Installing Today’s Hybrid Pistol Offense Run & Pass from Top to Bottom
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WR splits are 1-2 ft. We are a 5-2 team that plays man and cover 2. I am thinking about keeping the front 7 and bringing a S over #1 to contain the run and force a pitch.
Lou - that is a sound D if they are in a regular double TE trips formation with WRs split out normally. This is different.
The two WRs have very tight splits to each other and the TE. They are hooking / sealing everyone inside. The QB is sprinting down the line looking for an opening to turn it up with the TB as pitch man.
Giving the SS 1/4 will create a soft edge to run in.
Thanks for the input. Keep it coming.
ANOTHER COACHING POINT I WOULD REALLY EMPHASIZE THIS WEEK IN PRACTICE IS PENETRATION FROM YOUR DL.! Any QB that trys to run PARALLEL down the line of scrimmage and does not have a line surge in front of him that allows him to attack downhill is asking for PENETRATION AND BEING BUBBLED BACK OFF THE LOS!!! If you can get your kids to accept this fact and really explode into the OL, they will soon be doing it on EVERY PLAY!!! IT IS KEY IN DEFENDING THE ISV/OSV AS IT FORCES THE QB BACK AWAY FROM HIS READ, THUS ALLOWING THE OPTION READ MAN TO GIVE THE QB THAT DREADED NEMISIS OF ALL OPTION QB'S, THE FUZZY READ!!! THE FUZZY READ RESULTS IN THE QB GUESSING MOST OF THE TIME AND YOU KNOW WHAT HAPPENS WHEN THAT TAKES PLACE. Just a suggestion as always.
Coach Easton-TIGER ONE
J.C. EASTON<BR>HEAD COACH<BR>GA TIGERS FOOTBALL<BR>PROFESSIONAL MINOR LEAGUE
I am a little worried about the DL getting penetration since they will run trap, but I think it is worth the risk.
Right now we are aligned, front weak to strong: 9,5,30,0,30,5,9, S tight on outside shoulder of #1 and playing the flat / contain on the run, CB 5 X 5 off #1 playing pitch vs option and deep 1/3 vs pass, FS in MOF playing over the top, back side corner man on the TE. Give me your thoughts on this defense. Again, the main threats are speed/lead option, trap, and throwing the ball.
Give me some more info on how you would align the secondary (depth especially) and what they would key.
I would align my CB and SS at 7 yards with my FS at 10 yards and my backside corner at 4-7 yards... my CB has outside leverage on #1 and SS has outside leverage on #2. Secondary keys uncovered lineman (OG) for run/pass read and then trips-side CB reads #1 to #2 and SS reads #2 to #1... their job is to keep the football and defender in front of them AT ALL COSTS! The ball must ALWAYS be kept INSIDE OF THEM AT ALL COSTS! These are the two biggest priorities in stopping offenses! I refer you to the Greg Schiano post for further reinforcement.
1. Stop the verticals at all costs--KEEP THE BALL/DEFENDER IN FRONT OF YOU AT ALL COSTS!
2. Turn the ball back inside--KEEP THE BALL/BALL CARRIER INSIDE OF YOU AT ALL COSTS!
Don't outcoach yourself--follow these two principles when defending trips!
Lou Cella
Head Varsity Football Coach
Greater Nanticoke Area High School (PA)
A 1/4 SAFETY IS QUICK RUN SUPPORT MAY BE CORRECT BUT HE STILL HAS TO COME UP AND MAKE THE PLAY. IF CUI DOESN'T HAVE A 9 FOR BACKSIDE CONTAIN THAT MEANS THAT THE RB IS COMING FULL BORE AND SHOULD FIND HIMSELF ONE ON ONE WITH THE SAFETY AND ANYTIME A RB FINDS HIMSELF ONE ON ONE WITH ANY DEFENDER ON THAT SIDE OF THE BALL, I LIKE OUR CHANCES. LOU MAINTAINS THAT THE WILL HAS BACK OUT TO HIS SIDE IN MAN COVERAGE AND I STILL SAY WE ARE GOING TO GET POSITIVE YARDAGE AGAINST THAT SCHEME. But, like we always end up by saying; Go with what you know.
I know I watch the Div-1 A and NFL teams CONSTANTLY GIVE UP BIG GAINERS BECAUSE OF PLAYING THEIR EMOLS IN EITHER A 6 OR A 7, AND TO ME THAT IS JUST PLAIN DUMB, WHEN ALL THEY HAVE TO DO IS ALIGN IN A 9 AND FORCE EVERYTHING INSIDE! Just my opinion as always. WITH THE SPEED THESE RB'S POSSESS TODAY THEY HAD BETTER WISE UP AND ALIGN A LITTLE WIDER FORCING THE INSIDE RUN AND NOT THE BOUNCE OUT FOR A BIG GAIN.
Coach Easton-TIGER ONE
J.C. EASTON<BR>HEAD COACH<BR>GA TIGERS FOOTBALL<BR>PROFESSIONAL MINOR LEAGUE
IF YOU LIVE BY THE TWO RULES YOU POSTED ABOUT KEEPING THE BALL INSIDE AND IN FRONT OF YOU
WHY WOULD YOU ALIGN IN A 6-7 AND NOT A 9 . WHY WOULD YOU PUT A LB ON A BONAFIDE 4.3 RECEIVER WITH CURL FLAT RESPONSIBILITY? WE ARE GOING TO WEAR HIM OUT! HOW ARE YOU GOING TO KEEP 5 VERTS FROM MY 3 X 2 IN FRONT OF YOU WITH YOUR SCHEME? I REALLY DON'T BELIEVE YOU WOULD WIN 5 PLAYS DURING THE COURSE OF THE GAME WITH THAT PLAN. HEY IT IS STILL TRIPS, NOT JUST THE FORMATION WE ARE DISCUSSING IN CUI'S POST.
Jerry
J.C. EASTON<BR>HEAD COACH<BR>GA TIGERS FOOTBALL<BR>PROFESSIONAL MINOR LEAGUE
I JUST RE-READ YOUR POST AND IT CLEARLY SAYS THAT YOU WOULD PLAY THE SAM IN A 9, WHICH I FULLY UNDERSTOOD. My question for CUI was why not widen out a bit on the WILL side too? Sorry for any confusion.
Coach Easton-TIGER ONE
J.C. EASTON<BR>HEAD COACH<BR>GA TIGERS FOOTBALL<BR>PROFESSIONAL MINOR LEAGUE
The REASON that QUARTER COVERAGE is so good for run support (IF you have two TOUGH Safeties) is that:
1. If you play Cover 2 - the WR's can oversplit the Corners to the point that they cannot give good initial run support. You DO get disruptioin on the WR's on passes.
2. If you play Cover 3 - teams run away from the S/S (and you have to play 1 on 1 on the WR vs. pass, & it leaves you weak vs. 4 verticals).
3. Cover 4 gives you good run support to BOTH sides (especially vs a 2 TE/2 WR set). Of course - the Safeties must be tough on initial force (if #2 blocks), AND, be able to cover #2 vertical. Taylor & Landry of the Redskins have that ability. You also get in & out on the WR if #2 does not vertical on passes.
All that being said - we don't really use any of the three, preferring to be in "Robber", Cover 1, or Cover 0 (if max blitz).
You need a plan for if they block your FS with one of the WRs. One is to blitz SLB or a CB and have the FS pick up his man. When doing so, it is prudent to have the nose slant weak or align in a 1 tech. to strengthen up the weak-side.
You also would want to have at least one change up where 9s take QB if they run option often.
Have to totally agree with Bill on this one, it appears that SPEED OPTION BACKSIDE could cause a lot of bleeding., so you may really want to address that issue when game planning. It appears that against a really good running QB from an option viewpoint, the FS has to really be able to play in order to take the QB as his responsibility most of the game if you plan to change up only occasionally with the assignments. A good veeer releasing OLM is going to occupy the Mike with a cutoff and that leaves the FS. Now, like I say, if the FS can really play you got a shot. Just my opinion as always.
Coach Easton-TIGER ONE
J.C. EASTON<BR>HEAD COACH<BR>GA TIGERS FOOTBALL<BR>PROFESSIONAL MINOR LEAGUE
Just noticed another thing. If they put the inside receiver (of the two receivers on the same side) in motion to the liz side, you would have to run in man with him to have a chance. When you do this you make it possible for the strong side TE and the back out to iso on the remainig DB on that side and he now has two men to try and cover and you know that is not going to work if they throw, or he will have to contend at best with a double team block if they run. Of course, if you have a real stud at TE and he can handle the Y end and not let him arc release, that would give you a fighting chance.
Coach Easton-TIGER ONE
J.C. EASTON<BR>HEAD COACH<BR>GA TIGERS FOOTBALL<BR>PROFESSIONAL MINOR LEAGUE
SCOTT, ANOTHER NEGATIVE OCCASION THAT COULD DEVELOP:
If they chose to just slide the left corner with the liz motion, that would set up perfectly and arc release by the backside TE to split the two deep defenders and he would be in single coverage from the FS. Or he could possibly find himself wide open if the FS had already rolled over to help with the two attackers of the strong side secondary. Most HS level FS's are not disciplined to leave the MOF only after the ball has been thrown! Just a thought.
Coach Easton-TIGER ONE
J.C. EASTON<BR>HEAD COACH<BR>GA TIGERS FOOTBALL<BR>PROFESSIONAL MINOR LEAGUE
The WLB walked up in a 7 tech. on the TE should be able to keep him off the MLB. Likewise, the 3 tech. should prevent the OG or OT from getting to him. They may try to pull the OG and use him as a lead/load blocker. That may require an adjustment. Also, if they align with trips into the boundry, you may send the WLB and have the FS pick up the weak TE.
quote: Originally posted by: TIGER ONE SCOTT, ANOTHER NEGATIVE OCCASION THAT COULD DEVELOP:
If they chose to just slide the left corner with the liz motion, that would set up perfectly and arc release by the backside TE to split the two deep defenders and he would be in single coverage from the FS. Or he could possibly find himself wide open if the FS had already rolled over to help with the two attackers of the strong side secondary. Most HS level FS's are not disciplined to leave the MOF only after the ball has been thrown! Just a thought.
Coach Easton-TIGER ONE
Thanks Coach Easton. The walked up SLB has the Y man to man. I should have noted that in my first post.
Have to totally agree with Bill on this one, it appears that SPEED OPTION BACKSIDE could cause a lot of bleeding., so you may really want to address that issue when game planning. It appears that against a really good running QB from an option viewpoint, the FS has to really be able to play in order to take the QB as his responsibility most of the game if you plan to change up only occasionally with the assignments. A good veeer releasing OLM is going to occupy the Mike with a cutoff and that leaves the FS. Now, like I say, if the FS can really play you got a shot. Just my opinion as always.
Coach Easton-TIGER ONE
Coach Easton,
Could they get away with veer release on speed option? If the OT tried to do that, you would have to reach the weak 3 tech or the QB would be caught for a loss (or pitch way too early) right?
You CAN play "MAN" vs option teams, BUT, it depends on the total structure of the defense.
Notre Dame's "EVEN MIRROR" defense played man vs both the Wishbone, & the Split Back Veer, & did it WELL! Their secret was the the man responsible for the PITCH did NOT have pass responsibility, & could not be "run off"!
That idea of the no pass responsibility as you explain it here, is basically the same thought pattern that sold me on the 4-2-5 when I found out that it did not matter if the corners got run off because you got the twin strong safties (TIGER BACKS) SITTING IN THERE having their 3 responsibilities on every play (contain on the sweep, pitch on the option, flats on the pass). What coach at ND was the innovator of the MIRROR DEFENSE?
Coach Easton-TIGER ONE
J.C. EASTON<BR>HEAD COACH<BR>GA TIGERS FOOTBALL<BR>PROFESSIONAL MINOR LEAGUE