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Hello everyone! A new head coach has been chosen where I coach and we are moving from a 5/2 look to a 44 cover 3 and cover 1 team. I was just looking for any information that would help me from the switch to coaching inside backers in the 44. We will be a slant and angle team that has our outside backers set the edge and turn it back inside to their help. I have always believed in reading guards and would like some input on that as well in the 44. Our personel at this position is middle of the pack with both size and speed, but are tough and all around football players. Just looking for any advice. Thanks.
If you're OLB's are your contain men, then look at the 20-gap 44 systems. They are tougher to coach because there is quite a bit of reading that those LB's have to do. I coached LB's under this type of system, and we had them read thier near guard for their initial key (run to, run away, pass). We aligned them at 5y deep and on thier initial steps toward the LOS, they had to read thier near DE to see where the hole was being made--if the DE was bing influenced outside, the ILB filled, if DE is being collapsed down, the ILB must scrape off T. It takes tons of time to teach, but once the ILB's know what is going on, they become studs.
Ryan Kelly
Offensive Coordinator
Austin High School
Austin, MN
There is nothing that will show a man's true character like the 2 yard line.
Why have them do all that when all they have to do is read through the guards to the near back and discern where the ball is and where is the flow? Just curious.
Coach Easton-TIGER ONEl
J.C. EASTON<BR>HEAD COACH<BR>GA TIGERS FOOTBALL<BR>PROFESSIONAL MINOR LEAGUE
Post by frmrgriffinsafety on Mar 10, 2008 4:39:27 GMT
We run a 4-4 and it has evolved a bit over the past few years. However, last spring we purchased the DVDs of CW Post's Defense. They were tremendous and the run fits and reads that we picked up from there allowed our ILBs to play fast and attack excellently. The reads were simple and the kids did a great job of playing the system. This past season, we had a record setting defense on the Varsity level and our JV guys did very well with it as well. However, it is a read the backs system, which is different than what you said you were looking for. But, our system had the ILBs read the gaurds until this year and the new reads and fits worked out great. I would say to take a look at them if you can purchase a new set of DVDs. I could also give you a quick summary if you would like.
Defensive Back- Canisius College-4 yrs.
Assistant Coach - Bishop Grimes High School- 2 years
Assistant Coach - Cheektowaga Central High School- 5 years
"Failing to prepare is preparing to fail." -John Wooden
"I firmly believe that any many's finest hour is that moment when he has worked his heart out for a good cause and lies exhausted on the field of battle, victorious." - Vince Lombardi
It seems like a lot, but it works very well. I didn't like the defense at first, and still am not married to it, because I like to be much more attacking in my defense, but our DC who installed this was of the school bend but don't break, let the offense shoot themselves in the foot. The problem with other defenses that had been tried in the past was they were getting hurt by counters and option plays. By teaching the ILB's to read the Guards and then fit into what we called the RED SEA read, they never got caught up inside. These reads allowed them to take that initial step inside, but if the hole was not open there, why fit into it? Some of the Deleware Wing-T stuff and option would cause problems. This system allowed the kids to defend basically anything that they faced. The run defense was rarely an issue. Like I said, we as coaches needed to rep them like crazy early in the season, but as the season wore on, the LB's really started to read and flow very well. Now I grew up in a strict 44 stack system where our DE's were contain and our LB's blized like crazy. People never knew where we were coming from and how many of us were coming at a time. We played strict cover zero, maybe a little cover 1 in obvious passing situations, but mainly we pinned our ears back and attacked. As a coach, I've found I'm a little in between these two 44 philosophies. We were able to really allow our ILB's to attack the offensive point of attack and then find the ball--for the ones who did it right it cut down on those LB's standing up to find the ball that you see so often. I was amazed at how we really were not ever left out to dry, so to speak.
rk
Ryan Kelly
Offensive Coordinator
Austin High School
Austin, MN
There is nothing that will show a man's true character like the 2 yard line.
Appreciate your response. To my notion, and always has been, the primary job of the LB corps, is TO LOCATE THE BALL BEFORE DOING ANYTHING ELSE!!! Years ago when we used to coach defense by what offensive formations we were looking at, it would suffice for them to read the guards which I always coached were "the window to their soul". If the guards came straight ahead, here came power, iso, etc. and if the guards pulled there went the ball to the perimeter. BUT, AS SOON AS FALSE KEYING BECAME THE RAGE, ALL THAT CHANGED. Counter gap, or the counter trey as it is more popularly known, is a prime example of what I am trying to convey. NO MATTER WHAT SYSTEM YOU UTILIZE, IN MY OPINION, LOCATING THE BALL SHOULD ALWAYS BE THE PRIME REQUISITE.
Coach Easton-TIGER ONE
J.C. EASTON<BR>HEAD COACH<BR>GA TIGERS FOOTBALL<BR>PROFESSIONAL MINOR LEAGUE
Post by frmrgriffinsafety on Mar 10, 2008 9:39:19 GMT
I was just going through my stuff and remembered that I have CW Post's Defensive Playbook as well. It talks about the reads and everything else with their defense as well. If you're interested I could email that to you.
Defensive Back- Canisius College-4 yrs.
Assistant Coach - Bishop Grimes High School- 2 years
Assistant Coach - Cheektowaga Central High School- 5 years
"Failing to prepare is preparing to fail." -John Wooden
"I firmly believe that any many's finest hour is that moment when he has worked his heart out for a good cause and lies exhausted on the field of battle, victorious." - Vince Lombardi
Yes I would very much like to take a look at the playbook! Thanks. My e-mail is coach5115@yahoo.com, Thanks again, and thank you everyone for your post.
James Madison University won the Division 1-AA National Championship 2-3 years ago in their 44.
Their 10 technique ILB (on the 3 tech. side) reads the uncovered Center to the near back.
Their 30 technique ILB (on the 1 techniqie side) reads the Guard to the near back.
They also have a fine DVD set out on their defense. Contact the football office at JMU (Harrisonburg, Va.) to find out WHERE to order it!
PS: We run this defense (with "ROBBER" as out base coverage) & here are OUR ILB reads:
INSIDE LINEBACKERS (SAM & MIKE):
ALIGNMENT: Sam is in a 30 technique (straddle outside leg of OG) 4-5 yards deep. Mike is in a 30 technique (straddle outside leg of OG) 4-5 yards deep.
KEY: Flow, to Guards.
RUN RESPONSIBILITY: (Sam): 1. Flow To – stack C Gap, unless both backs are in A Gap. Flow Away – A Gap front side. (Mike): 1. Flow To: - B Gap. Flow away: - front side A Gap.
PASS RESPONSIBILITIES:
A. Sam: Read #3 (back). Back expands – Sam expands to look up #1. Back goes vertical – Sam must take him man to man. Back blocks – Sam works to front side hook zone.
B. Mike: Read #2 (back). Back expands – Mike expands to look up #1. Back goes vertical – Mike must take him man to man. Back blocks – Mike works straight back to hook.
fmr, can you send me a copy of the CW Post playbook. I am interested in learning more about this. I have always taught to read through the guards to nearback and sometimes read through tackles in our 4-3 scheme. Our mike will read both guards to flow and sometimes the center.
Post by frmrgriffinsafety on Mar 11, 2008 5:05:38 GMT
We've found it is a great way to run the 4-4. The initial read is on the backs, with the secondary read to the OL. The DVDs go more indepth than the playbook does. It tells how they give their LBs freedom to shoot open windows in the line if they see it. If they don't, they get to their gap responsibilities. "Go through open windows, scrape closed doors." I'm pretty sure that's how they put it. Anyway, it got our kids attacking and knowing exactly where to be and how to get there.
Defensive Back- Canisius College-4 yrs.
Assistant Coach - Bishop Grimes High School- 2 years
Assistant Coach - Cheektowaga Central High School- 5 years
"Failing to prepare is preparing to fail." -John Wooden
"I firmly believe that any many's finest hour is that moment when he has worked his heart out for a good cause and lies exhausted on the field of battle, victorious." - Vince Lombardi
I have yet to see anything from VaTech that I don't totally love. For some reason, Frank Beamer is better than maybe anyone I can think of at the "duh" factor. He seems to be great at simplifying things and just getting it done! His systems are very simple and to the point.
Tiger, I agree with your thoughts, but I can't think of a time where we ever were put out of position on counter plays--when the backers were correctly reading, but yes, false pulls would have been tough. Luckily for us, there was very little false guard pulls in our league. I was really astounded at how sound Fred's (our DC) system was. The problem I had with the system was much as you said, at times, the backers were a step slow because they were thinking too much...
Ryan Kelly
Offensive Coordinator
Austin High School
Austin, MN
There is nothing that will show a man's true character like the 2 yard line.
In our 4-4 reads we do not teach the ILB's gap control, clear/cloudy, fits etc. We stem and stunt our front so much it would be impossible for them to know their initial gap assignment. I agree with Coach Easton find the ball and attack inside-out, hence the name inside linebacker. If they make their read and find the ball the fits will take care of themselves.
From Our Playbook - Backer Read Progression
"Read Guards to Backs, Check Your Guard 1st, Then look to the Backs, If Guard is Pass Setting Your thoght process
is Draw/Screen/Contain/Pass, If your Guard Pulls, Attack the Pulling Guard on an Inside-Out angle as if to Tackle
Guard, as you attack pulling guard look to the Backs, If he Drive Blocks, Down Blocks or Double Teams you
have a Run Read, Inside Backers always attack Ball Carriers on an Inside-Out Angle, Do not Attack Past the Ball "
"Vs. Run Read - Attack Guard Pull, Inside Guard Pull is a Trap or Counter, Outside Guard Pull is a Sweep or Waggle,
If Guard Blocks Down Inside, Fill Hard Straight Ahead-Ball is Coming Right at You, If Guard Drive Blocks or
Double Team Blocks check Backs, If Guard and Entire Line Reach/Stretch Blocks play Outside Run"
"After getting initial read Check Backs and Find Ball, If Back is Coming Right at You, Attack Him, Take Him on at
the LOS, keep your outside arm free, If Back is Going Wide to Your side, scrape at an angle up to the LOS just outside
of the TE, Outside Backer must turn in Wide Play, Stay Inside-Out and Behind Ball Carrier, If Backs are going away,
Buzz Feet, Play Counter Action back first, once you see ball handed off, attack at an Angle, As an Inside Backer you
almost always attack at angle, and you always stay inside-out to the ball, If you read play as a Wide/Stretch/Sweep
away from you then you want to Lateral Run from your alignment, but once again staying behind the ball carrier"
"Vs. Pass Read - You Read a Pass Set from your guard and the backfield then the thought process is
Draw/Screen/Contain/Pass, Once you make Pass Read, Do not Move and check for Draw 1st,
Attack Ball carrier on Draw Immediately, Secondly, once Draw Threat is Gone, stay in same postion and check for
Screen, Read linemen and backs leaking to the Flat, Once you read Screen, Attack Screen Back Immediately, the Key is to beat the Linemen to the Spot, You can do this with a Quick Read, Once Draw Threat is gone and Screen Threat is
gone your next responsibility is Late Contain on the QB, Do not Start Pass Drop unitl QB sets his feet and you are
sure he is not sprinting or scrambling out of the pocket, at this point you can make a Pass Drop, You have already been checking QB, QB will have already determined which side he is throwing to, If QB is looking to your side get hips open and Sprint Back/Lateral Run at 45 as fast as you can, keep eyes on QB, Break on Ball, If QB is looking to opposite side,
then flip hips to that side but drop straight back, Sprint Back/Lateral Run Straight Back as fast as you can,
keep eyes on QB and Break on the Ball, As you get into your drop, at any time if QB breaks contain(moves outside of
the Tackle), Plant and Re-direct and take good angle to intersect QB for a short gain, He might gain 3 or 4 yards
but you must be there for late contain and give up a short gain at worst.