Installing Today’s Hybrid Pistol Offense Run & Pass from Top to Bottom
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We are a zone team. We run zone from under center from one back and two back sets. Our head coach wants to expand our system to include zone read and zone option from shotgun - similar to many college teams around the country. We know the reads and such, my concern is the angle and footwork of the RB and QB. We align our RB at 7 1/2 yards and have him work a specific angle. How do we keep the same angle and timing from gun with the back at 5 or 5 1/2?? Ideas and suggestions?? Am I making more out of it than it is??
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Simple use the pistol formation back is still at 7 yards and reads are still the same as are path of the backs biggest thing is footwork will have to counter step for it to time out Qb's footwork is that of the midline option of flexbone teams.......for more information on these types of plays contact coach James Vint at Iowa Weslyan University of the NAIA
We put the QB at 5 yards and the RB at 6 yards depth and aligned in the B Gap. We use the same aiming point - outside leg of the playside guard. The footwork does change, however. We use this terminology with the running back - JAB, SHUFFLE, AND PUSH. We are going to take jab step to close width to the QB. We are going to take a short shuffle step for the timing of the snap and the mesh. Then, we are going to push toward our aiming point. We used to run zone from under center. We started running it out of the shotgun four years ago. We had a lot of trouble at first with the depth, alignment, and mesh. We found that having him at six yards allows the RB to downhill more. At five yards, our RB's had more trouble cutting back. If you like zone football, the zone read is great. You can account for the backside end. Also, you don't need an extra blocker, and it cuts out the guessing game with how the DE is going to play it.
Duke 1 - West Virginia does what you are talking about as well as anyone in the USA, & they feel the TEACHING (esp. the RB's) differs greatly froim under the Center to the Gun.
They have a GREAT DVD sereies on running it from the Gun. Don't know where to get it (I HAVE seen it tho)!
Contact their FB office in Morgantown W Va.
I think the best system if your running the zone blocking is have the backs align, QB at 4 yards and the RBs at 5 yards. Have them take an inside jab step on all veer plays. This helps the timing with the QB and also doesn't give away which veer play your running.
I know that the QB reads the BS DE on the Read Option in Shotgun, but specifically, what do you tell the QB to read on the DE to determine give or pull? Eyes, numbers on jersey, etc.
Rocky is absolutely right, just read the reaction of the DE to your backfield action. If you have your QB slide to the side of the diveback with him taking a jab step away, it will allow the QB a better read. Like Rocky said it he comes down the LOS the QB keeps and if he cross the LOS the QB gives the ball to the RB.
Mike tried this today vs No D and it looked good.so does everything though vs No D.thinking of combining it with GT counter trey blocking scheme to the zone side to get numbers.our QB's found the reads easier out of shotgun. when we combined jet motion fake with it found it tough to time mesh back's steps. does he just freeze while the jet fake is going on then cross mesh with the QB?
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thanks rocky.we tried that but he got off the track a little for the mesh so we just spun the hips that way and then turned back on track and it was better.
If you want something specific then I would suggest if you see the players numbers then he is coming up field and I would give the ball. If the QB cannot read the numbers because the defender is going down the LOS then do not give the ball and have him run it himself. It is the same rule we use when we run the veer and make our reads. Hope it helps.
This is probably the best offensive concept ive learned in the last year and its so simple.
when the QB receives the snap have him take two 6 inch steps in the direction of the hole the zone is being run to, the foot work is step replace step replace.
On the second replace step the QB needs to have made his decision, if he is not going to give the ball he turns the nose of the ball up telling the RB not to clamp down.
The advantage of this is many:
1. If its a high or low snap the footwork takes the ball to the hole so you can recover and still read.
2. The read is now longer so the read key has to really show his intentions, this footwork because it takes longer also gives the apperance of a give alot of the time, the read key will sometimes get ancy and go for the mesh.
3. It allows the defenses stunt to sort itself out. Alot of teams try and ppinch the emol down and scrape the backer, this gives the QB time to sort it out.
You will see tebow use this footwork on midline which is also a great play do this technique on out of the gun.
I think a good action would be to run a scissors with the two backs after the jet fake and you can still pull the backside tackle. We have run this and had good success. It looks like you are leading with the jet motion and then countering back to the opposite side.