Craziest Offense Ive Ever Seen...HELP!

fyrehawg
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Craziest Offense Ive Ever Seen...HELP! Sept 6, 2008 17:44:34 GMT

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Post by fyrehawg on Sept 6, 2008 17:44:34 GMT

Played a game today coaching my youth league boys team. The opposing offense came out in a two tight formation with no quarterback....they lined 3 running backs about one yard behind the center. This is where it gets wierd. The three running backs would squat down with their rear ends maybe 3 inches off of the ground and lay their hands on the ground palm up.....very similar to fielding a ground ball but in a much lower squatting position.

The center would on silent count(no quarterback) just roll the ball backwards....

Each running back would do the exact same thing every time whether he had the ball or not....which ended up being a fake of some sort to an end...one would walk up the middle and another off tackle to either side......

The linemen would not fire off of the ball....they would simply stand up tall to hide the ball and bunch together and put their arms out strait and start walking forward pushing.....the ends would form a half circle back around the ball carrier..

they ran this play every single play of the entire game...

one thing i noticed is there was no set person designed to get the ball....it was just random wherever the ball rolled to.

The play resembled the old widely known kickoff return trick where everyone bunches up and then turns and runs faking a ball carry in all directions.

If you have any idea what this offense is called could you please let me know.

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Craziest Offense Ive Ever Seen...HELP! Sept 6, 2008 19:24:28 GMT

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Post by TIGER ONE on Sept 6, 2008 19:24:28 GMT

Yes, it is called the brain thrust of some youth coach who is not teaching his kids the rudiments of REAL football. Those kids will learn no real fundamentals with this baloney. Unless the players are 4-5 years old I don't think it is helping the kids at all.

Coach Easton-TIGER ONE

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fyrehawg
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Craziest Offense Ive Ever Seen...HELP! Sept 6, 2008 20:09:24 GMT

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Post by fyrehawg on Sept 6, 2008 20:09:24 GMT

I agree totally....The kids learned nothing today and it was a slap in the face at best. Disgrace to the game of football...

I still need to know what this is called ...i'd like to research this and attempt to have this banned in our local league..

Ive tried googling..rolled snap...etc and cant find a thing on it....

the opposing coach told me he paid 300 bucks for the system off of the internet.....go figure.

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Craziest Offense Ive Ever Seen...HELP! Sept 7, 2008 7:14:21 GMT

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Post by gridiron347 on Sept 7, 2008 7:14:21 GMT

very strange coach...we all agree on it being no good for the kids as they are learning nothing about football. I played in what we called an 'A' formation with dbl te and 3 backs. we ran it due to our qb having a broken collarbone and no back up ready. our center would direct snap to the back and linemen would block the way they are supposed to.

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Caveman Senior Member Posts: 258	Craziest Offense Ive Ever Seen...HELP! Sept 8, 2008 8:59:14 GMT Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top Post by Caveman on Sept 8, 2008 8:59:14 GMT Where is the eleventh player? You said double tight (7) and three backs (3). Is there a wide out but no QB?
	Scott Orndoff Varsity Assistant Williamsville East High School Williamsville, NY

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Craziest Offense Ive Ever Seen...HELP! Sept 8, 2008 9:51:25 GMT

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Post by greenough on Sept 8, 2008 9:51:25 GMT

I just hope I get to coach against them when they get into high school. If this was a feeder program for our team I'd be having a fit. I have no idea what you would call it, but we always prepare for option teams by practicing against the scout team with no football, that way everyone has to play their assignment, I guess that might work. Or you could just have your kids run thorugh the gaps. What a bunch of garbage.

Caveman Senior Member Posts: 258	Craziest Offense Ive Ever Seen...HELP! Sept 8, 2008 10:42:38 GMT Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top Post by Caveman on Sept 8, 2008 10:42:38 GMT When we play double-wing teams or other misdirection team, the scout O uses a tennis ball. Same principle.
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Craziest Offense Ive Ever Seen...HELP! Sept 8, 2008 12:42:36 GMT

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Post by Oneback on Sept 8, 2008 12:42:36 GMT

Vs that "thing" get into a GAP 8 Goal Line & have the front 8 penetrate low & hard. You have a GOOD LBer at MLB in the Gap-8 align. The two Corners covers the EMLOS!

PS: IF you did as Bear Bryant did at Alabama (Goal Line defenses) have the men penetrating all the gaps grab the LEGS of the adjacent offensive blockers - they would ALL fall flat on their face!!!!!!!

It seems in football today that the inmates are in control oif the lunatic asylum!

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Buice Member Posts: 56	Craziest Offense Ive Ever Seen...HELP! Sept 8, 2008 21:12:52 GMT Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top Post by Buice on Sept 8, 2008 21:12:52 GMT Just sounds like an example of a coach who wants to win a "championship" at the youth level rather than teach the guys how to be successful football players. Kind of depressing.

fyrehawg Junior Member Posts: 3	Craziest Offense Ive Ever Seen...HELP! Sept 8, 2008 23:13:04 GMT Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top Post by fyrehawg on Sept 8, 2008 23:13:04 GMT I finally found something really similar on youtube....I believe it is a variation of a Power T Wedge. Bunch of dookie at the 8-9 year old level.

just starting out
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Craziest Offense Ive Ever Seen...HELP! Sept 9, 2008 0:49:14 GMT

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Post by just starting out on Sept 9, 2008 0:49:14 GMT

Sounds like he is running a perverted version of Dave Cisar's Winning Youth Football program. I know you can buy everything from him for 280 bucks. I helped a youth team out that bought that system online and the backs squat down since some centers can't snap the ball.

Here is my blog I have started as I start down the coaching trail.
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Craziest Offense Ive Ever Seen...HELP! Sept 9, 2008 7:20:23 GMT

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Post by TIGER ONE on Sept 9, 2008 7:20:23 GMT

COACHES,

How do you guys get sucked into paying 300.00 for a bunch of absolute garbage when Coach Campbell and I offer books on REAL FOOTBALL OFFENSES AND DEFENSES that include how to install them for 30.00?
Sure, the younger the kids the more basic you want to keep it, but to pay 300.00 for stuff like this is ridiculous. Just my opinion as always.

Coach Easton-TIGER ONE

J.C. EASTON HEAD COACH GA TIGERS FOOTBALL PROFESSIONAL MINOR LEAGUE

Oneback Senior Member EMAIL: billmountjoy@yahoo.com Posts: 6,223	Craziest Offense Ive Ever Seen...HELP! Sept 9, 2008 13:20:46 GMT Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top Post by Oneback on Sept 9, 2008 13:20:46 GMT AGREE 100%!!!!!!!
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Craziest Offense Ive Ever Seen...HELP! Sept 13, 2008 22:03:08 GMT

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Post by WDeister on Sept 13, 2008 22:03:08 GMT

Reminds me of some of the crazy stuff that happened/happens to me as a Center...

A team that was full of short players (their D-Line barely made it up to my chest and I'm 6'2") they would go after our legs. We would just push them on their butts. It was awkward at first but after awhile we just got bored and started doing w/e since this strategy was a joke.

Same team used to bunch all their players and go on 'Ready'. They started every game off this way. As a D-Linemen and having suddenly 11 guys in your face is not something you're ever ready for even when you know it's coming. Though they never got more than 10 yards with it, it was a bit of a like 'Oh crap!' moment. I recall one time I some how made it all the way around the End as a DE and ripped the QB out from behind the pack and threw him 3 yards behind his teammate (all the stories I just told came from the same team including the one with the swiping at the legs).

I also recall another team that would have its Nose Guard swipe at the Ball as I snapped it (I guess he hoped he would catch the tip of the ball as I brought it to the QB). At Halftime my coach walked over to the other Head Coach and told him to knock off the crap. That was an LOL moment especially when they came out second half and didn't line a NG up the whole second half.

Also in regards to Centers not being able to snap the ball do you mean a long snap? If so I think that's a joke. I think it's a joke that it's not always the Center who is the longsnapper in the Pros... HOW CAN YOU NOT SNAP THE BALL WHEN ALL IT IS, IS AN EXTRA 3 ft MORE THAN A STANDARD SHOTGUN. Despicable... I was able to longsnap and look straight ahead at 8 years old... IDK maybe i'm gifted but I doubt it, sounds more like certain coaches don't spend the time to develop the art in his Centers. Anyways enough rambling.

Sounds like a stupid system designed to give the Coach a title in a league that means nothing for him and any real coach will see that this guy is just a fool. PEEWEE is for the Kids to learn football nothing else!

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Post by fyrehawg on Sept 6, 2008 17:44:34 GMT

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