How would you defend this tight trips formation with a 5-2

cui,

You may want to re-adddress your OUTSIDE CONTAIN to the BACKSIDE. Just a suggestion as always.

Coach Easton-TIGER ONE

CB aligns outside of #1 and cover 1/4

SS aligns outside of #2 and covers 1/4

Sam aligns in a 9-tech. and covers curl to flat

Mike is in regular alignment and covers hook to curl

Free Safety is in the middle of field and covers 1/4

Will is in regular alignment and has RB out of the backfield if the RB comes out the Will side. If not, blitz through B gap.

WCB aligns with leverage on #1 and has #1 man to man

There's no better way to do it out of an okie defense!

CUI,

That is what I would play is a 9 tech. Your diagram seems to indicate he is in a 6, probably just shifted a bit on you.

Coach Easton-TIGER ONE

I would not stray one bit from what I instructed.

I am a little worried about the DL getting penetration since they will run trap, but I think it is worth the risk.

Right now we are aligned, front weak to strong: 9,5,30,0,30,5,9, S tight on outside shoulder of #1 and playing the flat / contain on the run, CB 5 X 5 off #1 playing pitch vs option and deep 1/3 vs pass, FS in MOF playing over the top, back side corner man on the TE. Give me your thoughts on this defense. Again, the main threats are speed/lead option, trap, and throwing the ball.

Give me some more info on how you would align the secondary (depth especially) and what they would key.

Thanks

Bill, LOU:

A 1/4 SAFETY IS QUICK RUN SUPPORT MAY BE CORRECT BUT HE STILL HAS TO COME UP AND MAKE THE PLAY. IF CUI DOESN'T HAVE A 9 FOR BACKSIDE CONTAIN THAT MEANS THAT THE RB IS COMING FULL BORE AND SHOULD FIND HIMSELF ONE ON ONE WITH THE SAFETY AND ANYTIME A RB FINDS HIMSELF ONE ON ONE WITH ANY DEFENDER ON THAT SIDE OF THE BALL, I LIKE OUR CHANCES. LOU MAINTAINS THAT THE WILL HAS BACK OUT TO HIS SIDE IN MAN COVERAGE AND I STILL SAY WE ARE GOING TO GET POSITIVE YARDAGE AGAINST THAT SCHEME. But, like we always end up by saying; Go with what you know.

I know I watch the Div-1 A and NFL teams CONSTANTLY GIVE UP BIG GAINERS BECAUSE OF PLAYING THEIR EMOLS IN EITHER A 6 OR A 7, AND TO ME THAT IS JUST PLAIN DUMB, WHEN ALL THEY HAVE TO DO IS ALIGN IN A 9 AND FORCE EVERYTHING INSIDE! Just my opinion as always. WITH THE SPEED THESE RB'S POSSESS TODAY THEY HAD BETTER WISE UP AND ALIGN A LITTLE WIDER FORCING THE INSIDE RUN AND NOT THE BOUNCE OUT FOR A BIG GAIN.

Coach Easton-TIGER ONE

Jerry, of course I would align in a 9-tech... you must have misread the post.

The REASON that QUARTER COVERAGE is so good for run support (IF you have two TOUGH Safeties) is that:

1. If you play Cover 2 - the WR's can oversplit the Corners to the point that they cannot give good initial run support. You DO get disruptioin on the WR's on passes.

2. If you play Cover 3 - teams run away from the S/S (and you have to play 1 on 1 on the WR vs. pass, & it leaves you weak vs. 4 verticals).

3. Cover 4 gives you good run support to BOTH sides (especially vs a 2 TE/2 WR set). Of course - the Safeties must be tough on initial force (if #2 blocks), AND, be able to cover #2 vertical. Taylor & Landry of the Redskins have that ability. You also get in & out on the WR if #2 does not vertical on passes.

All that being said - we don't really use any of the three, preferring to be in "Robber", Cover 1, or Cover 0 (if max blitz).

Be VERY CAREFUL doing that vs "SPEED OPTION WEAKSIDE"!

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Nobody to cover back side TE Scott.

SCOTT, ANOTHER NEGATIVE OCCASION THAT COULD DEVELOP:

If they chose to just slide the left corner with the liz motion, that would set up perfectly and arc release by the backside TE to split the two deep defenders and he would be in single coverage from the FS. Or he could possibly find himself wide open if the FS had already rolled over to help with the two attackers of the strong side secondary. Most HS level FS's are not disciplined to leave the MOF only after the ball has been thrown! Just a thought.

Coach Easton-TIGER ONE

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Originally posted by: CUI
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Nobody to cover back side TE Scott.

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WLB has him man to man.

I would be curious to know how anyone else plays man vs. an option team (or if you do at all).

You CAN play "MAN" vs option teams, BUT, it depends on the total structure of the defense.

Notre Dame's "EVEN MIRROR" defense played man vs both the Wishbone, & the Split Back Veer, & did it WELL! Their secret was the the man responsible for the PITCH did NOT have pass responsibility, & could not be "run off"!

For EXAMPLE: Vs. "Split Back Veer" (or "I-BONE"):

--------------------O-----O
Z---------------------Q
---------------Y-O-O-C-O-O-----------X
-------------E-B---T-----T---E
---------------SS-----M-------B
-H---------------------F--------------H


H's = inside M/M on Z & X (6 to 7 yds deep).

S/S = man on TE (quick run support if he blocks) 5 1/2 yds deep.

F/S = man on HB his side (QB on option in alley to EITHER side) 6-7 yds deep at deepest.

DE's = on LOS at least a yard out. Pitch to QB

LB (ins. shoulder of TE or C gap) = has no pass responsibility - close down to mesh point & play from Dive to QB

LB on SE side = man on HB = Dive on option - filling INSIDE DE if HB dived.

DT's = head up on OG (DT on SE side in slight outside shade). Take Dive

MLB = Toes at heel depth of DT's. Dive (no pass responsibility)

If there are any questions - PHONE (804-740-4479). Sorry I do not have time to adjust it to many formations. It is GOOD vs Bone & Veer!