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coach nick
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3 verts from trips Jul 30, 2007 4:54:02 GMT

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Post by coach nick on Jul 30, 2007 4:54:02 GMT

How do you align your secondary and lb's out of a 4 man front to regular open trips for 3 vertical routes? We man up back side and have done very well over the years. We get a lot of backside post and tailback wheel weak so we man up. This prevented us from rotating the safety to read #3 strong. We have safety and corner basically in deep 1/3's, though the safety has a lot of room in the middle to cover, the lb's slide so we have one in the flat and one going to hook/curl to deep out. It has worked, however in 7-7, we ran 3 verts to this and they couldn't stop it. So of course, I want to stop it. I told our guys the best way to defend pass is to get to the qb. Anyway, thanks for all your input. Nick

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3 verts from trips Jul 30, 2007 7:08:11 GMT

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Post by Oneback on Jul 30, 2007 7:08:11 GMT

Nick:

HOW you align depends on what you are playing. 4-3 or 4-4 (AKA 4-2-5)? What coverages?

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We saw primarily 4 verticals - which is more troublesome than 3 verticals. Empty teams run 5 verticals.

If you email me at: billmountjoy@yahoo.com - I can send you coverage sheets showing HOW most college & pro teams adjust the various coverages (Cov. 0, 1, 2, 2/Man, 3, & 4) to Doubles (2x2) AND, Trips (3x1). WE use these in setting our game plans.

Bill Mountjoy

Coach Pash Member Posts: 50	3 verts from trips Jul 30, 2007 9:15:43 GMT Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top Post by Coach Pash on Jul 30, 2007 9:15:43 GMT Coach, Could I please have a copy of your coverage sheets. I'm always looking to better my techniques and your information in the past has been very benificial. Thanks coach_pash@yahoo.com

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3 verts from trips Jul 30, 2007 9:23:37 GMT

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Post by TIGER ONE on Jul 30, 2007 9:23:37 GMT

Coach Nick,

Roll up and play hard man across the board (bump & Run) PROVIDED YOU HAVE THE PERSONNEL TO MAKE IT WORK! I have ran a 3 x 2 spread for 20 plus years, long before it became popular, and always found that hard man is the most effective against it. Teaching a receiver on how to get off the jam is the hardest thing he has to learn, why allow him free access into the pattern. That is how we defend against
against any spread. It puts our best against their best! I NEVER take my FS out of the middle of the field in the PSL and cover # 3 receiver trips side with a LB who will attempt to "out physical" him and run with him only when he can't complete his first assignment.

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Oneback Senior Member EMAIL: billmountjoy@yahoo.com Posts: 6,169	3 verts from trips Jul 30, 2007 11:54:24 GMT Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top Post by Oneback on Jul 30, 2007 11:54:24 GMT If 3 or 4 verticals is a problem - STRONGLY suggest Cover 4 (quarters) or Cover 1 (Man/Free)!
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3 verts from trips Jul 30, 2007 16:01:47 GMT

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Post by newguy on Jul 30, 2007 16:01:47 GMT

How do you play cover 3 vs. 4 vertical recievers, Coach I have heard re-route underneath but what else. Coach I will email you. I have got to see your adjustment. I send Coach Mountjoy and Coach Easton as man free and Quarters are both great against 4 vertical. We play read 2 which is basically quarters but a little tought in the flats all around good coverage.

coach nick Member Posts: 166	3 verts from trips Jul 30, 2007 16:10:37 GMT Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top Post by coach nick on Jul 30, 2007 16:10:37 GMT Coach Easton: Are you playing cover 1 with the safety free in the middle? Or is it straight man? Thanks

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3 verts from trips Jul 31, 2007 5:53:49 GMT

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Post by Coach Pash on Jul 31, 2007 5:53:49 GMT

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Originally posted by: Oneback
Nick:

HOW you align depends on what you are playing. 4-3 or 4-4 (AKA 4-2-5)? What coverages??

We saw primarily 4 verticals - which is more troublesome than 3 verticals. Empty teams run 5 verticals.

If you email me at: billmountjoy@yahoo.com - I can send you coverage sheets showing HOW most college & pro teams adjust the various coverages (Cov. 0, 1, 2, 2/Man, 3, & 4) to Doubles (2x2) AND, Trips (3x1). WE use these in setting our game plans.

Coach Mountjoy, Thanks for the quick response and information! It is greatly appreciated.

TIGER ONE Senior Member Posts: 6,423	3 verts from trips Jul 31, 2007 10:59:15 GMT Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top Post by TIGER ONE on Jul 31, 2007 10:59:15 GMT HEY NICK COVER#1 (MAN FREE) MOST OFTEN, BUT HAVE A SCHEME OR TWO WHERE HE IS RESPONSIBLE FOR A SPECIFIC RECEIVER, JUST TO GIVE THE OFFENSE ANOTHER REASON TO GUESS! Coach Easton-TIGER ONE
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3 verts from trips Jul 31, 2007 12:02:51 GMT

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Post by Oneback on Jul 31, 2007 12:02:51 GMT

Nick Saban made the statement at a clinic two years ago that in HIS opinion - Cover 1 is the best ALL-AROUND coverage in the game! It is CERTAINLY the best vs. a 3 level Vertical Stretch (which are "hot" on all levels of football from HS to Pro) in any of the THIRDS of the field! It is very good vs. 4 verticals, & adjusts easily to EVERYTHING!

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3 verts from trips Jul 31, 2007 19:21:34 GMT

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Post by CUI on Jul 31, 2007 19:21:34 GMT

Newguy
If you were going to stick strictly to cover 3 vs 4 verts for simplicity sake, I would have the CBs cheat more toward the inside receivers who are probably running down the hashes. These throws to the players on the hashes is shorter and the ball is in the air for a shorter time period. Some teams will show you by tendency who they are looking for on 4 verts. That will also be helpful as far as who to favor. I'd have them get plenty of depth so they could make all plays down hill and keep everything in front of them.
We run 4 verts as one of our 3 main concepts. 4 verts is nice in theory, but in real game situations it sometimes doesn't pan out quite as easily. If I was at a school where we didn't see it regularly, I wouldn't add another coverage just to defend it. I am not a cover 3 fan, but I have seen teams sit in it a lot and regularly. Cover 3 is a popular HS defense for a reason. Just my opinion.

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Post by coach nick on Jul 30, 2007 4:54:02 GMT

Post by Oneback on Jul 30, 2007 7:08:11 GMT

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Post by TIGER ONE on Jul 30, 2007 9:23:37 GMT

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Post by newguy on Jul 30, 2007 16:01:47 GMT

Post by coach nick on Jul 30, 2007 16:10:37 GMT

Post by Coach Pash on Jul 31, 2007 5:53:49 GMT

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