - don't know if it is right. Centers and Guards are treated basically the same. We want them to set solid - pretty much squared up and don't give ground. Like you said, there is a lot to the technique specifics. The only difference in footwork for me is that the Center might drop a little bit vs. a shade to gain an angle for a better blocking surface - so his first two steps will differ slightly from the guards and they will depend on the shade of the Nose. The steps will get him to the midline (or number depending on the help coming) of the defender.
The way we respond to adversity is a direct expression of our character.
Don't "BOB" both sides. Bob the callside & Base/Solid the backside). I know of VERY FEW Bob teams that use it to both sides, which you CAN'T do anyway in oneback sets.. Then - the Center gets help. We do NOT expect the Center to handle a Nose alone. As the great O-Line Coach, Jim Hanifan, says: "You seek double teams if possible in the running game, you must also get double teams if possible in the passing game".
I agree. The only time our center blocks alone is vs. a five man front in which all down lineman are known rushers. Even then, there are ways around it - like sliding and putting a back or TE on the weakest DE.
Anyway, for us we teach the Guards and Centers the same technique as far as body position, hand placement, and overall footwork.
The way we respond to adversity is a direct expression of our character.
We always get our Center initial help UNLESS he and BOTH Guards are covered (you can THEN help him with the FB if needed, OR, use "TURNBACK" protection.)
Post by Coach Campbell on Apr 16, 2007 21:20:17 GMT
If you ever get a dead headed nose on the center his footwork would be back with a one, two set as he gets help from his uncovered guard. Coach campbell
Success is peace of mind that is a direct result of self-satisfaction in knowing that you made the effort to become the best you are capable of becoming<BR> John Wooden
Yes - we do not retreat with the Center if he is covered.
If the shade is left - he kick slides to it & keeps his left eye on the shade's inside eye (& vice-versa if the shade is right). If the Nose is HEAD UP - vs MANY defenses the SAFETIES will tell you which way the Nose will charge to get to his PASS RUSH LANE (& consequently - which side he needs help to in the protection call)!
PASS PRO
1. BE AGGRESSIVE (on 3, 5 step drops). Step & strike like a boxer.
2. Shuffle & slide – don’t cross over. Stay flat footed (not on balls of feet). Be like a defensive basketball player.
3. Get set QUICK (snap up quick – snap hands up – snap butt under you). Keep your outside eye on his inside eye).
4. Jab step – get foot down – strike (come over foot) with power. Don’t come over both feet – keep one foot at home. Keep post foot – inside foot – up.
5. Step and strike on the rise – strike up (not out). Do not overextend (over-extension is the biggest problem in pass protection). Don’t bend at the waist. Don’t wind up on punch.
6. Balance and feet: Give ground grudgingly – stay low (“sit down”) –don’t overextend.
7. OT vs. edge rusher – first step shouldn’t be too deep, or turn your shoulders. Use two cones to get the proper first step: OT doesn’t step back or laterally. Short first step on an angle between the cones (below).
RT-C
--C
“THROUGH REPETITION YOU WILL ACHIEVE SUCCESS”
PS: Tecmobowl - if you contact me I have some pass pro stuff you may be interested in.
Now that everyone seems to agree that the correct way to block is to ALWAYS get your center help from an uncovered guard, I still stand by my statement posted above. I said that IF YOU HAVE AN OUTSTANDING CENTER WHO CAN BASE A NOSE ON HIS OWN, YOUR AHEAD OF THE GAME AS IT WILL FREE UP THE GUARD. Example of tihs advantage would be: Let's say that the nose is not the stud, but a tackle is. If the guard can step to him and help his teammate block the stud, the nose is handled by the center ALONE, you win that round, IMO. Of course, I ace the nose just as anyone else does, but when you have that SPECIAL CENTER, my theory has always been utilize his talents to the utmost. Just my opinion as always.
Coach Easton-TIGER ONE
J.C. EASTON<BR>HEAD COACH<BR>GA TIGERS FOOTBALL<BR>PROFESSIONAL MINOR LEAGUE
I hear what you are saying and would add that special players - no matter what position - allow unique changes to take place. Hopefully, we will all run across a couple now and then.
The way we respond to adversity is a direct expression of our character.
Where ANYONE'S help comes from depends on the defensive alignment. Normally the uncovered men seek to help the covered men. You shoud TRY to get as many double teams as possible in pass pro. Vs many 43 aligns we can get 2 double teams (on the DT's) & end up with 6 blocking 4!
Thank you coaches! This helps. Coach Mountjoy I sent you an email. Also, you stated above that the safeties will tell you where a head up nose will rush....could you explain? Thank you.
Coach L
Success is peace of mind that is a direct result of self-satisfaction in knowing that you made the effort to become the best you are capable of becoming<BR> John Wooden
1. SS down to right (Cover 3 look) - Nose comes left (pass rush lane) because OLB & DE on right are coming (Nose & DE come left) - (& vice-versa).
2. FS high to left & SS high to right (Cover 2 look) - Nose goes to the right (pass rush lane) because Will & DE are coming left (Nose & DE come right) - (& vice-versa).
QB makes all protection checks. we DO NOT check to ANOTHER protection - just check the protection "OPPOSITE"!
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SOME PRE SNAP: "INDICATORS" FOR QB:
PRE-SNAP COVERAGE READS
A) Scan the formation for uncovered receivers. If uncovered receivers – signal uncovered check.
B) Find the Weak Safety for PRE-SNAP read.
1. If the W/S is low – check other coverage keys for “Cover 0”.
2. If the W/S is high – check other coverage keys for “Cover 1” or “Cover 3”
3. If there are 2 safeties and they are both low – check other coverage keys for
“Cover 0”.
4. If there are 2 safeties and they are both high – check other coverage keys for
“Cover 2”, “Cover 2/Man”, or “Cover 4” (1/4’s).
5. If there are 2 safeties and they are staggered – check other coverage keys for
“Cover 1/Robber” or “Cover 3/Robber”.
NOTE: QB must be aware of the following actions from a well “disguised” secondary in the dropback passing game:
A) If there is 1 safety and he rolls down hard after the snap – HAVE A PLAN VS. PRESSURE!
B) If there are 2 safeties and both roll down hard after the snap – HAVE A PLAN VS. PRESSURE!
C) If the W/S or 2 safeties maintain their alignment after the snap – execute your progression reads with an awareness of where the weaknesses are in the coverage and which coverage defender we are attacking.
the center and guard technique are totally differnt for the reason of the space you have to work with at center for this reason your center must get depth withe kick step and not only depth he needs to be in perfect body postion on the block remeber the center is responsible for the depth of the pocket so being able to close his shoulders and being able to get depth on the snap will allow him to be able to take a shade very easy